Lord Krishna was never of the view that he was a mere body or mind, but he was always in the universalcounciousness state. This is the state of GOD or ALLAH or Heavenly Father or Paramatma etc.
In this state, there is no individuality at all. GOD comes to the world in Human form, to teach his kids, which is the humanity, a lesson that is needed to correct the course of the direction in which Humanity is going in.
In case of Lord Krishna, if he has thousands of Wifes, this doesnot mean, those wives are actually in physical relation with Lord Krishna or the UniversalCounciousness or Paramatma. But, we should see it as a relation of the Individual with the GOD or ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD OR universal counciousness.
It depends on how better you understand the relation between humans, in order to understand the relation between the individual and GOD. If you see love as only a mere physical relation, then, you will see the love of devotees to the GOD as only mere physical, but if you see the love as being something that is beyond the material and mind level business, that we usually encounter, then you will see the Love of an individual towards GOD or Lord Krishna or Allah or Paramatma as being the ultimate purpose of ALL THE RELIGIONS.
RE:ALI: Your understanding of Lord Krishna is wrong
by adi piran on May 01, 2008 03:48 AM Permalink
Also Ali cannot forget the fact that Prophet Mohammad had married a 6 year old and started having sex with her starting from age 9. Another wife Safaiya, he married her after butchering her father, brother and other relatives. safiya being very good looking was spared from slaughter. In the civilized world such a marriage would be considered a rape. But Mohammad justified it with some verse from Quran when, dihiya Mohammad's sidekick wanted the girl. Another marriage was with Zainab wife of his adopted son, after getting him to divorce her. all these sacred acts(of perverted sexuality) Mohammad did after the age of 50. Finally a jewish woman whom he tortured poisoned him. he suffered many epileptic attacks before his slow, painful and horrible death which he desereved.
Please try to understand why some Hindus Hate and find the root cause of it. The root cause of it lies in the gross misuse of the human rights by majority of Muslim people in the past. YOU ACCEPT THE PROBLEM AND THEN TRY TO SOLVE IT, RATHER THAN HYPOCRITICALLY TRY TO CRY FOUL FOR EVERY ISOLATED INCIDENTS OF VIOLENCE AGAINST MUSLIMS.
OTHERWISE, YOU WILL NOT ACHIEVE ANYTHING IN THESE FORUMS OTHER THAN WASTING YOUR TIME.
RE:Dear ALI: Try to understand the root cause of the problem rather than crying FOUL
by deepak on May 01, 2008 03:37 AM Permalink
That is not true...the root cause of Islamic terrorism is Islam itself and what it stands for - the establishment of Islamic caliphate all over the world, and the conversion of all peoples to Islam and their world view.
RE:Dear ALI: Try to understand the root cause of the problem rather than crying FOUL
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 03:51 AM Permalink
What a funny attitude of the Islamic maniacs. Remembe what happened to Hitler? Remember the King of Japan? What happened to him? Remember what happened to Alexander?
Those who try to rule the world, will be ultimately crushed under the weight of their own.
If you want to rule the world, then, become close to GOD and free yourself from the clutches of the nature , life & death, diseases etc suffering and then you will be given control over the world. But till then, you are nothing but a slave in the hands of mother nature and its fiery and ruthless laws, that include hunger, death, diseases, pain, sorrow etc. No exceptions.
THIS IS A FACT. OF COURSE, I DONOT SUPPORT Modi, BUT I CANNOT AS WELL DENOUNCE HIM, SINCE HE IS JUST COMPULSED BY THE CIRCUMSTANCES JUST LIKE THE WAY IRAQUIS AND AL-QUAEDA ARE JUSTIFYING THEIR KILLING OF INNOCENTS IN THE NAME OF RELIGION.
RE:Indian poplation crosses 5 billion
by on May 01, 2008 02:31 AM Permalink
so many poor people so we will naxalites and poor mullah good for terrorists..
I see the cumpulsion of USA in labeling all as "terrorists" as they are a threat to its own corrupted govt that waged illegal wars starting from Vietnam to Iraq.
