Thank goodness that not everyone in this poverty-stricken land are ignoramus dipheads the likes of this Kanwar person. At least the BPOs are creating well paying jobs by any standards. Would this idiot have preferred that these folks were unemployed or hawking cheap trinkets at every stinking road and bylane? And what does BPOs and their 'cyber-coolies', as he puts it, have to do with high commodity prices in the international market?
is there hope still that this country will survive in the long run? I am probably being a fatalist but today I am afraid to have kids because they don't have a future in this country. I am probably putting my life at risk by trying to fight all forces that want me to have a family but I am not too sure I have it in me(given I am so attached to everything around me that is being systematically destroyed) that I can fight the forces and try to make a life for the upcoming generations. Those who are progenating, they are probably going to have the last laugh at someone's cost but I am not too sure still. I need signals of hope that somewhere the nation is going to change for the better - Soon
RE:all said and done...
by Pradip Parekh on Apr 20, 2008 05:48 AM Permalink
suptasya mukhey na pravishanti mrigaha. ( a deer does not just enter a sleepy lion's mouth). hope in modern indian context is when you have bjp rule. granted, that is no big relief. but in modern india what you correctly speak of systematic destruction is owing to political antipathy of the hindus. if there is a political vacuum, you can be sure undesirables will occupy it. the next act on the agenda of operation-hope is the bjp victory in karnatak.
RE:RE:all said and done...
by leonard on Apr 19, 2008 12:57 AM Permalink
Unfortunately, Mr Shrikant, the future may very well be "survival of the fittest". This depends on where you see yourself, are you prepared to allow circumstances to overcome, or are you a survivor.
We all know what companies like Wipro, Infosys, TCS,... do? They basically rent their people out (i.e. make them cyber coolies) so that they can write low-level C codes. But how long will this last? Because some other country will start doing the same at a fraction of their cost. Unless these companies produce some well-known product, this bubble will burst. We had an example of that in the dot-com bust of 2000. And in this IT craze, we are already destroying our agriculture. So in the end, India may become a country with no options to earn a living. But why do I forget, all of us can become the BPO operators!
RE:How long will the IT industry last?
by Vijay on Apr 22, 2008 04:12 PM Permalink
First of all you do not know IT business. IT industry started with both low end and middle level jobs in India. Now there is lot of high technology being developed in India. You do not see many products from India because there is no demand for products (paid) in India. How IT has destroyed agriculture? It is not IT which destroyed agriculture. It is our great UPA government with agriculture minister like Sharad Pawar (or Cricket minister) who destroyed Indian agriculture.
RE:How long will the IT industry last?
by leonard on Apr 19, 2008 01:06 AM Permalink
It seems like you guys are not informed of global IT trends. It is an accepted fact that India,s MIT produces the most capable IT engineers in the world. Therefore the companies that employs these people are capable of varied high level processes
RE:How long will the IT industry last?
by userwas userwas on Apr 18, 2008 11:47 PM Permalink
What are you talking about ? what has your comments to do with agriculture crisis and shortage of wheat and rice that the above article talks about ? Do you want Wipro , TCS and Infosys to start producing them ?
Looks like you are one of those guys from non-IT who is jealous of IT folks. So you folks atribute every problem to IT.
RE:How long will the IT industry last?
by Demo-crazy on Apr 18, 2008 02:51 PM Permalink
For your information, not all these people write low level C codes! And, C coding is not so low!!
In spite of so many off the shelf products being available, people still ask custom development because of their organization processes, their business model and reporting requirements. And any software developed, needs to be maintained and enhanced or replaced to meet newer needs. There is nothing wrong in this process at all. Whether you call them cyber-coolies or anything else, does not matter.
Not all product companies can sell their ware successfully. Also, the trend is to build a generic product and customize it to meet the client needs. This is what happens with most ERP, CRM, SCM packages. Then in large scale services organizations, to keep costs low, the need of BPO is felt.
If you do not wish to be part of the IT industry, you are most welcome to do something else.
IT cannot and should not destroy agriculture. The government policies are skewed. It should treat Agriculture on par with industry and help them modernize and build necessary infrastructure, finance and insurance plans. The problem is our politicians, are out of tune with agriculture industry overseas and they are comfortable with exploiting the farmer class here while the middle men, stockists, and large business houses are making money at the farmers' cost. This is one BIG failure of successive governments at the centre.
