RE:Do not allow fanatics to exploit religion!
by kamal juneja on Aug 02, 2008 06:12 PM Permalink
Why were you silent when fanatics were exploting religion in Valley.Can Hindus dare demons. in Paki against land alloted to Hindus . It can happen in our pseudosecular country lk us. Bravo Hindu Brothers of Jammu.
RE:RE:Do not allow fanatics to exploit religion!
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Do not spread RSS propaganda on this forum. Nobody is impressed!
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by K K on Aug 02, 2008 06:55 PM Permalink
This is about Hindus, not RSS. Secularism has failed in India. Now is the time to seriously debate about making India a Hindu country that will protect the interests of Hindus.
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 07:22 PM Permalink
Truth, that is why you and your friends were using choicest abuses against OBCs on Rediff Board. And it was only in the year 2008. May be your memory is too short to remember a few months old incident or you have selective insomnia.
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by Manish on Aug 02, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
Upper caster Hindu country !! But what I see is that it is the only country where people fight to be called backward...hindu country where pandits have category 'visthapit pandit' from their home land...someone gets Rs. 280 Crore per annum for Haj visit from gov budget but on other side they cant give a piece of land...!!
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
Manish, It is now really getting difficult for you to hide your hatred towards OBCs. It is almost on the surface now and if you were not now pretending to act on behalf of all Hindus, you would have started abusing OBCs straight away. That is your real face!
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by Manish on Aug 02, 2008 07:39 PM Permalink
Aoneall, I just don't understand whether people think about themselves before blaiming others...I think its you who started this thread by citing cast and religion here..I even didn't mention OBC in my message but not sure where did you read it..I do not have hatered with caste, but I feel bad the way our politicians use caste policy..and rather then bringing communities togather still trying to divide !!
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by Truth on Aug 02, 2008 06:43 PM Permalink
If nobody is going to be impressed...Then y u keep on replyeng buddy...
Where is the media who too the extra pride in advocating the cause of minorities or Goverment who unfairly practice vote bank politics at the cost of mojority? No one is willing to act strongly to address the Amarnath or Jammu issue. Goverment must act strongly to allot the land the amarnath shrine borad. Goverment cannot play with Hindu's sentiments to appease minorities forever.
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:02 PM Permalink
that is what RSS is agitating for and not for religion! Power game!
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Truth, That is your low understanding of the issue. Not everybody opposed to your communal thoughts, is a Muslim or Paksitani.
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by Truth on Aug 02, 2008 06:31 PM Permalink
Congrats man, U r the first porkistani to accept the truth...Keep it up..
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by Ras on Aug 02, 2008 09:04 PM Permalink
Idiot, Aoneall, Look at indian history...Most of the famous indian kings are from current backward castes. The great Chadragupta to Vijayanagar Kingdom are from current Kurmi-Yadav caste. These muslim invaders and british colonialists have used the caste to divide and rule hindus..
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by dheeraj on Aug 02, 2008 06:54 PM Permalink
That is the problem , any one supporting BJP is labelled Communal, but muslims who support paties like IUML ,MIM, NC ,PDP and christians who support parties like KC are labelled secular . It is this double sttandards which is driving people to support BJP
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by rick martin on Aug 03, 2008 08:37 AM Permalink
You Sick minded person. When you cannot compete sportlingly you crib.
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by Manish on Aug 02, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
and who was agitating when govenment approved land transfer order and there was agitation in kashmir on that..may be you cant give a group name coz there are so many !! HuJi, Indian Mujahideen, Laskar-e-taiba, al-quida, SIMI...and you think you have right to talk here !!
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by kamal juneja on Aug 02, 2008 06:15 PM Permalink
aoneall you want Hindus to keep silent every time in name of Secularism. Now It wont happen now Hindus will give tit for TAT. I urge all Hindus to boycott Kashmiri Products,let them die of Hunger.
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:38 PM Permalink
The problem is you know only hate and you represent only a small section of total Hindu population that is called upper caste. It is you who were spewing venom against OBCs on reservation issue long ago. Your hatred towards SC/ST is world known. You always condemn Christians. Who do you think you are? The answer is just less than 15 % of total Hindu population who are the direct beneficiary of caste system and your only goal is to perpetuate the hegemony of upper caste rule in India by dividing the population in the name of religion, caste, region etc. I just mentioned region because one of your comrades Mr. Thakare right now is busy in hate campaign against UPites and Biharis in Maharashtra.
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by Manish on Aug 02, 2008 07:28 PM Permalink
We are not spreading haterd, we are only spreading message of equality to everyone..a individual right to live as per his merit !! and why you all are so afraid of small section of 15% people that even for IIM/IIT you need law to get admission...and still if that is the case doesn't it challenge the effectiveness of reservation program as being merely the political agenda !!
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by Truth on Aug 02, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
Where r u man! Come on yeah.. This is year number 2008... Dont u feel shy about talking caste even now...
Caste system is a finished chapter...take some other issue to impress upon ur point..