RE:RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:28 AM Permalink
Wait and watch until there is 3rd world war!
RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 02:57 AM Permalink
WHAT COMPULSION ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?
Is freeing people of Kuwait from the aggression of Iraq a compulsion or proactive demonstratin of leadership?
Is freeing of Afghanistan from the Clutches of Taliban, who are killing and abusing Women and non-muslims, like animals, a compulsion or a demonstration of Leadership?
Is freeing of Iraq from SADDAM, a dictator who is ruthless and insane and irresponsible for his own people, a compulsion or demonstration f leadership?
IT IS WAGING WAR IN IRAQ NOW TO KILL ALL THE MANIACS SO THAT THEY CAN NOT RAISE AGAINST HUMANITY OTHER TIME. IT IS PURELY DUE TO THE IRAQ AND AFGHANISTAN WARS, THAT INDIA IS NOW SEEING A LOT LOT LESS VIOLENCE IN Kashmir. Because, USA is drawing the attention of the terrorists.
I WOULD LIKE THE EMPOWERED AND ENLIGHTENED ONES OF THE WORLD TO TAKE ON THE MANIACS WHEREEVER THERE IS AN ABUSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS AT THE GROSS ROOT LEVEL. THIS SI WHAT USA IS DOING.
YOU may say that whatever USA does, is forhte sake of OIL. Just wait for another 5 years, and you will see the USA, BY THE GRACE OF ALLAH, getting free from the Foreign oil, and thus giving no chance to you like irresponsible people, to blame it in the name of OIL for every thing that it does.
RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by recalcitrant on May 01, 2008 04:17 AM Permalink
Sridhar
I agree with you on Kuwait occupation and to some extent Afghanistan attack. Mind you, the Afghans of Soviet occupation times were no different from the current Afghan generation. Taliban took over Govt. officially recently but it was in existence even during cold war time. US termed them as freedom fighters by then. Do you see any hypocricy here? "I am not bothered unless my house is on fire".
You were talking about freeing people from the "ruthless" Saddam was the only philanthropic agenda of US? During 12 years of punitive sanctions since 1991, 1.7 million Iraqis (most of them children) died. Almost 1 million Iraqis died since invasion in 2003 and 2 million displaced. Its left to you to decide how safe Iraq has been in the absence of "insane" dictator. Also let me remind you, Saddam was the same "beloved" president for US during 5 years of Iran & Iraq war.
As for your argument on oil goes, why do you think your so called "Leadership" nation hasn't acted on tyrranical regimes in Africa. Robert Mugabe (one of the worst dictators ever) hasn't attracted the genius of your "saviour" nation - guess what, its a coincidence, Zimbabwe isn't as oil rich as Iraq is.
BTW, what is US doing on Gross human rights violations in Palestine? I would really like to hear your views on Jewish settlements in Palestine.
RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 08:31 AM Permalink
Well. Jews are given only a small land in the whole of earth, and in that too, if they are not let to live in peace and prosperity, they will behave like this. Look at how the islamic people are behaving, inspite of having so much of land and population of their community. If muslims can behave such aggressively, then, imagine how more should the Jews should behave, and which is perfectly a normal thing.
RE:RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by recalcitrant on May 01, 2008 10:54 AM Permalink
Why was this "small land" given from Palestine without the consent of locals there. Who gave the right to West to "donate" this land from other's territory not from their own countries?What initally started as a small refugee inflow into Palestine has now made the locals refugees. Over 750,000 palestines were forced to shelter in refugee camps in 1948 and ever since Israeli settlements have displaced more than 3,000,000 palestines.
If some foreigner comes to your homeland, kicks you out of your house makes you a refugee in ur own place what would you do? You don't have sophisticated military power, missles or tanks - all you have is passion to get back your homeland. What do you call this - terrorism/freedom struggle?
BTW, UN Resolution has proposed to give 50% of the Palestenian land to Israel where Jews are still a minority in terms of population. Where is justice in this world?
