The speed with which IAEA has agreed India specific safegaurds agreement under pressure from US shows that some thing is hidden in the deal. Hope we are not loosing anything big for the sake of this unconfirmed nuclear energy.
RE:Something hidden
by Sharma on Aug 01, 2008 10:44 PM Permalink
Its realty that we will going to loose our money, land and time and will get only 3% electricity in 2025, its a big gamble or hidden agenda of US.
RE:Something hidden
by Suraj Singh on Aug 01, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Myth #14: The deal is not primarily about making money; it is about creating a new U.S. strategic relationship in south Asia.
Fact: The deal is primarily about making money. The main effect of the deal will be to pardon India – to remove it as a violator of international norms. After such a change in status, there will be no impediment to U.S. arms sales. This is where the real money is, not in nuclear reactors. U.S. exporters have mentioned selling as much as $1.4 billion worth of Boeing airliners, hundreds of F-16 or F/A-18 fighter jets, as well as maritime surveillance planes, advanced radar, helicopters, missile defense and other equipment. The Russian press has even complained that the nuclear deal is a ploy to squeeze Russia out of the Indian arms market.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha. Everyone laugh with me for a PM who is so careful about Nuclear deal that he even challanged lefts who r supporting congis in centre, but this third grade person has not even moved by the serial blasts in Banglore, Ahemedabad & daily invention of bombs in Surat. I haven't call him a man coz that word is to be used for real brave person & our PM is impotent & coward. He thrown the cheques on deadbodies, did the drama of vising victims in total security & now this shameless person has left for SAARC. Now there he will pass the paper of condenm to Pakistan & will repeat his same old tape that we have a proof that Pak is behind these attacks etc etc. & Paki PM will show the way of dustbin to that paper of condenm. Hats off, great this is happening year after years. India is great really?
RE:See the joke
by Suraj Singh on Aug 01, 2008 10:42 PM Permalink
Yes, Manmohan Singh is a good economist but actually it is on that front that this government must be attacked. Rather than gradually raise oil prices so that the effect of inflation is kept under check these bozos got into such a false sense of security that they thought the party will never end. Hence we get this one really horrible year and if the true price of oil gets reflected petrol would be selling at about 75 rupees a litre in India which would take inflation to over 20 percent possibly 22 or 23 percent. Now let us even say that why blame poor Singh for oil prices. Japan produces almost no oil. They are almost hundred percent dependent on oil imports. India at least produces about 30 percent of its oil. But Japan imports almost all its oil. Yet inflation this year in Japan is about 1 percent. It is about 3 percent in other countries in Europe which also import quite a lot of oil. So, certainly our two "esteemed" economists Singh and Chidambaram must take some blame on this count.
RE:See the joke
by Amit Yadav on Aug 01, 2008 10:22 PM Permalink
Sate government failed in Gujrat. Surat Commisinor Brar himself admitted involvement of locals in blast. Police and state govt failed in gujrat. They failed to detect 43 bombs in two VIP constinuency (20 Ahmedabad and 23 Surat).
I am wondering how terrorist plant bomb in CM constituency and PM in waiting costituency.
Twenty year from now Sardar Ji will be remembered as one of best PM.
Guy who have changed face of India for good, as finance minister in 90s and PM from 2004 - may be 2020.
If Indra would have started reforms in 80s, what Sardar ji did in 90s, today India would have been ahead of China.
I remember opposition raising hell for GATT and WTO in 90s. Local Industrilist raising hell for opening markets. Ultimatly today ManMohan is compared to China's Deng Xiaoping in 1978. Now this Nuclear deal will fuel India's growth in comming decades. Indeed one of the best PM.
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Suraj Singh on Aug 01, 2008 10:32 PM Permalink
Myth #14: The deal is not primarily about making money; it is about creating a new U.S. strategic relationship in south Asia.
Fact: The deal is primarily about making money. The main effect of the deal will be to pardon India – to remove it as a violator of international norms. After such a change in status, there will be no impediment to U.S. arms sales. This is where the real money is, not in nuclear reactors. U.S. exporters have mentioned selling as much as $1.4 billion worth of Boeing airliners, hundreds of F-16 or F/A-18 fighter jets, as well as maritime surveillance planes, advanced radar, helicopters, missile defense and other equipment. The Russian press has even complained that the nuclear deal is a ploy to squeeze Russia out of the Indian arms market.
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Suraj Singh on Aug 01, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
Myth #11: India needs more nuclear power to assure its energy future.
Fact: Nuclear power has been virtually insignificant in India’s energy mix in the past, and will be no more important in the future. India has been generating electricity with nuclear reactors for more than 40 years. Yet, reactors supply only 2% to 3% of its electricity today. India has not built more reactors because they have not turned out to be as safe, or as clean, or – most important – as economical as originally thought. Even if India were to achieve a 50% increase in nuclear power generation (which is unlikely) such a step would only increase India’s overall electricity output by one percent at most, and would only increase India’s overall energy output by a fraction of one percent. That is not a significant increase in the energy available to India and would not decrease India’s demand for oil and gas.