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by jackson on Aug 02, 2008 08:15 PM Permalink
and you pakistani:how you are treating mujahirs ,shias,hindus,sikhs and christians ?how you have treated people of other religions and women during last 14 centuries.Your religion has killed hundreds of millions of people of other religion and enslaved them .How you are doing in sudan,bangladesh,pakistan,iraq to people of other religions and your own community-shias.don't fool others.OBC,SC/ST have been made so during this bllody muslim rule in India.Otherwise they were hindu kings before religion of peace came to india.
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by dheeraj on Aug 02, 2008 06:49 PM Permalink
The days of upper caste domination in BJP and RSS are long gone . The BJP has a number of OBC leaders and their chief ministers in Gujarat and and Madhya Pradesh are OBC . It is people like u who want to to divide Hindus along caste lines which is why Hindu voices are not heard > The RSS has always afirm stand against Untouchability . And post Mandal Backward classes are not exploited like u claim .
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
Truth, that is why you and your friends were using choicest abuses against OBCs on Rediff Board. And it was only in the year 2008. May be your memory is too short to remember a few months old incident or you have selective insomnia.
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by dheeraj on Aug 02, 2008 07:11 PM Permalink
And do u think OBC's have benefited from backward class leaders like Mulayam or Lalu . Biharis were suffering so much during Lalu Rule ,and Mulayam Singh gave us all a class on criminalisation .Mayawati is using Dalit identity to further her own intrests .Caste is basicaly a political weapon and if u Condemn Communalism , u have to condem Casteism too .
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:59 PM Permalink
Dheeraj, Showcasing few OBC or SC/ST leaders by BJP means nothing for their communities. After all, Congress showcased Babu Jagajivan Ram as Dalit leader for decades but did it do any good for Dalits? The answer is clear No. Similarly, hundreds of Modis or Kalyans or Umas mean nothing for OBCs till they are toeing RSS line.
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 07:18 PM Permalink
Dhreej, When ever different groups of society demanded their rights, the upper caste Hindus have always termed them casteist or anti nationals. You are doing the same thing, nothing new.
RE:Shame on Media and Indian Goverment
by dheeraj on Aug 02, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
aoneall I welcome caste as a political weapon, religion too . It is these factors that makes the evolution of Indian politics so unique . What would Indian Politics be without personalities like Laluji ,Mayawati,Narendra Modi ,Yedyurappa,Mulayam. I was telling u not to be too preachy. And iam not upper caste , why are u labelling all those who who speak of Hindu Unity as Upper Caste .
I am really really surprised to see that a real nationalistic place of India called "Jammu" is burning from last 14 days, demeaning for equal right at par with Kashmiris (who are treated as the top rated citizens of India by our beloved Congress) BUT unfortunately there is no national news about it, no media coverage at national level. Unbelievable Normal citizens including Children, Womens, senior citizens, everyone has started agitation against kashmiri hypocrisy, they decided to fought themselves for there nation “Bharat” and for Land provided to Shri Amarnath shrine board. This is no more a BJP vs Congress or NC vs PDP, it’s a fight of normal Jammu Dogra Hindu or Sikh in a Muslim majority sate of India. First time in last 60 years Jammuites have started to prove that J&K belongs to them also and not only to Kashmiries and they love there nation “Bharat” BUT No Support from Center, no support from our biased media and no support for other citizens. Widow of Martyr Kuldeep Dogra was ill-treated by cops and dogra’s dead body was dragged and alcohol was put on her body.
Be a pilgrim to Jammu and Kashmir and you will know the truth. I have lot so say but don’t want to put more time in typing
RE:Hey
by rick martin on Aug 03, 2008 08:47 AM Permalink
Direct action in reverse my Friend. It was invented by Great Secularist Jinnah in 1946 for mass murdering the Hindus of Calcutta to press the demand for Partition of India and Creation of Moselem Home land called Porkistan( Jihadistan). But dont worry. It is pay back time now and it will be implemented in reverse with perfection as no idiots like Bapu and Chachu are there. Got stupid oneall.
RE:Hey
by Truth on Aug 02, 2008 06:16 PM Permalink
doing suicide with bombs to kill other's may be legitimate in ur religion! But fortunately, We r not that much cruel...
RE:Hey
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:26 PM Permalink
what your religion? Do not act as if you speak for all Hindus and those who oppose you are not Hindus!
RE:RE:Hey
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:42 PM Permalink
Do not try to take false morale high ground. You tolerate people from other religions so far they are willing to remain a showcase of their religions in your party. It gives a propaganda tool in your hands to falsely show the world how tolerant RSS / BJP are of other religions. The moment they start exerting their identities and start demanding equal rights, they are declared anti nationals. This is your very old game and brainwashed Pracharaks of RSS are never tired of reciting it.
