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Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 04:44 PM  Permalink 

As a goodwill gesture the indian government should Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment

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CONCEPT OF ONE GOD
by ARTHI on Apr 20, 2008 04:24 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

HEY GUYS THE CONCEPT OF ONE GOD IS CORRECT.SEE THERE IS ONE PRESIDENT OR KING TO RULE THE COUNTRY. THERE IS ONE HEAD OF THE FAMILY THERE IS ONE DRIVER FOR A CAR ETC. SO TOO MANY IS TOO CONFUSING. BELIVE IN URSELF AND NOT WHAT UR FOREFATHER HAVE SAID TO DO

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RE:CONCEPT OF ONE GOD
by sunil shera on Apr 20, 2008 05:41 PM  Permalink
@ARTHI :

READ THE VEDAS AND BHAGWAT GITA TO TRULY UNDERSTAND THE CONCEPT OF 1 GOD

THE GOD IS REFERRED TO AS PARAMATMA (THE SUPREME SOUL)

its from that supreme soul which our souls are part of, and to whom we merge back after salvation by following good deeds (karma)

Hindus represent the Paramatma as the trinity and worships the trinity or its avatars (rama from vishnu, hanuman from shiva) - so there is no ambiguity or contradictions!
AND BELIEVE ME, THAT 1 GOD WOULD NOT HAVE WANTED HIS WORD / MESSAGE TO BE SPREAD BY SWORD AND CALLED NON-BELIEVERS KAFIR (think logically )

i do not want to start a religious debate here as it leads to senseless abuses. - bye


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WHAT IS QURANIC JEHAD
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 03:23 PM  Permalink 

Jehad as per Quran is not war or violence. It has same meaning as "KARMA" of Gita. Read on...

JEHAD:
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Jehad means to strive, to put in everything

(my posting this message also Jehad)

JEHAD AGAINST NON-BELIEF:
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Jehad against non-belief means to strive to educate and enlighten non-believers out of ignorant beliefs.

JEHAD AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS:
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Jehad against non-believers means to strive to debate, to convince to educate and enlighten non-believers out of ignorant beliefs.

Jehad against non-believers also means to boldly face threat of physical harm/damage by those few agents who try force you to giveup your endeavor to enlighten ignorant brothers because they stand to benefit commercially from prevailing ignorance

But crooked writers, movie makers etc make their own Interpretations of Quranic verses and make crooked stories or films.

We Muslims care a dam for such misrepresentation of Quran.


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@LOTUS
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:14 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies


I see none as fighting for Islam....

Hamas is fighting for Palestine

Chechens for Chechenya

Laden for forcing US out of ARAB lands

Kashmiris for Kashmir

Afghans for Afghanistan

...and here you come dreaming that they are fighting for ISLAMIC Ummah. Produce a statement if you have from any such group to support this.

YES, some groups are striving for one Ummah. They are all peaceful. One such is Hizbut-tahreer, Dawat Tableeg etc.

These are only opponents of these movements who want to paint these as Islamic religion based movements, and malign Islam.

NOT ACCEPTABLE


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RE:@LOTUS
by LOTUS on Apr 20, 2008 03:56 PM  Permalink
Then tell me please, if Islam is not the motivating factor, then why a Pakistani goes to fight in Chechanya; why Laden or Zawahiri are motivating their non-iraqi fighters to fight in Iraq; then why Sudanese militants are getting trained in Afghanistan to fight in Kashmir or elsewhere.

THIS IS ALL DUE TO ISLAMIC CONCEPTS.
AND WHY EVERY MUSLIM IS UNITED FOR PALESTINIAN HAMAS, WHY EVERY MUSLIM CONSIDERS LADEN A HERO?? ALL THIS IS AGAIN THE COMMON THREAD OF ISLAM, WHICH MOTIVATES ALL THE 'BELIEVERS' TO SUPRESS,NEUTRALISE OR DOMINATE 'NON-BELIEVERS'


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RE:RE:@LOTUS
by AHMED ALI on Apr 20, 2008 04:07 PM  Permalink
why dont u go and fight against the so called jehadis fighting for kashmir. why?

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FALLACY OF 'ISLAMIC WARS' ARGUMENT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:05 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Many writers in ignorance, or on sly purpose choose to describe Islam as Empirialist religion based on Historic evidence. This is completely fallacious. Read on..

1. "Islamic" History of war is only 40 years long. Thereafter Islam has never approved of anything that Muslim Kings have done, Muslim Kings are culprits first and foremost in Eyes of Islam

2. Islamic History of War starts with Muhammed pbuh and his followers coming out to face aggressors army in what is known as 'war of Badr'. It was purely defensive war.