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Shiv Kumar Sehgal on Aug 01, 2008 10:40 PM Permalink
All based on mis-representation of facts. India's current reactors are not able to run more than at 50% capacity due to shortage of fuel.
And India is talking about 6-7 times(600-700%) if they manage to get 20,000 MW. Please do some research before putting some posts which have wrong facts or are propaganda material
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Mash on Aug 01, 2008 10:15 PM Permalink
Sabse bada hijada kaha jaayega history mein. See the way terrorists r challanging us & stiil he is calm & cool. Ishmit's death has hurted him but death of innocent victims has not moved a single line on his face. Shameless fellow. God & destiny will never forgive Manmohan for his impotency.
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Sanjay Chawala on Aug 01, 2008 10:30 PM Permalink
well, terrorists have always been challenging us. In fact, BJP was so careless that we had Godhra issue and subsequent riots, Kargil invasion etc. This guy is doing much better than its prior counterparts.
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by srinc on Aug 01, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
Good Response. People dont think straight sometimes..This discussion forum is to debate on N Deal and not sure why they always mix politics with this
RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by Sanjay Chawala on Aug 01, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
well, said. He is a true reformist and the best PM we ever had.
RE:RE:Sardar Ji will go down in History as one of best PM !!
by srinc on Aug 01, 2008 11:01 PM Permalink
How do you day he is selling India's pride to US? Is that mean you are more interested on conducting nuclear test than developing Indian economy.
RE:RE:Modi Done In by his Own Rivals Within BJP?
by Manchand on Aug 01, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
Gujarat and babri masjid are your only mantra. Agreed, it is bad. But,You people have been going such things from time immemorial all over the world. Temples are been razed to ground ground on daily basis in Pakistan. You people have taunting hindus and their practices all along. You people create problem for other even without any provocation. Killing and kidnaping are your way of life all over the world. But you unashamedly keep harping about Gijarat and babri. Will you keep a building whose name means murder, rape and killing?
RE:Modi Done In by his Own Rivals Within BJP?
by Manchand on Aug 01, 2008 09:56 PM Permalink
If you say BJP & RSS are communal, every muslim,irrespective of nationality is a communal. Look around and see.
RE:Modi Done In by his Own Rivals Within BJP?
by AADIL on Aug 01, 2008 10:30 PM Permalink
Bhaijaan, bade hi nashukre hain aap, kya hoga is mulk ka abhi tak to aap sabhi ye nahi jaante ki Gujrat ki haqeeqat kya hai? Aap belagam ilzam par ilzam lagaye jaa rahe hain. ham bhi is mulk ke bashinde hain aur ham is mulk ki behtari ke liye dua maangte hain par aap jaise jaheen jawan yadi ye nafrat baantne lage to fir kisi kaum ya majhab ka kya matlab rah jaayega. Yadi aap N-deal ko lekar kisi rajya ke hukmaran ko bewajah kahna shuru kar denge to ye aag har rajya main aabad hogi. AAp kaafi likh chuke par haqeeqat main sab ghalat hai, Khuda gawah hai ki aisa kuch bhi nahi hai aur jo aapne taqreer rakhi hai wo kisi jihadi se kamtar nahi. aap se gujarish hai is tarah ki afwah na failayen aur sukoon aur aman banaye rakhe. Raha mudda congress party ka to aap ko maloom nahi ki is party ne jitna is mulk ka nuksaan kiya hai uska andaza aapko nahi. aap sirf ek raaste par chal rahe hain aur usi ko haqeeqat maan baithe par ye party is mulk ke bawaare mein lagi hui hai aur kewal hukumat karne ke liye. RSS jo hindu dharm ko maanti hai lekin waqt padne par sabse pahle madad ko aage aati hai aur insaaniyat ka jajjba bhi hota hai, ise maine dekha aur mahsoos kiya hai. BJP jise congress communal kahti hai to ham kahate hai ki congress se jyada communal koi aur nahi ho sakta is mulk main. aaj ke haalaat mein jo bhi ho raha hai us se to aap waakif honge par ye jaante hain ki ye sab congress apne faayde ke liye kar rahi hai.
RE:unable to make out can any one help me?
by Truth again on Aug 01, 2008 09:32 PM Permalink
Sardars are jewels in crown of India. You are hindu today just becuase of sardars. Dont make fun of deads, no one knows when is time for them.
