What ever the Issue the Members here start only communal abusing and bashing!Many may be from Paki land and many using Islamic names and viceversa !It is good that most 99.999999% people of the subcontinet do not read or surf REDIFF or such websites of the west!the issue is Sarabjit's hanging but you all start Communal bashing and abusing! MOHHAMED MARRIED 9 YEAR OLD GIRL ? who introduced this issue here ! AND MANY HERE SEEM TO be doingb reserch on issues of relgion of Hindism and Islamic!but if this forum for is starting new issues then let me atleast try new one "REPUBLICAN PRESIDENT NOMINEE SAYS THE IF NEEDED AMERICA WILL RETAIN AND KEEP TROOPS IN IRAQ FOR THOUSAND YEARS!" So let us all vote for Republican or democrtic od US?Because Obama too says the same thing!You brothers if any one wants to visit visa go for VISA to US embassy!This is from today onwards!Let us all clap for american president nominees for these brave words!
RE:Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim
by Ali boy on Apr 19, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
Context Please
70. Ye People of the Book! Why reject ye the Signs of Allah, of which ye are (Yourselves) witnesses?
71. Ye People of the Book! Why do ye clothe Truth with falsehood, and conceal the Truth, while ye have knowledge?
72. A section of the People of the Book say: "Believe in the morning what is revealed to the believers, but reject it at the end of the day; perchance they may (themselves) Turn back;
73. "And believe no one unless he follows your religion." Say: "True guidance is the Guidance of Allah. (Fear ye) Lest a revelation be sent to someone (else) Like unto that which was sent unto you? or that those (Receiving such revelation) should engage you in argument before your Lord?" Say: "All bounties are in the hand of Allah. He granteth them to whom He pleaseth: And Allah careth for all, and He knoweth all things."
74. For His Mercy He specially chooseth whom He pleaseth; for Allah is the Lord of bounties unbounded.
RE:RE:Don't believe anyone who is not a Muslim
by mahabodhi on Apr 19, 2008 07:43 PM Permalink
Mr. ali boy you r now forcing me!According to many the Kaaba is the Shivaligam!This is has been said from thousand of years ago!We all bow our head to Shivlimga even if it is in Kaaba!
Theer is no need to debate who is a child. I yesterday's news paper there was a rport of a person from Yemen marrying a girl of 8 years and consumating the marriage as there is no minimum age fixed for marriage there. She has now got divorce and gone to her uncle's house as she did not want to go with her father! True tradition of Muhammed.
Also a recent report of Amnesty Internatinal has put three Islamic Countries (Saudi Arabia, Iran and Pakistan) among top 5 countries which executed the maximum number of convicts. This is the condition in countries following the devine law!
RE:@ bALAORD
by Avinash on Apr 19, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
Mr. Balaord, you are pasting the same message without context. What is the connection with my message and your reply???
RE:@ bALAORD
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:21 PM Permalink
Avinash I honestly dont see any relation ship between number of convicts getting executed and a girl refusing to go with her father? You are unware of the crime rate of places where Islamic sharia is implemened!! Amnesty is right in saying,many convicts are executed,do you want convicts to roam freely that so that like america we can do statistics on how many rapes are happening per second?
RE:@ bALAORD
by Avinash on Apr 19, 2008 07:23 PM Permalink
Then what good is your divinely ordained religion and laws? They are just as ineffective as any other religion.
RE:@ bALAORD
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
1400 years ago , women were not playing with dolls and they were much more mature both physically and mentally. Just check the age of British Queens few centuries back,you will realise marrying at early age is neither an exception nor an anomoly.It is just the norm etoile.co.uk/Columns/Paul/060129.html King Edward II - His wife Isabella of France was 12 at the time of marriage King Richard II - Married the daughter of daughter of King Charles VI of France,Isabella de Valois when she was 8 King Henry III -Mariied Eleanor of Provence when she was 13
RE:@ bALAORD
by Ali boy on Apr 19, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
Include US of A which seems more civilized than you.In india we dont have convictions we have extra judicial killings and genocides in which the state machinery is ACTIVELY Involved.You see faith at work
RE:@ bALAORD
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
The biological and maturity of the earlier generations is not comprable with todays women because these are changing over the period.For details check the peer reviewed jorunals on this changinging biological and physiological characters of eraly generations questia.com/PM.qst?a=o&se=gglsc&d=98501236
....since elite women generally married around the age of puberty or even earlier...
..The marriage ceremony itself, which often took place when a girl was twelve years old, and sometimes even earlier...
RE:@ bALAORD
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:14 PM Permalink
Going by your definition of child,the father of nation Gandhi should first be prosectued for child marriage,but doing so would be ridiculuos because the early genrations even if its just 100 yrs ago had a different level of biological and mental maturity. Now dont bluff this is a child marraige,Gandhi had his first son just 3 years of this marriage
Check the age of kasturbha Gandhi history on University of California, Los Angeles
..Kasturba Gandhi, known affectionately as Ba, was married to Mohandas Gandhi in 1882 when she was but ten years old..
I have repeated ad infinitum with proof that 9 yeard olf today has a different mental and biological characteristics.Before debating me, confirm at what age your previous generations for example our gradn mother s used to get married..It is not 21,it is not 18,it is not 16,it is much before 14.. and this is just one genaration above..
RE:RE:avinash tell is any word wrong ,you are feeling dismay becoz there are no monkeys ,snakes cowa or man with ten heads or god chopping off his own sons head
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:16 PM Permalink
If he is really sensuos, he would have enjoyed the sexually liberal culture of Arabia?why he has to turn it upside down to the extend looking at women with ill intentions itself came to be considered as evil? why he has to be instrumental in making adultery the most heinious of crime when the rest of world (including rome,china etc) all considered this as part of their very culture?
RE:Disbelievers will go to Hell.
by Star on Apr 19, 2008 07:10 PM Permalink
suresh As long as you are blind in blind faith you can never be able to understand the reason,,,, So you guys look good when you dance infront of dead stones only,,,,,,,,,
RE:Disbelievers will go to Hell.
by balaord on Apr 19, 2008 07:26 PM Permalink
Civilizatiosn rise and fall according to God's will.In this century Muslims have fallen on bad times,but yiu should know the history how Islam actually laid the foundations of modern science and created a rich culture If you dont read watch these documentatries from well reconginzed manin stream channels
The american government funded Public Broadcasting Service channel
PBS-Empire of Faith pbs.org/empires/islam/innomedicine.html
RE:Disbelievers will go to Hell.
by mahabodhi on Apr 19, 2008 07:28 PM Permalink
let their be full freedom here !Why report abuse message of suresh and why should Rediff immediatly conceal it!If u can not do proper censor let it be free for all!REDIFF is fooling with all subcontinent people!If there is one journalist speaking for India there are two for pakis and hundreds for Chines !all these western journist are enjoying their stay in these countries!and making moneu !For one Francoise theer are hunder for Chinese and atleast fifty for Pakis!The game Of Rediff is over!See Q & A forum of Rediff I have sent many Emails of its mesages to Govt. of India it is promting pornography !Just click sex in Q & A and see for your self!This Rediff is out to destroy the culture of the subcontinet !Except putting messages of hatered by both communities nothing good is done by Rediff!this pure yellow journilism!
RE:Disbelievers will go to Hell.
by Star on Apr 19, 2008 07:15 PM Permalink
The day you understand the true religion you could realize only,,,,,,,,, Allah does not guarantee the believers a smooth and comfortable life in this world. Hardships in this world will bring them more reward in the hereafter,,,,,,,,,,,