RE:How long will the IT industry last?
by Manjula A on Apr 19, 2008 12:22 PM Permalink
The IT and ITES industries are the lifeline of India currently. That is where all the money is coming from and then dissipating up and down. They are the ones pay good amount to everyone from sharebrokers to autodrivers milkmen. Some jeoulous people who are lazy and can't make a living are people who write against them.
RE:As a starting point...
by Demo-crazy on Apr 18, 2008 02:53 PM Permalink
Let us add Kamalnath & PC to the list! Do not forget to throw Arjun Singh because he has only made noise all these years while education in small towns and villages has gone for toss. He focusses on IIMs, and IITs as if that is the place for 90% of our students.
Unfortunately sick minds are ruling these ministries.
Pkl. D.Goel,afternoon, 1.25pm,Friday,18th April, 2008. Well. TRV Shenoy with precision charts out indifference of our Economic wizards in Central Vista when it comes to providing a shred of Food Policy aiming self-Sufficiency to a burgeoning Billion and more people..The Bio-Feuls are cutting on world's Grain production, while it reduces costs of developed world as far as fuel from imported oil is replaced by Ethanol from low grade Corns in vast agriculture based lands of Argentina , Brazil Australia ,Canada ,Kazakistan and USA.Our south indian brethren ,now, have been seen to have started eating too many Chappaties, and the north Indians too much Rice gruels so runs the wisecrack wisdom of GOI's experts in Krishi Bhawan as an alibi for a policy of meeting out the problem of credible food-stocks at optimimal levels at lowest costs. That warnings of an official expert,even such as MS Swaminathan one of the architects of Green Revolution of Indiraji 's days are ignored by Brave-new-world planners like Ahluwalia, Chidambaram,Manmohan Singh ,Pawar and other commuters like Commerce and trade minister Kamal Nathji to GATT and other Global jamborees round the year. we are in for serious bust as far as food riots are just rearing up ,right ,now ,above the event horizon ,before they actually occur wisecracks of wizend minister like Chappaties and Rice-Gruel are spice to humour in a sordid and humourless life of the poor..D. Goel
Rest of the Indians should be grateful to the so-called Bimaru states who have additional food grain stock so that it can be diverted to rest of India. Otherwise, inspite of the their IT earnings, they will not be able to feed their people by food imports. Kindly note that food in international markets has become very expensive, so these IT dollars will be of little use. On the other hand UP has a surplus supply of food grains which, if allowed to export, can make it very rich. I wish Raj Thackrey's wish of kicking UP out of India were to come true. Because that will make UP an exporter of food, and will earn us much more foreign exchange than the companies like Wipro and Infosys can earn. Then farming in UP will become a profitable business, and there will be no need for our youth to go to Mumbai or anywhere else. But why am I day dreaming? The destiny of us 'BIMARU' states is to feed India and then get blamed for it as well.
Farmers are refrain from farming these days especially the food crops due to the lack of encouragement or support from the central and state government. The next generation of farmers are also not interested to do farming and they are looking for lucrative jobs in BIG Indian cities after taking any degrees by giving high fees as tution fees and donation which is happening in every corner of India. If the government or public body ready to offer the following then more people will come forward (at least the current no of farmers) will do farming Incentive to Farmers Insurance to Farmers Free supply of good seeds to Farmers Free water and power to Farmers Set a high minimum price for thier products
Sir, With due regards all written is true but the irony is that our babus magaging the (dis)functional or malfunctional PUBLIC DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM should note that the grain is rotting in the godown and no one to see that the stock reaches out to the most needy. The genesis of the problem is the licence permit culture which has allowed the sleeping beauraucrats to go away scotfree and without any accountibility. Apart from that the pay commission has made the matter worse by increasing the salary of the public servants without taking into account the contribution made by them to the soceity at large for which they are appointed.When more money comes into the economy the inflationary trend is bound to happen which raises the price of the commodities for which foodgrain is one of them. Last but not the least the agricultural growth in our country has remaied static and the population groth continues unabated in the hindi heartland which is also responsible gor the mess