RE:north-east are speratists, not jehadis, neither are naxalites
by sridhar gorantla on May 02, 2008 04:26 AM Permalink
You are asking on behalf of the palestinians and muslims for the land that they lost in Israel, but how come you donot see the lands and cultures that were destroyed by the Islamic maniacs in the last hundereds of years? They had desecrated the temples in India and its culture was robbed by way of forceful conversions,woman raped & married by force and converted, people were chopped for their opposition to the insane treatment by the Islamic maniacs in teh name of religion. WHO WILL ACCOUNT THESE ANIMALS FOR THEIR GROSS MISUSE OF HUMAN RIGHTS IN THE PAST. CAN YOU? BY THE WAY, I HAVE A SMALL QUESTION: WHY CANNOT THE ISLAMIC WORLD GIVE A SMALL PIECE OF LAND COMPARED TO WHAT IT HAD IN THE WORLD TO ISRAEL AND LET THE ISRAELIS & THE PALESTINES BE GIVEN SOME OF THE PLACE CARVED OUT OF THE COUTNRIES OF EGYPT,LEBANON & THIS CAN MAKE EVERYONE LIVE IN PEACE? WHEN A SMALL ISSUE HAPPENS AGAINST THE ISLAMIC WORLD, ALL MUSLIMS TRY TO SHOW SOLIDARITY TOWARDS FELLOW MUSLIMS IN THE NAME OF RELIGIOUS SOLIDARITY. HOW COME THE SAME ISLAMIC WORLD DOESNOT SHOW THE SOLIDARITY TO THE PALESTINIANS & ALSO GIVE A GOOD FRIENDSHIP HAND TO ONE OF THE WORLDS SMALLEST STATE, ISRAEL AND DEMOSTRATE ITS PEACE LOVING NATURE?
ITS ALL HYPOCRISY. WELL, INDIA & NATIVE HINDUS WERE ALREADY KICKED OUT OF THEIR LANDS & RULED BY THE MUSLIMS AND FORCED COVERSION TO ISLAM. BUT WE ARE STILL LIVING IN A VERY PEACEFUL MANNER WITH THE MUSLIMS TO A LARGE EXTENT. WHY CANNOT MUSLIMS SHOW THIS ATTITUDE TOWARDS JEWS?
This is a fact, no matter how much some people try to ignore it.
It is the islamic maniacs who even divided VAST india in to India, Pakistan and Bangladesh.
EVEN NOW, these maniacs are not letting us live in peace, and making disturbances. IS THIS WHAT ISLAM IS ALL ABOUT ? IS THIS WHAT THE LEVEL IS ISLAM THESE MANIACS KNOW ABOUT? IF SO, THESE ARE THE BIGGEST HYPOCRITES AND BIGGEST IDOLATORS AND BLASPHEMISTS ON EARTH.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:06 AM Permalink
factusa.org is a fact based site. Ali, why are u so afraid to know the truth of what has been committed by your people? U cry foul on Modi all the time?!
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:12 AM Permalink
Fact based site my foot, these days anyone can put up a site and write all the crap. I will worry about my people you worry about yours first and get your true identity first.
RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:17 AM Permalink
True ur foot. u were crying that Modi killed thousands of Mullahs! Where did u get that fake story from? Who is killing whom in Palestine. It's the mullahs finishing off Jews. In Iraq ur own people r fighting with each other and dying.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:20 AM Permalink
Modi killed thousands of innocent Muslims - thats a fact and will remain a fact! Go to Gujarat to see the proof or maybe watch tv where the killers confessed.
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:21 AM Permalink
Fact my foot. All false propaganda by Islamists.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by deepak on May 01, 2008 03:39 AM Permalink
Every single day Muslims are killed by Muslims in Pakistan...Modi did nothign rather the people of Gujrat pushed to the limit by Islamic jihadists reacted one day...which is sad...the Pakistan army earlier had killed millions of Hindus in E Pakistan..an entire army killing unarmed innocent people..only Islam is capable of such savagery.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:55 AM Permalink
What % of muslims out of the total population do you think are taking part in these violent activites? Do not tie politicial and social issues under the umbrella of terrorism. Had Muslims been involved in disrupting the olympics torch just like the tibetians are doign they would have been immediately labeled terrorists. But when Buddists resort to violence no more dare to call them terrorists!
