Many writers in ignorance, or on sly purpose describe Islam as Empirialist religion. This is completely fallacious. Read on..
1. History of "Islamic Wars" is only 40 years long. Thereafter Islamists and Islam never approved of anything that Muslim Kings did. Muslim Kings are culprits first and foremost in Eyes of Islam
2. Islamic History of War starts with Muhammed pbuh and his followers coming out to face aggressors army in what is known as 'war of Badr'. It was purely defensive war.
3. "Islamic wars" continued for next 40 years as Islam established Caliphate within 10 years and sought to rid humanity of Parasite Kings,tyrants and warlords from face of the earth. Wherever Islamist armies gave kings/warlords a chase, they replaced it with very friendly, austere Caliphate where taxation above 4% was Strictly prohibited and Rule of Law was enforced to such level that even Caliph could not imagine of acting beyond it.
Towards end of this 40 years period, an aspiring governor (Amir Muawia) from within Islamist armies staged coup and established Kingdom again.
ISLAMISTS FOUGHT THESE MUSLIM KINGS TOOTH AND NAIL. But They could not restore Caliphate back.
Muslim Kings repressed Islamists ruthlessly and History is witness that in their ruthlessness Muslim Kings Killed entire clan of Muhammed's grandson Hussain in Karbala, and went on to burn Kaba in Mecca (in Yajeed - son of Muawia - period )
RE:FALLACY OF 'ISLAMIC WARS' ARGUMENT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:33 PM Permalink
Everything that Muslims king did after upturning Caliphate was on their own sweet will. Islam had no links with it. History has only seen CRIMINLA KINGS FIGHTING CRIMINAL KINGS. MUSLIM KINGS were also CRIMINALS in eyes of Islam and Islamists.
Islam never supported, never approved of any Muslim Kingdom. Every Muslim King only curtailed Islamists because Islam and Islamists historically exhorted Muslims to rise and give every king a chase
RE:FALLACY OF 'ISLAMIC WARS' ARGUMENT
by Musharuff Shak on Apr 20, 2008 03:05 PM Permalink
bother about sorting out your 'Protestant' and 'Catholic' issues
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by Musharuff Shak on Apr 20, 2008 03:09 PM Permalink
Mr.Wahaj, You dont have to reply to an Idiots remark who is not aware to what blood he belongs
The Political people in India are a littered lot and the most hated people among the masses,dont expect they have any courage,character or vision to do anything good for the country .... they are only the custodians of foreign prescriptions and agendas handed over to them by the higher world powers and all they can do is to feed the bellies of their families and coming-generations by public exchequer.
some points to reflect let me share in this context .... every child coming out of the womb of a loving and affectionate mother is born innocent and with clean mind by god blessings, whichever religion, faith, caste, creed the child may belong to . then why all this dilution / corruption of minds of the same child on growing up .. there is a saying - society creates the crime, the criminal just carries out the Society's Plan into reality ... how true when we see the reality of things happening around us...
I dont know why govt of india keeps all the terrorists in jails...they should be immediately executed as soon as they r caught...Keeping them in custody only takes us to unnecessary bargaining with thier sponsors...No mercy to Afzal Guru...Hang him immediately....
The Govt. of Pakistan has forwarded a proposal to convert all death penalities into life term to President Musharaf.Let us see what decision is taken by the President on this proposal.If he takes a positive decision on it,Sarabjit might be able to return to his home as he has already been in prison for a period more than a life timer is required to remain.Let us await for President's approval to the proposal sent by Gillani Ministry and see its outcome!
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by phaniprasad M on Apr 20, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
I don't think that would qualify for a 'reciprocating' gesture as Afzal Guru is an Indian national like Sarabjit.If we want to reciprocate Pak's gesture if they pardon Sarabjit then we should also pardon a Pakistani prisoner languishing in one of our jails.Pardoning Afzal will not serve the purpose as he is not a Pakistani.Hope you get my point.
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by Gomtesh on Apr 20, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
This guru must be hanged immediately before they kidnap some innocent & ask for his release in ex change of innocent citizens. gruru's crime does not quality for any leneancy.
