This was bound to happened. Earlier ,the state of Nepal was a Hindu state. You cannot dope the people by the pill of religeon all the time. People want dicipline,transparancy and progress and a corruption free future. This is a wake up call for the hindu zealots and saffronic organizations in India who wants to turn Mother India into a fanatic Hindu State.
RE:Learning Lesson from Nepal
by satyarthi on Apr 15, 2008 11:21 AM Permalink
Cite one example (resolutions, manifesto, etc.,) where "saffronic organisations" in India demanded a HINDU STATE.
RE:Learning Lesson from Nepal
by mahabodhi on Apr 15, 2008 01:11 PM Permalink
From an article by badri Raina 10June 2006- "Long before Jinnah the founder of Pakistan, stipulated that Hindus and Muslims constituted separate %u2018nations,%u2019and asked for a separate muslim State (1940), it was the Hindutva ideologue, Savarkar, who had expressed this theory first(1923). He laid the hypothesis that only those who were both born in India ( pitra bhumi) and bore allegiance to forms of religion %u2018indigenous%u2019 to India ( punya bhumi) could be considered %u2018Indian.%u2019 Muslims and Christians were thus excluded from %u2018Indianness%u2019, since their chief places of worship lay outside the territory of India. Following upon that, Golwalkar, the then RSS chief (or Sarsangchalak) in a pernicious book, We, Our Nationhood(1939), which unabashedly lauded the Nazis for having elevated %u2018race pride%u2019 to unprecedented heights, warned India%u2019s religious minorities in no uncertain terms that unless they learnt to subjugate themselves wholly and without demur to dominant Hindu culture, and venerated Hindu gods, all their rights, including those of citizenship, would be denied them in the stipulated Hindu Rashtra (Hindu theocratic State).
RE:Learning Lesson from Nepal
by satyarthi on Apr 15, 2008 03:00 PM Permalink
Hindu Rastra and hindu state (govt run on Hindu ideology) are two different thing. The former is a DEMOGRAPHIC & CULTURAL concept; the later is a concept relating to theocratic state (like islamic state/ shariayat).
RE:Learning Lesson from Nepal
by Manjula A on Apr 15, 2008 01:36 PM Permalink
If Hindus want to save Hindu Religion, we all should return to worshipin Bholenath, Shivji and come away from all the stupor of worshiping various humans of various times in the forms of Avtars and what not. Pray before Lord Shiva and Mata. Only way to save the Hindu Religion.
RE:Learning Lesson from Nepal
by mumbai on Apr 15, 2008 02:39 PM Permalink
Manju, the name is very sweet. what i wanted tell is that it better consider vishnu also. shivji always get into trouble and vishnu has to come for his help. shivji's romantic inclination is much more. once vishnu saved him from asura shivji on seen vishnu in girl's dress shivji become romantic and you know what happened later. so join vishnu also.
RE:RE:Thamil Eelam Independence=Kosovo by United Ntions
by ramabhadranS on Apr 15, 2008 10:45 AM Permalink
A Mad man's irrelevant utterances. I do not think this man has read the article to post an appropriate comment on the subject matter. Rediff moderator should delete this type of irrelevant comments.
RE:RE:RE:Thamil Eelam Independence=Kosovo by United Ntions
by mahabodhi on Apr 15, 2008 12:42 PM Permalink
Rediff posts all kind of news in the forum!but it is seen that WHAT EVER THE ISSUE THE MESSAGES TURN INTI BASHING OF EITHER COMMIES WHETHER THE ISSUE IS RELEVANT OR NOT!OR THE SOME ZEALOT MEMBERS TURN THIS INTO MOUTH ORGAN OF REACTIONARY FORCES!AND ULTIMATELY WHAT EVER THE ISSUE SOME ZEALOT MEMBERS MAKE AND TURN IN TO THE COMMUNAL DIVIDE ISSUE!
Nepal's army raised in the model of the British Indian Army said it refuses to accept former communist rebels into its ranks while they remain ``politically motivated, affiliated and indoctrinated,'' a move that may delay the Himalayan nation's peace process.
They cannot be integrated into the army as of now,'' Ramindra Chhetri, director of army public relations, said in an interview in the capital, Kathmandu. ``They need to be disarmed, de-mobilized, rehabilitated and reintegrated and diavow any allegiance to the Maoist party also they need to pass the army fitness,intelligence and ethics test.''
No self respecting army would want these hoodlums in their ranks.
RE:Maoists hit their first roadblock:
by mahabodhi on Apr 15, 2008 11:16 AM Permalink
you write BRITISH INDIAN ARMY!you are still living in the british period!So u think that British were GOOD!So you want them back!as u say thier method role models were Excellant!I find ur messges all over Rediff !You seem to have a lot of energy and resources to write all that ur bosses Reactionary forces want!But as I said in the past messages please understand!That WE R NOT HERE FOR COMMIES WHO R ALSO BOURGEIOSE LIKE YOU BUT FOR THE PROLETRAUTE RULE/SOCILISM /MARXISM WHICH ORIGINATED IN THE WEST AND MADE THEM MODERN SUPER POWER!AND REMEBER THAT NOW THE REACTIONARY FORCES ,BOURGEIOSE AND KULAK CAN NOT STOP THE MARCH OF SOCILISM FOR THE POOR AND NOT ONLY FOR FEW ELITE SUCH AS YOU SUCH AS WITNESSED IN NEHRU ERA!THE MARCH OF SOCILISM ERA FOR POOR INDIANS WHO HAVE BEEN DEPRIVED FOR CENTURIES HAS BEGAN AND THEY WILL NOT REST THE GOAL OF ACHIEVING THEIR RIGHTS AS HUMANS AND FACILITIES WHICH ARE AT PRESENT IN THE PRESENT INDIA PREROGATIVE OF THE FEW BE ALSO MADE AVAILABLE TO THE POOR INDIANS!EITHER STOP SENDING UR CHILDERN TO USA OR EVEN CHINA FOR STUDIES!IF U WANT A/C THEN LET POOR HAVE ATLEAST FAN! NOW REATIONARY INSIDIOUS FORCES CAN NOTR STP THE MARCH OF SOCILISM /MARXISM IN THE SUBCONTINENT FOR THE MENEFIT OF THE POORS OF SUBCONTINENT!
