where is Bal Thakre and Togadia now the so called leaders of hindus.Why they march to Jammu if they r true Hindus.Jammu Hindus r fighting for years on border with pakistan and jihadis within state but these leaders sit in a.c.rooms in delhi/mumbai and give statements from there only.The condition of Hindus today is because of these leaders.HGat off to jammuites.
RE:shameful
by kiainth on Aug 02, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
Ask Sonia to whom you people have voted in power and dont blame these leaders. Balthakare is doing good work in his own state. Where is Sonia ????
RE:shameful
by vanguard hinduism on Aug 02, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
Bal Thakre is Pseudo HINDU. He was debunked when his party Supported Congress Nominee Partiba Patil for the Presidential Election just because she is Marathi.Togadia had a nexus with Keshubhai Patel in recent conducted election to ensure narendrabhai get defeated. This Pseudo HINDUS been exposed
RE:shameful
by prashant on Aug 02, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
not bal thakare called balasaheb thakare he is in mumbai .now 88 years old .he is grt8 leader of hindu not togadiya .kyau dosaro ko kosa rahe ho apnene kya kiya hain india ke liy
RE:shameful
by Hemant on Aug 02, 2008 12:53 PM Permalink
there you are, ready to bite another hindu, at a drop of hat. In this forum, someone has asked Hindus to be united agaist evils. Can a unity of Hindus possible??. We are destined to be slaves. Once, Mughals, then British and now muslims...isn't it Mr. prashant??
The jihad against India's mulims towards hindus has accelerated within the last few decades. The media rarely mentions the desecration of Hindu religious sites and the constant intimidation of Hindus. While special concessions have been granted for Muslims in India, the governments of Pakistan and Bangladesh have long supported a policy, based on Islamic law, of religious discrimination against non-believers.
Muslims in India achieve political power by attaining majority status demographically; demanding special compensation, laws and conditions; and driving out non-Muslims. This in a way help muslims in India to expand there jihad network under the guise of government welfare program. The situation is alarming inspite of all civil and democratic right the Indian muslims have always secretly blended towards the notion of radical islam and making India a Islamic nation.
Indias history has been characterized by the ethnic cleansing of non-Muslims, frequent terrorist attacks, special concessions to Muslims and a tolerated bias against Hindus. I dont understand when our Hindus brother will react and retaliate. Wake up call for all those passive hindu who have callous attitude towards the expanding web of fanatic islam.
Dear readers if you have any facts regarding the person/groups as owners behind the important English Media of our country please reveal them.Let us discuss and expose the hypocrates and journalists who claim that they are "neutral,secular and independent"
RE:Media and political affiliations.
by vivek garg on Aug 02, 2008 12:20 PM Permalink
All Hindus must read and support " Daily Pioneer ' in print and web. It is only paper around which talks about Hindu concerns.
RE:Media and political affiliations.
by Senthil Kumar on Aug 02, 2008 12:23 PM Permalink
rajdeep sardesai is mosr secular criminal!! Hindus please spit on his face!!
RE:Media and political affiliations.
by krishna on Aug 02, 2008 12:28 PM Permalink
I am unable to open daily pioneer web page.Why so!I am in gulf.its says unable to open!Is it got do anything with javascript or ....., what could b the reason!Pls adive
Can anybody explain, why this kind of incidents happen, every time Congress is in rule in Jammu & Kashmir?
Till wehen, the ill informed Indian urban middle class get carried asway by the lies being spread by Pranoy Roy, to Shekhar Gupta to Vinod Mehta to Rajdeep Sardesai in the name of "Secularism"
A Hindu man who married a Muslim girl was beheaded after a kangaroo court ordered his 'execution' at a village in Murshidabad district of West Bengal.
The villagers did not allow the man's hapless wife to approach the police for a fortnight.
The police said today that the girl Munera Bibi from Lakshanpur village met and fell in love with Shailendra Prasad from Bihar while she was working as a maid servant in Mumbai. They got married two and half years ago and the girl is now the mother of a 10-month-old child.
Religion was never a problem for the couple until she came to her own village in the district on July 1 with her husband who concealed his religious identity under the name Munna Sheikh.
But soon the girl's father Ansaria Sheikh became suspicious of his son-in-law's religion on July 14 and reported this to village elders. A 'salishi' (kangaroo court) comprising 22 members summoned Prasad and discovered his true religious identity. He was awarded 'death sentence', sources said.
