If the training imparted by the Armed Forces serves to dehumanise the Soldiers then it is important that before being posted for civilian protection as in the present case both Officers as well as Jawans must be rehumanised by the Armed Forces. The Armed Services have several laudable traditions such as bravery, loyalty, camraderie etc. but they must also learn that in interaction with civilians a dignified way of conduct and bearing are important. To inlfict false encounters not to mention molestation on the common person is completely unacceptable. When the ordinary civilian is frightened enough by an arms bearing uniformed person then what is the need to frighten them further with unacceptable behaviour. The honourable thing for the Armed Forces to do is to apologize to the Public for the wrongs that have been committed and to sensitize its personnel to behave in an acceptable manner with the non uniformed public. The suspicion that the uniformed men may have regarding underground activities of terrorists and their supporters should be clarified by acceptable intelligence gathering methods not by torture and false encounters. The Armed Forces will find that if they are made to behave in a humane manner with the public then even the uniformed personnel will develop a better and more relaxed but vigilant temperament.
Beware guys, some Paki's and Kashmiri Muslims are spreading hatred here and trying to divide us on caste, region, religion. They login with Indian names but slowly try to create tensions..
This will continue to happen if the army personnel continue to be over-worked. An army is NOT meant for handling internal trouble situations like we have in J&K. The police should totally take complete control of the law and order in the state. Since '89 the army has been in J&K. By now the state should have equipped itself. How long are we going to continue burdening the army to tackle militancy?
Army should re-think for human relation among them. Either jawan was nor permitted to do what he wanted or he was pressurized to do wrong thing. Care should be taken.
"As many as 19 army and CRPF jawans have committed suicide in the past six months in Jammu and Kashmir" What do you mean 36 personnel in all? And why army in the lower case, shouldn't it be Army?
RE:Grammar
by ***ASHISH*** on Apr 21, 2008 02:10 PM Permalink
Forget about it... Indian Army can supply poor quality uniforms to its soldiers so what do you expect, will they provide expensive weapons to the soldiers...
in the above article we can easily make out lapses of the armed forces either they have faulty weapons which are sub-standard or the jawan cannot aim perfectly it looks to me as a bystander has shot how can any object suvive after aiming at that much shorter distance
RE:As many as 19 army and CRPF jawans have committed suicide in the past six months in Jammu and Kashmir
by BrotherhoodofNod on Apr 21, 2008 02:06 PM Permalink
are u from porkistan or india.. i m confused.. or do u live somewhere b/n the two countries..
RE:As many as 19 army and CRPF jawans have committed suicide in the past six months in Jammu and Kashmir
by Krishna on Apr 21, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
more than the army people, it's more likely that teens like you will commit suicide. According to latest India Today survey, 5000 teens committed suicide last year due to stress. So think before pointing fingers at army.
george fernandez is responsible for these third grade toys which he made made through middlemen and his ex-keep jaya jaitely whithout open tender and i have serious doubt whether it booms when they actually fire it may be a toy which they think as weapons
RE:weaponary scam
by clark kent on Apr 21, 2008 01:39 PM Permalink
Not to mention, it has a range of ~1000m twice that of a Kalashnikovs (AKs/AK-47s) and highly accurate. The Weapon reloads for every trigger unlike the AKs which dump the entire magazine in a second. So this soldier aimed and shot his company comander ( a more trained and seasoned soldier) there is good chance he didnt get the chance to do what he intended.
There is a reason for what you are. One is definitely NOT intelligence.
RE:RE:weaponary scam
by caspian on Apr 21, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
you mean its human error or negligence of jawan or faulty weapon which didnt killed the object? the author didnt mentioned itthere should be a commision to find the truth. its a serious lapse
RE:weaponary scam
by clark kent on Apr 21, 2008 01:34 PM Permalink
self loading rifle: or SLR is the mainstay in the medium arms armory of Indian Army. It has been around for 30 yrs now. You are a ignorant child "caspian"
RE:RE:weaponary scam
by caspian on Apr 21, 2008 01:40 PM Permalink
but dear how it fails within a meter of fire. there are some standards for weapons. like like if you fire an object with 50 meters distance it should injur or 5 meter distance it should kill the object not injured. we need additional one million army to protect 100000 square miles ?
RE:weaponary scam
by a g on Apr 21, 2008 01:38 PM Permalink
You are as ignorant as a village bumpkin. How is George Fernandez responsible for such haps? He was defence minister 4-5years back and this incident is happening now. This is not an accident. this is something that was committed by the Jawan in the fit of the moment. Stop accusing ppl just bcos you dont like them!!!