RE:Theirs will be an awful doom
by addu khan on Apr 19, 2008 07:02 PM Permalink
Avinash ki ga'nd pey 2 harpatey maro.. saa'ley ku na baithna ayega aur na teherna...
who defines the marriagability of a women?you delibrately want yto avoid the peer reviewed journals which I have quoted that proves a 9 year old of our time is not comparable to that few centuries ago.
Do you know there were many kings who went to battlefield at the age of 10? can you imagine doing that today? To prove Ayeshas intellectual maturity you should know this -many of complicated islamic jurisprudence is based on Ayesha-s interpretation of Quran and Prophet Muhammed sayings.If Ayesha reasons it in a certain perspective,that is considered the most worthy interpretation above all.and also note - it is this Islamic law that is studied in the highest of law schools and forms significant part of many countries civil and crimnal law system
RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:01 PM Permalink
Suresh going by your definition of child,the father of nation Gandhi should first be prosectued for child marriage,but doing so would be ridiculuos because the early genrations even if its just 100 yrs ago had a different level of biological and mental maturity. Now dont bluff this is a child marraige,Gandhi had his first son just 3 years of this marriage
Check the age of kasturbha Gandhi history on University of California, Los Angeles
RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by Avinash on Apr 19, 2008 07:01 PM Permalink
Theer is no need to debate who is a child. I yesterday's news paper there was a rport of a person from Yemen marrying a girl of 8 years and consumating the marriage as there is no minimum age fixed for marriage there. She has now got divorce and gone to her uncle's house as she did not want to go with her father! True tradition of Muhammed!
RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:04 PM Permalink
Going by your definition of child,the father of nation Gandhi should first be prosectued for child marriage,but doing so would be ridiculuos because the early genrations even if its just 100 yrs ago had a different level of biological and mental maturity. Now dont bluff this is a child marraige,Gandhi had his first son just 3 years of this marriage
Check the age of kasturbha Gandhi history on University of California, Los Angeles
..Kasturba Gandhi, known affectionately as Ba, was married to Mohandas Gandhi in 1882 when she was but ten years old..
I have repeated ad infinitum with proof that 9 yeard olf today has a different mental and biological characteristics.Before debating me, confirm at what age your previous generations for example our gradn mother s used to get married..It is not 21,it is not 18,it is not 16,it is much before 14.. and this is just one genaration above..
RE:RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
there are varied opions on the age,i quoted a very authentica material-univeristy of california south east history It clerly says kasturba was 10 years olf,now you suddenly made her above teen... Now Who can define the appropriateness of his age?his beloved wife Ayesha or people who come 1400 years after this knowing nothing about how they loved and lived. How many 50 and (even 70 ) heroes,ceberities,politicians,sportspersons we idolize and venerate their beauty even today ?
I am not comparing the characteristics of these heroes with Prophet muhammed,but this perception of old aged man is a flawed one. Prophet Muhammed lived 1400 years ago and was a real hero and thats why Ayesha was perfectly happy and at times even very envious of Prophet muhammeds then deceased wife khadeja
RE:RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:11 PM Permalink
If he is really sensuos, he would have enjoyed the sexually liberal culture of Arabia?why he has to turn it upside down to the extend looking at women with ill intentions itself came to be considered as evil? why he has to be instrumental in making adultery the most heinious of crime when the rest of world (including rome,china etc) all considered this as part of their very culture?
RE:RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:11 PM Permalink
You should only look at Prophet's life to know this truth.At a time when the whole world was freeely practising unlimited polygamy,Muhammed lived with a single wife Khadeja throughout his prime life (up util 50).All his marriages (including with Ayesha) was after this age. He prayed most of part of his night until his legs sore,went without food for many days despite being the head of state and commanding enormous influence,not to mention his frequent fasting - do sensous men lead a life like this?
RE:RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:08 PM Permalink
for whom you are play the role of attornery here?who is at loss, when Ayesha dn Prophet Muhammed had a perfect and enviable life? Do you have any cluse as to how Ayesha and Prophet Muhammed lived and loved? who is at loss?and whose rights you are fighting for?
RE:@Suresh-who defines a child?
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:06 PM Permalink
Who defines it be inappropriate?his beloved wife Ayesha or people who come 1400 years after this knowing nothing about how they loved and lived. How many 50 and (even 70 ) heroes,ceberities,politicians,sportspersons we idolize and venerate their beauty even today ?
I am not comparing the characteristics of these heroes with Prophet muhammed,but this perception of old aged man is a flawed one. Prophet Muhammed lived 1400 years ago and was a real hero and thats why Ayesha was perfectly happy and at times even very envious of Prophet muhammeds then deceased wife khadeja
RE:We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire.
by Star on Apr 19, 2008 06:58 PM Permalink
If you have guts why dont you make a healthy debate with your accusations.... YOU COWARD IDOLTROUS know only making mockery,,
RE:RE:We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire.
by Avinash on Apr 19, 2008 06:59 PM Permalink
What do you want me to debate? This is what your holy book says!
RE:RE:RE:We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire.
by Star on Apr 19, 2008 07:02 PM Permalink
Abey Nip-ple Dont you understand taking few passage will not work out in any debate,,,,,,, If you think that there is any contradiction in it, that is because of your diseased thinking and mistaken understanding, if you refers to the scholars they will explain to him what is correct and clear up the confusion for him
Avinash you seem to be a low cast Hindu,,,,,, Give up the misguidance in which you had grown up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, The Hindu mentality is such, that it usually accepts anything without questioning its authenticity. The reason is that for several centuries the higher caste Brahmin has taught that the low caste indigenous Indian has no right to question any discrepancies in Hindu beliefs and mythology.