On July 17 the man's beheaded body was found in a gunny bag in a jute field but as there was no complaint, the police failed to identify the person, the sources said.
Ten days later, the girl, her mother and brother went to Behrampore police station and lodged a formal complaint after which the incident came to light.
RE:A Hindu Man Beheaded Because he Married a Muslims Girl. Where are our Pseudo Secular MEDIA?
by Sanjeev Singh on Aug 02, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
interestingly if it has happened with muslim guy all the news channel would have been beaming it- remember rizwan murder case...The double hyprocrisy of the english news chanels has been exposed in last few days - CNN IBN- Not willing to show the tapes ; the channle would have shown the tapes if some BJP leadres would have been guilty. But good thing is people across country has been able to see the unhidden agenda of these news channels - Reflection is -decline in thier viewership share -- NDTV sold lot of their satkes to be profitable; Medis is in complete mess and how media works is known to people. Thank you for bringing this case in limelight
RE:A Hindu Man Beheaded Because he Married a Muslims Girl. Where are our Pseudo Secular MEDIA?
by Rajesh kumar on Aug 02, 2008 12:25 PM Permalink
yes yes,,, enough is enough..... actually need to do something. I am just waiting for the chance. will screw all these buggers....
RE:A Hindu Man Beheaded Because he Married a Muslims Girl. Where are our Pseudo Secular MEDIA?
by Sun on Aug 02, 2008 12:17 PM Permalink
And the sickular commie govt will most probably sweep this issue under the carpet.
Its high time now that the Hindus from every part of India now rise up and show solidarity with the people of Jammu otherwise Hindus will be slave in their opwn country.
RE:wake up call for hindus
by Hemant on Aug 02, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
How can you think coward Hindus can get united, aren't they biting themselves. We have been slaves for thousands of years and ready to be slave for further tens of thousands of year in the name of sickulars
its unfortunate that like pol.parties our media ,electronic media in particular is concerned about the muslims only.they raise hue and cry when a single muslim is just arrested in gujarat,keep mum over afjal,relay breaking news whole day when a child is dead in a hindu ashram but inspite of knowing thebsituation in jammu province which is like a civil war situation children,women coming out against land trf.revocation even from the remotest village on their own they don't have time to cover this.Its simply because the agitation is by the Hindus.Shame on our electronic channel.a DOG GETS KILLED IN CROSS FIRING OUR MEDIA AND HUMAN RIGHT ACTIVISTS ARE OUT THERE IN STREETS,WHY THEY ARE SILENT OVER DOGRA'S SACRIFICE AND OTHER TWO Rajput youths from Samba.Hindu leaders of congress,pdp and n.c should atleast resign if they have any moeral value left.
RE:seculat govt.and media
by sudhir on Aug 02, 2008 12:15 PM Permalink
golden words by raghuvir, plz send me ur i.d.s people i wana send u pictures which show what exactly is happening in jammu
RE:seculat govt.and media
by recalcitrant on Aug 02, 2008 12:21 PM Permalink
Raghuvir
The agitators are not doing Gandhigiri. They are setting houses on fire. What do you expect Govt. to do? Allow them to repeat Godhra riots?
"Jammu, Aug 01: At least two rioters were killed and eight injured in police firing in Samba district on Friday where they set two houses of the members of Muslim community and 15 hutments of Gujjars ablaze. The condition of two of the injured is stated to be critical. The rioters also tried to attack the District Development Commissioner’s residence, attacked Peoples Democratic Party office at Gandhi Nagar and clashed with police outside Raj Bhavan here, officials and reports said. "
RE:seculat govt.and media
by Hemant on Aug 02, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
How many houses of Kashmiri Pandits have been burnt and how many of them are deplaced from their own land so far since 1947, dear recalcitrant??
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by recalcitrant on Aug 02, 2008 02:50 PM Permalink
Probably same as those killed in post Godhra riots. Seriously, how long do you want to cling on to history and fight?
We are entering a phase of no return. Someone avenges Babri Masjid demolition and then someone talks about Godhra carnage. Every event has a link to past. Unless we put history to rest, we will never be able to leave a healthy legacy to our future generation.
RE:seculat govt.and media
by Supersecualirist on Aug 02, 2008 04:46 PM Permalink
Recalcitrant, You mean to say that Godhra riots happened before the Kashmir genocide where lakhs of minority community members were driven out leaving all their belongings including houses and lands which were misappropriated by your cult people.
