Those were crinimals. So what?. In China, those who took away lifes get the death sentence. Simple really.
There are more people gunned down in the US than people executed for their crimes in China. The difference is that the Americans died in vain, whilst the families of the victims in China find solace in the fact that the criminals get capital punishment for their crimes against humanity.
RE:So what?
by raj sreedhar on Apr 15, 2008 09:10 PM Permalink
XianYe , Dont compare oranges and apples. America have freedom and it is a democracy. And people live in harmony in USA. Many nationalities getting along fine. AND YOU CHINA MEN TRYING TO COME TO USA BY HIDING IN CONTAINERS. MANY CHINESE LIVE IN USA , I BET THEY DONT WANT TO GO BACK TO CHINA.YOU DONT KNOW A CRAP ABOUT USA.
RE:So what?
by KV SUDHAKAR REDDY on Apr 15, 2008 12:49 PM Permalink
If so then why are you hiding the executions made in china. Make the the executions open to the world
Per Se, I am against executions. However, innocents are not executed. Let's not forget, these executions takes place in accordence to Laws. Whether we agree or not to such provisions is another issue. But, The citizens of China would be aware about the punishments as per their laws. Hence, before they break the law, they will be aware of the perils. So let's not demonise China. We too have our laws. Including capital punishments. It's our perogative to decide - crime and punishment - in India. So is China. It's remains to be seen if execution actually has any effects on crime levels.
RE:Executions
by Demo-crazy on Apr 15, 2008 02:22 PM Permalink
The only difference is, in India a person on death row is constantly kept alive based on the political calculations of the Delhi Sarkar, while in China the punishment is actioned very quickly with no long haul petitions, review-petitions, mercy petitions, etc.
Also while treating criminals in this manner is OK, why should the intellectuals and democratic activists be persecuted? It shows that the Chinese Communist rulers have something to hide. These communist leaders have acquired wealth which they manage to stash without being affected by the very laws they use against their citizens.
In China, Communists are more than equal in comparison to their common citizens.
RE:Executions
by Aftab on Apr 15, 2008 12:48 PM Permalink
you are absolutely right. We in India know that if we board a train without a proper ticket, we are committing a crime and are liable to be punished. If after knowing this also I travel without ticket and am caught, then I am solely responsible for the punishment that will be awrded to me as and when i am caught.
RE:Saudiarabia another gold medallist for global executions too.....
by Nostra Damus on Apr 15, 2008 03:01 PM Permalink
Come on the Chinese are way more civilized than the stone age mental cases in Saudi Arabia.
Rediff Message board is the right place to learn about Indian civilized society :-). I often make my colleagues in developed countries read interesting bits and pieces. No wonder India is rated third as thrid world cournty. where else can you find such 'civilization' :-)
However, there corruption is taken very seriously. However, in India it is not so. Although China is guilty of forcing their way onto Tibetans, on this count, I support China. There is no point in supporting a state treasury robber with tax payers money. Better get rid of him altogether. This report complements a simultaneous article on Aam admi's money stashed in Tax havens. A punishment is a deterrent. In India it's obviously not...as punishment is rarely meted to the deserving. Lets learn from the Chinese on this!
Centuries back chinese build great wall sacrificing millions of people to keep themselves free from barbarians.Look at our history if are ancestors had build walls at khyber & bolon passes today indian history would have been different. Today they are executing their anti social & anti nationals to keep their independance intact.When Indians will learn all these??
RE:Chines are practicale
by sidhu on Apr 15, 2008 12:09 PM Permalink
Dear Ram.
Iam amazed by the poor knowledge that you have regarding India.
Please improve ur Chinese English . Chinese kille any language during usage ..and u too are doing that..like u have written ,, "PRACTICALE" and "ARE" instead of "OUR".
Regrading the wall,,,if u appreciate the love for architecture,,India has much more than that "Protective device". Hope you know about the TajMahal..which symbolises LOVE in world level..succeds architecture in true sense.
On top of that ,,Indians are brave hearted enough to plunge into any danger.India was invaded greater number of times,,compared to chinese.
Does not your history book contain about the Indo-China war?? The support of Maoist activites comes form none other than China. The main motto of chinese goods that they produce damages economy of any country. Quality,,its the classless. Perhaps NOBLE winning for their malfunctioning.
An honest advice, learn about India first . India was ,,is ,,and will always be a world teacher.
RE:Chines are practicale
by ram mas on Apr 15, 2008 12:40 PM Permalink
sidhu - I am not appriciating chines, I always consider them Enemy of India. You have to learn some thing from your enemy also to defeat invaders.I condider myself true patriot ready to sacrifice at alter of mother India. I wish my motherland to remain free forever.
RE:Chines are practicale
by Mayya Suresh on Apr 15, 2008 11:15 AM Permalink
India is India since 1947. Our ancestors did not live in the present India. We can't blame our ancestors for this. If we want...if India wants, it should do it now.
Centuries back chinese build great wall sacrificing millions of people to keep themselves free from barbarians.Look at our history if are ancestors had build walls at khyber & bolon passes today indian history would have been different. Today they are executing their anti social & anti nationals to keep their independance intact.When Indians will learn all these??
India is a free country. So 1. Salman Khan after killing 5 poor pavement dwellers moves freely and enjoys the company of the prettiest females.. 2. The terrorists ho kill hundreds in the Hyderabad blast move freely. 3. Sanjay Dutt commits one sin after the other continues to enjoy life and marry one woman after the other. 4. Amitabh, the poor farmer, does not pay income tax and continues to enjoy the Government subsidies and privileges of a "Kisaan". 5. Naxalites continue to kill scores of innocent people in AP and Bengal. 6. Murderers like Pappu Yadav and Navjot Sidhu go on to become MLAs and MPs. 7. Moninder Singh Pandher, the monster who killed 41 children in Noida will have the best defence lawyer and will be scott free...The list would go on.......
RE:RE:Two extremes
by sudip majumder on Apr 15, 2008 11:12 AM Permalink
Plus, 1.Pataudi goes on hiding while and reappears 2. Arjun Singh managed 200 crores of palace 3. Manohar Joshi being a school master can manage 400 crores to buy Mall 4. Pawar receiving bribes from Enron project and channeled thru D company 5. Pappu Yadav & Shabuddin rule supreme 6. And Gulam Nabi made the IA his personal property and so is Praful Patel who could spend 50 crores in daughter's wedding 7. Dalit shrestha Paswan spending 2 crore for his marriage 15 years back 8. Mahajan's soul is still gasping for not able to get enough 9. Karunanidhi, jaya and the infamous Gouda - well rule spureme in spite of being corrupt to the hilt 10. And Pranab the other name of Reliance with the bribes This list did not include Sri Lallu as he he above any law and not to mention ALMOST the entire judiciaries because of whom 'the law' became a joke - case in point Nanda, Tanduri, Bhatnagar et all millions others which we hardly come to know
RE:Two extremes
by Demo-crazy on Apr 15, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Why do you conveniently forget Afzal Guru, Bitta Karate and other murderers from Kashmir?
Do u beleive it olympic torch was run through oman without a single interruption????? Why it is simple becuase of the law of governement whoever interrupts govt decisions will be hanged to death
From what we understand Amnesty International says that executions are okay but has "urged that the International Olympic Committee and Olympic athletes press for greater openness about executions by China".