RE:unable to make out can any one help me?
by gokul dharmana on Aug 01, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
Don't be racist all Indians are jewels in India's crown though I agree that we shouldn't make fun of the dead
RE:unable to make out can any one help me?
by Truth again on Aug 01, 2008 09:38 PM Permalink
This is not being raciest..check the history...and read yourself how much sikhs had done for India...I am not sikh but I am proud of sikhs.. every body had contributed for India..but sikhs did this when it was needed most..dusing islam period
RE:Yes indeed, it is a great day for India
by Suraj Singh on Aug 01, 2008 10:34 PM Permalink
Myth #11: India needs more nuclear power to assure its energy future.
Fact: Nuclear power has been virtually insignificant in India’s energy mix in the past, and will be no more important in the future. India has been generating electricity with nuclear reactors for more than 40 years. Yet, reactors supply only 2% to 3% of its electricity today. India has not built more reactors because they have not turned out to be as safe, or as clean, or – most important – as economical as originally thought. Even if India were to achieve a 50% increase in nuclear power generation (which is unlikely) such a step would only increase India’s overall electricity output by one percent at most, and would only increase India’s overall energy output by a fraction of one percent. That is not a significant increase in the energy available to India and would not decrease India’s demand for oil and gas.
You showed the world that your political wisdom transcends petty boundaries and your vsion remains unblurred in the midst of a cacopony, betrayal and harangue. Now, let's reap the benefits of the deal and prove even your milder critics also wrong. Your unwavering commitment to build up a strong India will definitely win the hearts of millions who are not blind followers of any dogmas or political doctrines. SATYMEVA JAYATE
Once 1978 congress want FDI to enter in India...that time shitty illiterate politician opposed that...then again in 1991 MMS did that and bring FDI...now all Indians feel how much India changed after that...MMS is not a politician... He is a Thinker, Economist, Reformist who can see 50 years ahead which normal person can not see...Trust in him as we trusted him in 1991...At least trust this man not as a politician but as a good human being
RE:Hats off to MMS
by alert on Aug 01, 2008 09:15 PM Permalink
thank you on behalf of several right thinking people. We may have several differences of opinion the way congress politicians behave. But MMS is some one who is much beyond all these type of politicians. We are in the safe hands of MMS.
RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Partha Choudhury on Aug 01, 2008 10:11 PM Permalink
Completely agree. We should not mix congress as a political party and MMS. Two completely different aspects.
RE:Hats off to MMS
by Anuj Sharma on Aug 01, 2008 09:13 PM Permalink
Right. India has really changed a lot. Thanks to MMS and his "liberalization and Globalization", we have really been successful in making a money-oriented and unethical society in last 10-15 years. Really, hats off!!
RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by alert on Aug 01, 2008 09:19 PM Permalink
money-oriented society??? does not matter it is better than the past exploitation oriented,poverty oriented,illiteracy oriented, hindi language oriented,anit-computer ( communists supported)oriented society.
RE:RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Rupesh Pandit on Aug 01, 2008 09:22 PM Permalink
Ok then go and live in Village...its hard for you to follow your own words :)
RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Partha Choudhury on Aug 01, 2008 10:10 PM Permalink
Don't blame MMS for what individuals chose to do with the open market. But if not for MMS, Indian rupee would have gone lower than Zimbabwe currency!!! You don't like him because he did something for India instead of China?
RE:Hats off to MMS
by Mahesh on Aug 01, 2008 09:12 PM Permalink
Also add, will do anything to save his Chair, spineless to control terrorists, slave of Italian origin woman, remained a slave of Commies only for four and half years and not more, blind to Nandigram atrocities but has loud mouth to talk bs on Gujarat....
RE:Hats off to MMS
by Rupesh Pandit on Aug 01, 2008 09:19 PM Permalink
He is not Spineless...once war will start India economy will be down...WAR is not the only solution...It will created hatred as Middle-east develops for US...and SG born in Italy but for last 30 years she is in India and 15 years is enough for getting citizenship and one more thing once ur Sister got married then she will belongs to where her hubby belongs to...this is Indian culture...and do not harp on origin issue...The politicians of Indian Origin you also saw how much they are affective :) ...and for Nandigram why you are not thinking that if Violence is there then why TATA is still there why he is not moving from there and Invest in some other places inspite of making loss....Think Mahesh you will get the answer
RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Rupesh Pandit on Aug 01, 2008 09:21 PM Permalink
Is there any proof ...and FYK...they didnt lost by 1 vote...first do your homework then discuss on some topic...do not write anything crap for the sack of just writing
RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Loan Shark on Aug 01, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
why are you proud when you lose ... you are a proud loser.
mahesh, you must be someone who "proudly" came home to tell his parents that they wont have to buy him new books for the next year becasue he failed the grade. LOL
RE:RE:RE:Hats off to MMS
by Mahesh on Aug 01, 2008 09:30 PM Permalink
You are showing your true colours. You are an idiot and there is no point in discussing with you. You are in US doesn't mean you can have a decent debate.