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by SkShazid on Apr 20, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Yes I agree we should convert it to life imprisonment and hand him to Punjab Police
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by Sanjeev Bhat on Apr 20, 2008 01:44 PM Permalink
ya as a goodwill gesture we should send u to pakistan and bring Sarabjit back
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by Divya on Apr 20, 2008 02:46 PM Permalink
Mr Abdul Majid If u love your country ,you as a muslim should ask support his death sentence. He has dare to attack the root of our country. I would have supported his life imprisonment had he attacked any temple..........because my country is above my religion. If you cannot do the good deed please leave my country and go back to Pakisthan. Divya
RE:Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by SkShazid on Apr 20, 2008 12:32 PM Permalink
Yes I agree we should convert it to life imprisonment and hand him to Punjab Police.
Is this Sarbijith issue about a case Mistaken identity or get an Indian Agent out of the jail. B'cos if what he has done is what Pakistan says India has no right to talk about his release. But if its about Mistaken identity then why we dint fight in Pakistani court in the First Place
I have a better solution We will swap our biggest terrorist Murderer Modi to release sarbijit,,, This would be the historical biggest deal ever made,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
RE:Best Deal Ever
by SkShazid on Apr 20, 2008 12:06 PM Permalink
But we need to retain the Modi who transformed Gujarat into the country's highest GDP state. We can send Sonia Gandhi for that. he he he
RE:Best Deal Ever
by Truth Exposer on Apr 20, 2008 01:07 PM Permalink
Gomtesh There is no ideal person like Modi In that case a crimal will be punished and an innocent life will be saved,,,,,,,,,
RE:Best Deal Ever
by integrated integrated on Apr 20, 2008 12:39 PM Permalink
You are a coward. Muslims always destroyed Hindu temples and religious places all over the world. Recently talibans destroyed Bamian Budhas.If in a peaceful place like Gujrat, people revolted, it shows, the world has enough of these non sense kattus. People hate muslims as their leaders never came forward to condemn attacks on other religions. Muslims are considered dirty cockcroaches and who bothers in what gutter they live, toilet gutter or kitchen gutter. Modi is a brave nationalist whose state made them pay for their sins. Sarabjit is also a nationalist. I am not sure about u.
RE:Best Deal Ever
by Truth Exposer on Apr 20, 2008 12:58 PM Permalink
integrated integrated You cannot think of anything but Jihad, Muslims and their religion. It haunts your day and night. Come out of it. I wish you had not graduated from the filthy RSS Shakha, where your mind was poisoned against Muslims. Where you were not taught to worship Hitler. Regarding Taliban destroyed statues yesss they have full rights to destroy the evil practicess which take you the darkage,,,,,, By the way whole world considers Hindus as Rioters they are black spot on humanity,,,,, You people deserve to be eradicated,,,,, Yes Modi is can not be called a human after butchering entire gujrat, he has no image except gujrat this Ba4st deserve to death,,,,
RE:Best Deal Ever
by Guruprasad N on Apr 20, 2008 01:16 PM Permalink
I am suprised some-one who is supporting Taliban is calling himself educated! Muslim militancy is known all over the world and Hindu Militancy is the one which is what only you are talking off. Gujarath can be called as an one-off situation. But how can you call this series Kashmir,Mumbai BombBlast, Attack on Parliament, Taliban, 9/11 attack, UK BombBlast, UK failed attempt by Sabeel and Co of Indian origin, man Muslim militancy is all over the place.
RE:RE:Best Deal Ever
by Truth Exposer on Apr 20, 2008 01:30 PM Permalink
Guruprasad N >>>>>>Muslim militancy is all over the place. Conspiracy against muslims also all over the world,,,,,,,,,, Jews are behind international conspiracy,,, Sanghis are behind in national conspiracy against muslims
RE:Best Deal Ever
by Divya on Apr 20, 2008 02:52 PM Permalink
Truth or false exposer or whoever you are
Please mind what u say. Your each and every words prove hoe insecure you are as a muslim. People like u tarnish the image of muslim. I really pity that great man like Abdul Kalam ...whome i really adore , and Javed akhter are muslims. Thease are the few good men who r the bright spot in Muslim
The sole responsible for the Kargil was the "General".. he is completely inhuman and cant be trusted... pakistan is already a hell ... what u expect to happen in Hell......
