A person should be judged on his merits, not the number of votes he gets from the masses who know bugger all about the arts of governing. A person should be given the highest office in the land by a number of people who know the chosen man's abilities, strengths and weaknesses, not some goof whom the masses know practically nothing about. An elected politician is no gurantee of his ability to lead the country in a way that suits the conditions and circumstances of the country in question. The important thing is to choose the right person to lead the country, not the means by which that person is chosen. Democracy might work for India. Autocracy is working for China nicely. We have no intention to change our time-tested system that has been a major contributor to our economic success. We believe that the sacrifices of the few is for the good of the majority. That's the way things should be done. That's why what can be done in one year in China usually takes 10 years in India. The race is on and time is the essence.
RE:Democracy or autocracy, We Chinese have made our choice.
by Sharad on Apr 18, 2008 08:53 AM Permalink
At the end of the day, what matters most to ONE is in ONE'S HEAD. If China's way of life appeals to you, great, so be it. Indians cherish democracy over creature comforts. They are willing to work through consensus, albeit at a slower and nerve wracking pace. There are comfortable in working with each other, no matter what. PROGRESS IS NOT IN STONES, PROGRESS IS IN HUMAN HEAD. Democratic ideal is a progressive way of thinking.
RE:Boycott
by Sharad on Apr 18, 2008 09:11 AM Permalink
Go to an arab country, and keep telling this joke to everybody around and spend your time laughing. Why are you spending time on a discussion board like this?
RE:Boycott
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:40 AM Permalink
What is so bad if you can not write this. You are eating , sleeping etc. That is enough. Is it not. What prompted you to write in public like this?
RE:Boycott
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 06:54 AM Permalink
yes, but my other needs have been fulfilled .. had they not been fulfilled, I wouldn't have cared about writing .... so democracy is good for those who have their basic needs met ... if most of india is poor and people do not have food for their family or a home whose roof leaks when it rains, do not care about writing in public forum. do they?
it's all relative ... democracy is certainly not at the top of your shopping list.
RE:Boycott
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 08:06 AM Permalink
oye pakistani, they are yr muslim countries, in fact ... you muslims are the terror sponsoring jehadies .... it is you guys who marry within family to hide incesst and rape under the guise of sharia law ... and then, when things don't look good, you strap explsives to yr belt ... LOL
RE:Boycott
by Don johnson on Apr 18, 2008 09:59 AM Permalink
Hindu Nazi fundamnetalists basking under the guise of the US war on terror have targetted the Muslims again, and I am sure the Indian agencies will again implicate the innocent Muslims again.
This is getting too much,
Gujarat Genocide of Muslims,
Malegaon Bomb Blasts,
Mumbai Bomb Blats
All caried by the Hindu Nazis and blamed on the Muslims becuase its easy times and less international scrutiny. So up urs bhindians
RE:Boycott
by Sharad on Apr 18, 2008 07:01 AM Permalink
Democracy is Humanising. Other systems prevent humans from expressing their THOUGHTS AND IDEAS which are the very soul of human beings, and which make them different from animals.
RE:Boycott
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 07:06 AM Permalink
well, that's not the point here. democracy may be a better option for some but not for all .. like US wanted to put democracy in Iraq and has failed thus far.
freedom of expression of thought comes with the responsibility of accepting others' right to express his/her thoughts too ... that responsibilty does not come by imposing democracy ... a society has to be ready for democracy
Today, India got a taste of life..chinese style withing the heart of its own country. I see no point in having a torch relay when the people of the country are not even allowed to witness it. There was even greater security then what it is generally on Republic Day. Only a few school children and Chinese delegates( carrying anti-BBC anti-CNN anti-Sarkozy anti-Dalai Lama banners were allowed to witness the torch relay. It is ridiculous that the chinese were given permission while the Indians were shooed away from Janpath and around. I dont understand WHY the Indian government is so pro China and is going to such extents to please them
RE:Day of Shame for India!!