RE:Hey
by akshu solanki on Aug 02, 2008 06:33 PM Permalink
Remember, this is not fight of Hindus vs Muslims..we have Muslims in Jammu also who are supporting this agitation....this is an agitation for your Bharat and anti national speratists of Kashmir....then discriminations shown by state politics against Jammuties..... ...Please don't take it to communial shape
RE:Hey
by John Mathew on Aug 02, 2008 04:59 PM Permalink
Shutup U Bloody Fool. People like u are dividing india on the basis of religion. People like u shud be hanged till death.. What do u know what happen in J&K?? Listen Amarnath Yatra is going smoothly since 120 years... Kashmiri's didnt beat any Non muslims during their agitation, But jammu people are saying to muslims QUIt Jammu... You son of Devil all i can say....
RE:Hey
by akshu solanki on Aug 02, 2008 05:13 PM Permalink
Mr John, I am not communal neither what i said is communical, I am from J&K so don't tell me what is going in here...you know half truth and what is presented by biased media,,,,,,We are Dogras..a clan of gr8 warriors..we don't need the support from ppls like you.... I think you are from Kerala or somwhere down south and Christan by religion...imagine if the ppls from Other community will opress you from centuries what and how will u response?,,,, i am proud to have Sikh as my PM...Kalam as our x President....Fernadiz and other ministers from different relgions.....but i am not proud to appease the anti national sentiments shown by kashmiri sepratist.....Our nation is secular and will always we secular...but we will not tolerate any anti national activities....thats what we Jammuties are now showing to Kashmiries....you won't understand that my frnd..Indian..... and BTW the language your have used in your message...i can understand your nerve.......JAGO Indian JAGO....... Jammuites had awaken....so will other Indians also ONE day
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by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:35 PM Permalink
Solanki, You tolerate people from other religions so far they are willing to remain a showcase of their religions in your party. It gives a propaganda tool in your hands to falsely show the world how tolerant RSS / BJP are of other religions. The moment they start exerting their identities and start demanding equal rights, they are declared anti nationals. This is your very old game and brainwashed Pracharaks of RSS are never tired of reciting it.
RE:RE:Hey
by Truth on Aug 02, 2008 05:50 PM Permalink
Hi Friend! Dont write proudly about our religion! then moderator will mark it as abusing other religion.... Congress Govt is in certre, dont forget...
RE:Hey
by Kunal Gandotra on Aug 02, 2008 05:35 PM Permalink
Well said akshu solanki, its really time for nation to rise above religion and partisan politics. Hopefully all nationalist do rise.
RE:Hey
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
You tolerate people from other religions so far they are willing to remain a showcase of their religions in your party. It gives a propaganda tool in your hands to falsely show the world how tolerant RSS / BJP are of other religions. The moment they start exerting their identities and start demanding equal rights, they are declared anti nationals. This is your very old game and brainwashed Pracharaks of RSS are never tired of reciting it.
RE:RE:Hey
by akshu solanki on Aug 02, 2008 06:45 PM Permalink
are you also supporter of Kashmiri sepratists ? i am not understaning why are you relating this topic with BJP/RSS etc...this is not political dirven aggitation.....this is ppls movement....you have to be in Jammu to believe it....
RE:Hey
by aoneall on Aug 02, 2008 07:04 PM Permalink
Till today, RSS/BJP is claiming that Ram Mandir agitation was not a political issue but can any body, having tiniest of brain, can believe it? And who is the direct beneficiary of such agitations? Do I need to tell that it is BJP?
RE:Hey
by sunal mahajan on Aug 02, 2008 11:52 PM Permalink
SHUTT UP...U FORGET D INCIDENT..WHEN 5 PILGRIMS IN BANIHAL WERE BEATEN BY U...CLOTHES OF WOMEN WERE TORN,,--SHAME ON U....IT IS U WHO HAVE THROWN KASHMIRI HINDUS OUT OF THE VALLEY 20 YEARS AGO.. FOR UR KIND INFORMATION ALL MUSLIMS IN JAMMU ARE SUPPORTING AGITATION
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by rick martin on Aug 03, 2008 09:08 AM Permalink
Hi John are you from Jammu. If not then you cannot make such comment against the people from Jammu. It is only because of them that J&K is part of India. They have played great patriotic part in defending and expanding the boundaries of India (ladakh).And even ladakhis are happy if they are freed from Hegemonic Kashmiri (mean) Muslim. People of Jammu has taken indignities and discrimination in their stride just for national cause. Can you explain why when population of Jammu is greater than Kashmir valley when political power is with Muslims of valley. And Secularist Media has blacked out all the contribution of Jammunities Just as they have blacked out the reports of Agitation in Jammu. Why then they gave so much importance to Kashmiri Agitation that was reverse of this agitation. People of Jammu will no longer take any indignities and standing for their rights. Dont you thinks that christians have more places of worship and other trusts than the percentage (2%) if there population warrant. Also people of Jammu are better educated (75%), have given more talented personalities KL Saighal, Army Chiefs,CJI's, Martyr's, More Tolerent (35% are muslims), and NO TERRORISTS again Repeat NO TERRORISTS, are more loyal to INDIAS, Given their Blood for making Country and have no Grieveance against INDIA inspite of all the Discrimination. Let Mean Kashmiri Muslims compete with Jammu People on above traits and not always begs for more from Delhi and Islamabad.
