The assumption that Lingayat Brahmin vote will win majority for the BJP is a mere fallacy. (The Brahmin vote is miniscule in the state).
The JD(S) has already largely perceived to have collapsed and all other communities may graviate towards the Congress since the JD(S) is increasingly seen as a loser. This second scenaraio is already visibly evident. It must be noted that Vokaligas and Muslims tend to switch from JD(S) and Congress and back again very freqently.
Vicky's analysis of why SM Krishna is not standing or why Congress is not announcing its CM candidate is based on the later scenario - Congress is trying to be a magnet for all castes and does not want to upset caste equations - very shrewd strategy.
So what evidence is available of a Lingayat-non-Lingayat caste polarization has taken place. The BJP boasted that they had a 15 day campaign lead over the Congress. Now that they hit the campaign trail, they have realized that the masses have very little enthusiasm for them.
RE:Tactical Voting
by rama on Apr 21, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
yes..congress lost dalit vote to bsp !! lingayat vote to bjp brahmin vote to bjp vokkaliga votes to jd(s) idiga vote to sp other lower castes like shetty's naidus,reddy,bunts vote to again bjp st vote to bjp bcoz of vanavasi kalyan work's nayaka vote to various kannada parties
minority vote will be split by jd(s) and congress the only community that is going to support congress in coming election is kuruba's
congress is all set to be wiped out it seems with too much dissidence also !!!
RE:India must have reservations till 85% of all registered marriages are inter-caste.
by Ram Sharma on Apr 21, 2008 08:30 PM Permalink
U r wrong. Corrupt people will not serve anyone, they serve only theselves. So u must choose honest people, even if they do not belong to yr caste. Otherwise put some honest person of yr caste for election.
But forget caste and religion in this age of sceince.
Both BJP and congress have 30 percent vote share. BJP announce list much in advance. Except few places there are no rebels and BJP candidates are campaiging for 2 weeks now. Congress is affected with rebels everywhere. Game, Set, Match to BJP. ScoreCard BJP - 140 - 150
RE:K'taka Congress: Revolt over tickets continues
by renuka radhya on Apr 21, 2008 07:35 PM Permalink
you can't asses result right now.it is not gujrath to took bjp such position.people of karnakata think twice while voting.
Karnataka is ill-famous for its Monkey Brand Politicians.You never know who is in which party as these bunch of crooks/jokers keep changing their loyalty every second day. It is politics of convenience.Just because they did not get ticket for the upcoming election, they have started calling names at each other.A "Honest, Obedient Party worker" till yesterday vows to ensure Congress' defeat in his constituency because his rival within the Congress got the B Form this time around. What has happened to his loyalty to the party? Deve Gowda and Sons( I call them so because only 03 of them are left in the Party;Other worth-mentioning leaders have deserted the Party,sick of Gowda's petty politics) are hoping to get atleast 20 seats so that they can blackmail other political parties and Kumar swamy or Revanna can become CM once again and loot the state,if at all something is still left-out.They are looking at dissidents from BJP and Congress as their potential candidates.Pity. A "Party with a Difference" till recently has turned into "Party with internal Differences" and the kind of language they are using each other is below any standard. Congress Party is full of YOUNG LEADERS in their '70s and they go to elecrorate without projecting a Chief Ministerial Candidate;their justification is "We have a number of leaders capable of becoming Chief Ministers" and our High Command(read: Antonio Maino) will decide .Their biggest problem is THEY HAVE TOO MANY LEADERS which they fail to und
RE:Monkey Brand politicians
by peearen on Apr 21, 2008 05:05 PM Permalink
You have carfully avoided commenting on BJP which shows your love for the party. The first few sentences commented on the state of affairs in political scene but you can not make BJP an exception. The police officials who for the sake of getting congress tickets resigned thir jobs but when denied tickets swiftly moved to BJP who immediately gave them tickets. This monkey business is there in all parties. Karnataka has been ruined by politicians. You can not find a decent politician in any party it may be congress, BJP or JDS.
RE:RE:Monkey Brand politicians
by Power Base on Apr 21, 2008 05:07 PM Permalink
JD(S) can aptly be called Janata Dal (Sons). Only Devegowda (by proxy) and his sons had all the powers during Kumaraswamy's Governament. They must be thinking that the voters of Karnataka are fools to return them to power. This time around, Gowda and his sons will be done to dust and will have to lick their wound, sitting at their houses, after the elections.
RE:50 years back Kerala got a Left govt. We got free education for all. Total reservation is above 50%. K.R. Narayanan, Justice Balakrishnan like people reached highest post of our country, because the special environment.
by sreepathi sreepathi on Apr 21, 2008 04:48 PM Permalink
fool we r talking about karnataka.
keralites were work hard in other places not in kerala.