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 04:18 AM Permalink
nothing shameful ... it was the right thing to do. Let's not support a separatist movement in Tibet when we do not like Pakistan supporting separatist movement in kashmir.
RE:Day of Shame for India!!
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:43 AM Permalink
Why can not mass like you are the seperatists? There in Tibet they are free in their home land. Can't you understand this. In India we are not like that for the Kashmiris
April 15 (Bloomberg) -- The next time some politician or activist suggests an Olympic boycott I want you to think of Craig Beardsley. And then tell me that countries suddenly outraged at China's record on human rights shouldn't send their athletes to Beijing. You probably don't recognize the name Craig Beardsley. Unlike swimmers Mark Spitz or Michael Phelps, Beardsley never got his Olympic chance to win hearts and minds. ``I was really breaking through,'' Beardsley said during a recent hour-long telephone conversation. ``The timing was right in 1980.'' Physically, yes. Geopolitically, no. The Russians were in Afghanistan, prompting the U.S. to pull out of competition. Beardsley remembers having pizza with friends when told of President Jimmy Carter's decision to boycott the Summer Games in Moscow. ``Even then, we were thinking, `what good does a boycott really do?'' he said. Sports fans should know what the Beardsley family sacrificed for a chance to represent the U.S. Beardsley at age 4 learned to swim at the 92nd Street Y on the Upper East Side of Manhattan. He attended the United Nations International School, where one of his classmates was an Afghani prince. ``It was like a mini U.N.,'' Beardsley said. ``At a very early age we recognized we're not just one little island on this planet.''
Last Out
Diplomacy runs in the Beardsley family. His grandfather was consul-general for the
Chinese have definitely ignited the passion for FREE TIBET and have seen a large world population share that GENUINE DREAM of Tibetans.
China's rulers by their vulgar display of brutal power in violent repression of the peaceful Buddhists of Tibet has shown that they do NOT respect the rights of others. This view is more strengthened when you reflect on its support of North Korea, Burma, and other such dictatorial rulers.
Chinese Communist Rulers fear Free thinking people. That is why they crushed their own brethern in Tiananmen with an iron hand. Most communist rulers are corrupt dictators. They have hoodwinked the population by diverting funds from its villages to cities. They have caused huge ecological disasters, which will be visible in the next few years - the Three Gorges Dam is going to be a big ecological disaster for a huge region of China. This information is being systematically suppressed.
RE:Light the passion, Share the Dream of FREE Tibet
by Demo-crazy on Apr 18, 2008 03:10 PM Permalink
@gpit, Whome did the Tibetans kill or burn? It is always the Chinese who have indulged in such acts.
If you have facts, present them clearly. Let others know what you really mean.
RE:Light the passion, Share the Dream of FREE Tibet
by PP Y on Apr 18, 2008 06:47 AM Permalink
all hindus are eunuchs.....btw in arabic word hindu means"thief"......LOL
The Olympics have become a just a big commercial circus. And on top of that, these Olympics are being hosted by our arch-enemy, China. Why should India be falling all over themselves, trying to protect the Olympics torch, spending so much money on the security arrangements? India should have curtly told the Chinese, that due to the tense situation, the torch-run through India would not be possible. Imagine all the money and effort that could have been saved, if we had simply canceled. The security-men on this torch-assignment seem to have been given proper riot-protection gear, in sharp contrast to the the poor policemen in Kashmir, who are forced to face hordes of stone-throwing Islamic barbarians on a daily basis, without being provided with any decent riot-protecion gear, and with the additional foolish constraint being placed upon them, that the police may not fire upon these pieces-of-garbage throwing rocks at the police, because, our Congress government of Manmohammed Singh and Phonyia Gandhi would hate to see any 'innocent' Kashmiri rioter getting injured.
RE:Why bother with this torch run ?