RE:seculat govt.and media
by sudhir on Aug 02, 2008 12:26 PM Permalink
baba ji only jammu people know the truth and that is first muslim people started the brawl by shouting pakistan zindaBAD WHERE IS THAT NEWS ????? WE THE LOCAL PEOPLE KNOW THE TRUTH...
RE:seculat govt.and media
by recalcitrant on Aug 02, 2008 02:45 PM Permalink
With your immense local knowledge, please enlighten me Mr. Sudhir.
Will you burn down houses if someone shouts slogans against India. I thought ours is a democracy and "Right to Speak" is a primary right of every citizen. I am not supporting those who shouted slogans against India, if what you said is true. But is that the compelling reason to start rioting?
If your logic is true, I should hold a AK56 and shoot everyone who is abusing Muslims on this forum just on speculation.
But ISLAM taught us to be patient during testing times. Truth will surface sooner or later but impulsive words/actions are un-doable.
RE:seculat govt.and media
by sanjay raina on Aug 02, 2008 12:38 PM Permalink
WHEN HINDUS ARE FIGHTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE OBSERVING THE WAYS WHICH WAY THEY ARE FIGHTING ARE THEY DOING GHANDHIRI OR THEY ARE ADOPTING CHANDERCHANFER WAYS WHEN MUSLIMS FOUGHT THEY WHERE NOT DOING GHANDHIRI & I AM SURE YOU MUST NOT BE AWARE OF THAT.
RE:RE:seculat govt.and media
by recalcitrant on Aug 02, 2008 02:57 PM Permalink
Sanjay
"CHANDERCHANFER" - new word for me. What does that mean?
Let the rule of land take its due course. I will be the first one to condemn any act of violence, irrespective of who initiated it. I have seen everyone on this forum hailing this rioting as an act of Hindu solidarity. Don't you think you should have opposed these acts?
If you are not prepared to fairly respond, please don't expect to do the same.
RE:seculat govt.and media
by Anuj Sharma on Aug 02, 2008 12:18 PM Permalink
True...We all should unite to fight this proxy war. Amarnath Shrine is special to us.In our own country we are feeling alinated - a big irony
People of Jammu are in dire straits and its very disturbing that no one neither the media nor government is taking corrective action to stop this issue. J&K goverment for last 6 decades have neglected the development and growth of Jammu and people of jammu are not only feeling neglected but also humilated because of the policies of the Government. If jammu as a city have developed its all because of the revenue it had generated from the pilgrims who come for the Vaishno Devi Shrine... where are the industries or goverment jobs for people of jammu. J&K administration is 87% muslim inhabitated. Administration in Jammu itself boosts 65% of muslims even though Jammu is a Hindu Dominated Province. Whats happening at present is not just a reaction to one issue but its the reaction of mass against the 60 yrs of deprivation and neglect which people of jammu have been subjected to.
RE:Disturbing Signs
by bashir nadeem on Aug 02, 2008 12:24 PM Permalink
It is unfortunate that we are a a part of Jammu.In 1947 not a single hindu was killed by Kasmiris ,we carried thousands of hindus to Jammu and on reaching Jammu people killed all coachman of kashmir.People of Kashmir agitated against land transfer but there was no harm to yatris .Due to Hartal no eatables were available in the market.We arranged food and shelter for them because we r not communals People of Jammu are targetting MUslims of Jammu who live in pathetic conditions.Jammu is a big hurdle to our developement.
RE:Disturbing Signs
by sudhir on Aug 02, 2008 12:27 PM Permalink
yA YA BASHIR, U PEOPLE THREW HINDUS OUT OF KSHMIR IN 90S HOW DO U FORGET THAT, AND JUST READ THE LOCAL NEWSPAPER U WILL REALIZE THAT THE LOCAL MUSLIM FEDERSTION OF JAMMU IS ALSO SUPPORTING AMARNATH SANGHARSH SAMITI.. FIRST SET UR FACTS RIGHT THEN TALK !!!!!
word secularism is a fashion for these people and so called jornalist like Rajdeep sardesai, Barkha Dutt etc. Their secularism is limited to social, physical, mental security of minorities. It is on expected lines that congress and Co. will toe this line for votes, but why these secular journalist shut their mouth when hindus are at the receiving end. They will have to face the wrath in future and happenings at Jammu are just a beginning and a mere shadow of the comming events. Hindu tolerance is being tested to the hilt and sooner rather than later revolt will begin then these so called secularists wil realize how harmful they had been to the people they speak for.