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Brave Boy on May 01, 2008 02:31 AM Permalink
kaune se tibbeti ne kisi ko maar diyaa.... what you are talking man....if you call tibbeti r terrorist then no one can help.
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:09 AM Permalink
Muslims have killed 100s of millions all over the world during invasion and conversion. Muslim suicide-bombers kill civilians in some corner of the world almost daily! How many have been killed by Tibetans to be labeled terrorists?
RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:10 AM Permalink
How convienetely you forget about what's happening in Sri Lanka a Hindu nation? How can you forget the "Christian crusades"? Also the countless of Mulsims the Hindu fanatics killed in the riots till date
RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:15 AM Permalink
First of all, it's a waste to talk to someone who follows a pedo. Second of all Srilanka is not a Hindu Nation. Third of all, u people only understand the language of fire and bombs. So, the world shud teach u a lesson in the 3rd world war. US is leading the way!
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:17 AM Permalink
Before you abuse Muslim prophet, please do some homework on your "Lord Krishna" and what he was doing with thousands of wives and absuing young girls..
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:19 AM Permalink
I don't follow any religion. But u follow a pedo. That's the difference. u cannot pinch me with Lord Krishna's statement :).
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:09 AM Permalink
That's exactly the bias I was talking about. You do it its an genuine issue others do it its a terror activity. And of all the people a tamilan calling Muslims who practise Abrahmic faith as Satan - LOL YOU MUST BE KIDDING ME. stop kiiling the unborn girls first in Tamil Nadu a practise that Muslims stopped 1400 years ago. Now get back and pray to Jayalaitha
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Brave Boy on May 01, 2008 02:27 AM Permalink
abey bakar chooo..d band bho..sdi ke teri bakwaas karne so tu achhaa nahin ho jaygaaa
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:48 AM Permalink
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST by snpost on May 01, 2008 02:39 AM | Hide message I am telling the truth - I have actually read and analyse the koran, instead of reading it by rot? Who practice honour killing, is it Tamils? For your information we do not kill baby girls here. And do not compare satan worshipers with hindus or christian.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by kd on May 01, 2008 08:51 AM Permalink
Yep they stopped killing them so that they can molest them as they grow. First acknowledge the mass murders rapes and demolition of humanity done by the invading islam and acknowledge that this attitude is getting carried over into the present. I agree may be now there lesser of the terrorist but it has its roots in the past. Repent for all the rapes and murders and embrace a new future of peace. Dont think any God will condone all the rapes and and murders commited for 1000 years.
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:15 AM Permalink
First of all, it's a waste to talk to someone who follows a pedo. Second of all Srilanka is not a Hindu Nation. Third of all, u people only understand the language of fire and bombs. So, the world shud teach u a lesson in the 3rd world war. US is leading the way!
RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:18 AM Permalink
Before you abuse Muslim prophet, please do some homework on your "Lord Krishna" and what he was doing with thousands of wives and absuing young girls..
RE:RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:20 AM Permalink
I don't follow any religion. But u follow a pedo. That's the difference. u cannot pinch me with Lord Krishna's statement :).
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:56 AM Permalink
You get paid to market these sites? you previous 20 posting is all the same promoting a hate based site.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by on May 01, 2008 02:32 AM Permalink
Yes we hate barabarism. Yes we hate barabarism. Yes we hate barabarism. Yes we hate barabarism.
RE:RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:05 AM Permalink
factusa.org is a fact based site. Why are u so afraid to know the truth of what has been committed by your people? U cry foul on Modi all the time?!
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Ali on May 01, 2008 02:14 AM Permalink
Fact based site my foot, these days anyone can put up a site and write all the crap
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by Julius on May 01, 2008 02:23 AM Permalink
True ur foot. u were crying that Modi killed thousands of Mullahs! Where did u get that fake story from? Who is killing whom in Palestine. It's the mullahs finishing off Jews. In Iraq ur own people r fighting with each other and dying.