3. "Islamic" wars continued for next 40 years as Islam sought to rid humanity of Parasite Kings,tyrants and warlords from face of the earth. Wherever Islamist armies gave kings/warlords a chase, they replaced it with very friendly, austere Caliphate where taxation above 4% was Strictly prohibited and Rule of Law was enforced to such level that even Caliph could not imagine of acting beyound it.

towards end of this 40 years period, some aspiring governors (Amir Muawia) from within Islamist armies staged coup and established Kingdom again. Islamists fought these new born Muslim Kings tooth and nail. But They could not restore Caliphate back. Muslim Kings repressed Islamists ruthlessly and History is witness that in their ruthlessness they Killed entire clan of Muhammed's grandson Hussain, and went on to burn Kaba in Mecca (in Yajeed - son of Muawia - period )

This was END of "Islamic" wars. No politics played after that was ISLAMIC.

contd..

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RE:FALLACY OF 'ISLAMIC WARS' ARGUMENT
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:06 PM  Permalink

contd.. from last post..

This was END of "Islamic" wars. No politics played after that was ISLAMIC. What happened subsequently in world history is only KINGS fighting KINGS. Islam has no links with it. Islam never approved of Kings rights to rule. Islamists have onlt been a threat to every MUSLIM king in History.

Every Muslim King has curtailed Islamists just because Islam does not accommodate them at all.


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None is Islamic Terrorist
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:01 PM  Permalink 


I see none as fighting for Islam....

Hamas is fighting for Palestine

Kashmiris for Kashmir

Chechens for Chechenya

Laden for forcing US out of ARAB lands

...and here you come dreaming that they are fighting for ISLAMIC Ummah. Produce a statement if you have from any such group to support this.

YES, some groups are striving for one Ummah. They are all peaceful. One such is Hizbut-tahreer

These are only opponents of these movements who want to paint these as Islamic religion based movements, and malign Islam.

NOT ACCEPTABLE

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RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 01:55 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 01:53 PM
Go and see what RSS is teaching in temples in Shishu mandir u will now how to kill innocent people,rape women and loot property.RSS is telling to unite all Hindus this is not in the lines of u versus we.

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RE:RE:RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 02:03 PM  Permalink
RSS is champion of Hate campaign. They have invented monumental stuff based on imagination to paint Isslam as Barberic and violent.

They are masters of forgery of History along with Jews



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Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 12:36 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

In India Naxalites are operating in 17 states ULFA in 7 north eastern states and LTTe in tamilnadu and Srilanka all are hindu terrorist.First check the facts and then answer.

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RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by LOTUS on Apr 20, 2008 01:36 PM  Permalink
Dear Abdul,
You are confusing the issue.
When we talk of an Islamic terrorist or a Hindu terrorist, we mean that they are creating terror in the name of their religion, their religious ideology is uniting such people.
So, naxalites or LTTE etc mentioned by you are not united by religious ideology like Islam. They are united by their own socio-political ideology.
But you would agree, the so called 'Hindu terrorists' are ants as compared to 'Islamic terrorists'. The Islamic terrorism is based on the concept of Ummah or Dar-ul-Islam, which unites all muslims across the borders.It is much more organised. In comparison the 'Hindu terrorists' are just street rioters, who act only on a local provocation as a knee jerk reaction.
Moreover, terrorism is not preached in religious meetings in Hindu temples.

I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR COMMENTS (a la Dr Zakir Naik)

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RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 01:53 PM  Permalink
Go and see what RSS is teaching in temples in Shishu mandir u will now how to kill innocent people,rape women and loot property.

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RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by LOTUS on Apr 20, 2008 04:00 PM  Permalink
If that is what is happening, then I withdraw the last sentence of my comment. But the rest of that needs your deliberation.

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RE:Neha chandani-Hindu terrorist
by Wahaj Faridy on Apr 20, 2008 01:58 PM  Permalink
Hamas is fighting for Palestine

Kashmiris for Kashmir

Chechens for Chechenya

Laden for forcing US out of Muslim lands

...and here you come dreaming that they are fighting for ISLAMIC Ummah. Produce a statement if you have from any such group to support this.

YES, some groups are striving for one Ummah. They are all peaceful. One such is Hizbut-tahreer


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Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment
by Abdul Majeed on Apr 20, 2008 12:32 PM  Permalink 

As a goodwill gesture the indian government should Change the Death sentence of Afzal Guru to life imprisionment.

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what's indian navy doing?
by Pradip Parekh on Apr 20, 2008 06:01 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

why can't indian navy afford protection to the fishermen? what's the navy for if it can't do this simple job? another huge govt failure.

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