RE:RE:50 years back Kerala got a Left govt. We got free education for all. Total reservation is above 50%. K.R. Narayanan, Justice Balakrishnan like people reached highest post of our country, because the special environment.
by Vikas on Apr 21, 2008 05:54 PM Permalink
why did the people of India (except waste bengal and waste kerala) reject Left ?
RE:neta kee kahani
by Sahadevan KK on Apr 21, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
Congress and BJP tents are fuming, because it has no ability to work for people. Both of these parties were befooling Indians for last 60 years with lack of people's policy. Frighten, loot, rape and kill remain..
Corruption is everywhere. Politicians, police, government servants, ministers ... everybody works for money only. Also they work for this system prevail.
Congress high command's perverted rules (while issuing party tickets in Karnataka) are only further wrecking the party. It is already a sinking ship and now with the election in Karnataka only a round the corner, the process of sinking is being hastened by crooked and idiot state/central leaders. They are all forgetting the ground realities: BJP and JD(S) are making use of the every opportunity to garner maximum seats in the state while Cognress leaders are squabbling among themselves. The highest order of discontent and revolt witnessed this time is sure to write the swan sang for the party in the coming election. GOD SAVE THIS OLDEST PARY!
pehley raaja g**nd maartey they janta kee. baad mein janta ko laga ki wo bhi raja ban sakti hai so janta saam daam dand bhed laga kar minister banney kii soch sakta hai. kam sey kam gaddi to gaddi hai chahey prajatantra mein yaa raajtantra main. aaam aadmi kee g**nd hamesha maari hai hukumat ney. s sadakein baneein magar chalney waalon ko bhool gaye ye soch kar kee harek key paas gaadi hai bharat mein. sadak pey aam aadmi kee yey haalat hai to bhoool jao andaar kaise hogi.
Kith and kins of Sonia have reservation of seats. For others, it will b on case to case basis again to b dictated by Sonia depending on winability and sycophancy towards Sonia parivar.
Congress will goto history books in these elections. They will loose very badly, as people are unhappy over high inflation and corruption done by UPA Ministers.
RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Bond on Apr 21, 2008 04:27 PM Permalink
And you mean Advani will become PM,GOOD...Let us get ready for another kandhar,akshardham,kargil,parliament attack...
RE:RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Power Base on Apr 21, 2008 04:31 PM Permalink
These incidence were better than the Emergency that was imposed on us in the seventies (by the great leader errr... dictator late Smt. Indira Gandhi).
RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Karunakar Patil on Apr 21, 2008 04:34 PM Permalink
No incident is worst than parliament attack and gujrat carnage.
RE:RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Power Base on Apr 21, 2008 05:00 PM Permalink
Probably you were not even born at that time, so you are talking lightly of the emergency era. The mayhem, the carnage created by killing the democracy would remain the single most black spot in the post independent Indian History.
RE:RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Vikas Bhatt on Apr 21, 2008 04:52 PM Permalink
You mean terrorist attacks likie Mumbai Blasts [3 major - Dozen minors], Hyderabad [2], Varanasi [3], Delhi [half a dozen], Comibatore, Bangalore, Malegaon [3], Nagpur [1] etc [All under Congress UPA] will not happen again if Congress returns? Or that Bangladeshi terrorism & patronization will also decrease if Congress returns to Power? Did Khalistanis blow up Air India planes after hijacking in BJP rule? Who helped Khalistanis and LTTE? Who is responsible for 1500 Indian soldiers killed in Sri Lanka? Who is supporting terrorists and appeasing them for Muslim votebanks?
RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Sam Nath on Apr 23, 2008 02:28 AM Permalink
At least BJP has the guts to call SIMI a terrorist organisation rightfully. BJP installed the POTA and Congi abandoned it. We dont forget this
RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by Vikas Bhatt on Apr 21, 2008 04:51 PM Permalink
You mean terrorist attacks likie Mumbai Blasts [3 major - Dozen minors], Hyderabad [2], Varanasi [3], Delhi [half a dozen], Comibatore, Bangalore, Malegaon [3], Nagpur [1] etc [All under Congress UPA] will not happen again if Congress returns? Or that Bangladeshi terrorism & patronization will also decrease if Congress returns to Power? Did Khalistanis blow up Air India planes after hijacking in BJP rule? Who helped Khalistanis and LTTE? Who is responsible for 1500 Indian soldiers killed in Sri Lanka? Who is supporting terrorists and appeasing them for Muslim votebanks?
RE:Congress will go to history books in these elections
by renuka radhya on Apr 21, 2008 07:30 PM Permalink
i do not think bjp had such good position in karnataka. becz,party become weeken in split of thier leaders views.bjp lost the chance took people good will by party leaders attitude