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:46 AM Permalink
You will do more than this and will say it will be for right cause if it comes to you
RE:Why bother with this torch run ?
by Rocky Marciano on Apr 18, 2008 06:15 AM Permalink
I'm sure these BJP guys would have been raving mad at the tibetans if BJP was running the govt.and the tibetans had rioted.The BJP /bajrang dal goons would then have beaten up the tibetans to death would'nt they?
RE:RE:Why bother with this torch run ?
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:47 AM Permalink
They would not have done like this when COmmunits propping the Go-vernment
China trying to fool the world again...Infact Chinese regime brutal, whole world knows...If Chinese know decency, they must get out of occupied Tibet. Tibet is Tibet, Tibetans not Chinese....China still occupies large area of India...those Indians support Chinese are Indian traitors licking Chinese..this is the reality !!!
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Movez DSouza on Apr 18, 2008 01:53 AM Permalink
The press should have saif this "The Tibetans parallel torch was a success" Look at the images there were more people supporting the tibetan torch than the olympic torch
RE:RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Rocky Marciano on Apr 18, 2008 06:18 AM Permalink
More people does not mean BJP people.lol
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by gpit on Apr 18, 2008 02:47 AM Permalink
Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, Indian Olympic Association President Suresh Kalmadi, Milkha Singh, Gurbachan Singh Randhawa, Sportsmen Leander Paes, Mahesh Bhupati, Aslam Sher Khan, Dhanraj Pillay, Zafar Iqbal, Wilson Cherian, Khazan Singh, K Malleswari, K Kunjurani, Bishen Singh Bedi%u2026 are not people?
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by JSDara on Apr 18, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Don, You first know the facts. India is not occupying the Kashmir. It was occupied by Pakistan and to an extent by China. Kashmir king wants to be with India rather than Pakistan or as an independent state.
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Rocky Marciano on Apr 18, 2008 06:16 AM Permalink
Kashmir king wanted to be with India but kashmiri people wanted to be with pakistan.Another case like Tibet!
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 04:23 AM Permalink
yeah, but majority of population in kashmir was and is still muslim ... on the other hand, Dalai lama isn't even asking for freedom, it is the indian protestors who are chanting to free tibet.
RE:RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:54 AM Permalink
If freedom given Tibeton will not say no to it and will say ' will be part of chiNa.Dhalai Lama fears if he raise independency CHIna will kill many Tibetans That is why he is asking atleat autonomy
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 07:00 AM Permalink
that's pure speculation on your part ... have you seen or heard dalai lama say that his call for autonomy is because a call for freedom will be crushed? ... LOL
RE:RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Ramesh Iyer on Apr 18, 2008 06:51 AM Permalink
Correct i meant here that Kashmir is part of India. India did not occupy the Kashmir but paKisTan
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by satyarthi on Apr 18, 2008 01:42 AM Permalink
Please read the UN resolution carefully word by word. The first condition was that pak would vacate the occupied area first. As a portion of that occupied area is handed over to China, that possiblity is closed for ever. The red china is not going to vacate without war.
RE:RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 04:24 AM Permalink
and we won't ever be able to beat china in a war ... so, forget that happening
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Brave Boy on Apr 18, 2008 02:17 AM Permalink
Bottom line is this there are people like you who will never prefer peace in that part world. If it is peaceful and unite then it will powerful.
DONT MAKE ANY REMARKS IF YOU DO NOT KNOW ABOUT IT.
RE:Olympic torch relay ends without people.....correct the headline
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 04:35 AM Permalink
even Tibetans are not asking chinese to get out ... tu bhee naa jo marjee bolta hai ... tibetans want to live under chinese occupation. they just want total autonomy in administration.
RE:Mr.Reporter - Did you check the article?
by Loan Shark on Apr 18, 2008 04:21 AM Permalink
sahee pakaDa ... LOL .... abhee maloom naheen kee galtee sardar ne kee yaa phir rediff ke reporter ne.