RE:INDIA HAD SUFFERED THE BIGGEST ABUSE OF THE ISLAMIC MANIACS IN ITS PAST
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 02:41 AM Permalink
SHOULD WE ALSO THINK THAT YOU ARE ALSO GETTTING PAID FOR POSTING ON THIS FORUM?
US report is obviously favoured towards them, those who are with Bush & Co and whose who aren't. Here are some glaring issues with this report:
US accuses Iran of meddling in Iraq - look who is talking...LOL. No mention of China and subversion of democracy. No mention of Israel killing the palestenians and stealing thier land.
The biggest of all the weapons being used in Afghan and borders of Pakistan were all US supplied to the militia during Soviet regime, its just coming back to bite them..
RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 01:42 AM Permalink
ALI: It is the work of some of the Islamic maniacs that is turning the world into a mess. What was the reason for muslims in J&K to take up arms against India?
How long should we accept this insane behavior of the Islamic maniacs?
Why do you not see these maniacs, while you denounce Modi, Advani etc for the small isolated incidents?
RE:RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:43 AM Permalink
Why do you assume that all Muslims support what's happening in Kashmir? Why am I repsonsible for the actions of the fanatics?
RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by sridhar gorantla on May 01, 2008 01:50 AM Permalink
But why are you supporting the actions of the Militants done in Kashmir and in India? When you condemn this report, be it generated by US, still this is a fact and condemning this means, you are supporting the militants.
WHO SAID THAT ALL MUSLIMS ARE BAD. I DONOT THINK I SAID THIS. THERE ARE SOME MUSLIMS WHO ARE TRULY ENLIGHTENED ONES AND WHO KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE RELIGION AND GOD AND HAVE NO ATTACHMENT TO THE RELIGION.
RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by prakash on May 01, 2008 01:40 AM Permalink
ali, why you are worrying abt iraquis,palestinian , when your own people , indians , i mean hindus are slaughtered in thousand every year in al-jihad by your muslim brethern
RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:42 AM Permalink
What about the Muslims - let me correct that Indian muslims being killed by the Hindu fanatics! I am not worried about anyone in particualr but was pointing out the things that stand out in this report.
RE:Its all a tamasha! Rubbish report
by prakash on May 01, 2008 01:44 AM Permalink
where!! IS LASHAR E TOIBA ARE HINDU , NOPE, is hizbul mujahideen , nope , jaish a mohammed nope ,HUJI are hindu, nope i can name another 100 organizations, all well armed with ak's...
RE:india and terrrorism
by Julius on May 01, 2008 01:07 AM Permalink
The whole world knows which p1gs group are eating this world like termites. All that Ped0M0 taught his group was to r@pe and p1under! Ev1ls of humanity!
RE:india and terrrorism
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:59 AM Permalink
easy - before you point fingers at Muslims go read your holy books Mahabharat and Ramayana the terror manuals. That's where terrorism started from.
RE:india and terrrorism
by Om on May 01, 2008 01:19 AM Permalink
I agree to you bhudwe, let me correct you Indian politicians are corrupted and filthy like you scum, when they can't hang afzal guru, and registering case against officers those who killed Sohrabudin. India is definitely a county for terrorists.
RE:india and terrrorism
by Ali on May 01, 2008 01:26 AM Permalink
Go just dont get it - do you? Who are you to say whether Sohrabuddin was innocent or guilty? What right did the policemen have in killing him? What about the Monster Modi who killed 2000 people?
'The Indian court system was slow, laborious, and prone to corruption. Terrorism trials can take years to complete. Many of India's local police forces were poorly staffed, lacked training, and were ill-equipped to combat terrorism effectively'
THIS SUMS IT UP. This is the malady affecting the nation on all fronts. TOTAL LAWLESSNESS IN THE COUNTRY. The impunity with which the politicans, the rich, and the well connected flout all the rules and go scot free. Citizens are apathetic to this.
We are not going anywhere to prosperity any time soon.