RE:Maoists hit their first roadblock:
by Vishnu Sharma on Apr 15, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
Idiot ! Learn History first. The Indian Army of today has traditions going back to British Times. Most of the Regiments and colors we have were raised by them. Even the Academy in Dehradun was started by them. By Participating in WWI and WWII in France, Iraq and Burma, North Africa and Italy it gained experience. That does not mean that the Indian Army DOES NOT Honor the sacrifices of Subhash Chandra Bose's INA. The INA soldiers are also honored.
The song for the passing out parade is always "Kadam Kadam Badhaye Ja".
About 400 Armed Nepali Maoists belonging to Young Communist League of Nepal entered the Indian side of international border on Wednesday and raised anti-India slogans in Champawat district of Uttarakhand.
Police said the Maoists, both men and women in the age group of 18-25, were accompanied by two Nepal MPs of Nepal Communist Party. They were protesting against what they alleged encroachment of their land on the other side of the border by Indians.
Champawat SP Mohan Singh Bangyal told TOI that the intrusion took place around 7.30 am when paramilitary forces were patrolling the porous border. Bangyal said the Maoists also tried to go towards pillar No 3 near Banbasa town in Champawat to hoist the party flag but Seema Suraksha Bal personnel and Uttarakhand authorities foiled their attempts. They went on to raise anti-India slogans near a dam on Sharda river.
They blame us for encroaching on their land and covet our land in Uttaranchal. Prachanda will get a lot of prodding and encouragement from the chinese to make trouble in Uttaranchal. Essentially this will help the chinese seize Arunachal Pradesh.
The Indian Airforce need to be ready to bomb Kathmandu back to the stone Age if they try their stupid chinese inspired tactics with us.
RE:Trouble has already started in Uttaranchal as I had predicted.
by san man on Apr 15, 2008 08:26 AM Permalink
Stone Age would be an improvement for these animals.
The ultimate aim of these subhumans is the total destruction of peace and democracy in the Indian subcontinent.
Korea, Vietnam, Mongolia, Cambodia, Laos. These were small fry when compared to the giant Indian state. The chinese are now focussed on the total obliteration of India and her culture.
They will fail in their efforts !! Mark my words.
In this titanic clash of Asian civilizations. One will utterly perish and its people will be exterminated and it WILL NOT be NATIONAL DEMOCRATIC INDIA.
RE:chinese designs --> Utmost evil. (These are the most evil people on Earth)
by Vijay B on Apr 15, 2008 04:51 AM Permalink
It is not so straightforward. There are corrupt politicians and almost a billion freeloaders in our country, who want everything for free, want power without effort or responsibility, and can never stand others doing well and will pull them down by the most crooked possible means.
With such people around only it is possible for Chinese to do such things.
The ultimate aim of the chinese is to destroy the prosperity of all nations of Asia.
Chengiz Khans statement:The saying "It's not enough that I succeed, everyone else must fail and be destroyed"
Runs true in the veins of these arch enemies of civilization. Look around china's borders and you will find that they have stuck their stinky fingers into the affairs of every country around them turning them into basket cases.
They first launched headlong into the Korean war in 1950 and were responsible for creating the failed state of North Korea when in reality you could have a really prosperous United Korea which would have been an economic threat to china. Millions of Koreans have been seperated from their families and are starving in North Korea as a result. North Korea is a basket case as every one knows.
They barged into South Asia and supported genocidal regimes in both Vietnam and Cambodia resulting in 4 million deaths.
They have parked their dirty feet in Burma and as a result the Burmese are denied democracy.
Now they have targeted the Indian Subcontinent giving missiles to Pakistan and bringing to power a murderous maoist clique in the tranquil Hindu kingdom of Nepal.
They have Ruined Mongolia also. No country in mainland Asia has been spared china's wrath.
They barged into Tibet and enslaved and murdered 2 million people.
I hope the chinese suffer the most excrutiating and horrible end for their continuous bad Karma 900 million chinese deaths are not enough !
RE:chinese designs --> Utmost evil. (These are the most evil people on Earth)
by ramabhadranS on Apr 15, 2008 10:52 AM Permalink
I have to add one more thing. Now Lanka President Mahinda Rajapakse is on a visit to China.May be he will procure arms for the war against the rebels and, in turn, pave way for the chinese to land in Shri Lanka. Another threat from southern border.(However, that does not mean that India will have to support LTTE which would be a total disaster.)
Maoists can cause unrepairable damage of Nepal. So far it was poor nation with fate hanging between kind and some party. Now it has gone straight in hand of devils. Nepali think that Maoists have solution for Nepal. They live in illusion. Dont realise simple fact that Maosits are violant party whose main principle is to use violance to rule. Which country is gonna have relation with Nepal. the big boss America treat maoists as terrorist organisation. So does India. Only thig maoist would focus on is to develop a parellel army so they could rule Nepal for next 50 years. Only chines army would be very happy with this result. They would help maiosts with arms and ammunition to rule Nepal fully. Nepali have no idea how Dangerous futur they have.
RE:Nepal should start worrying about its future.
by Neta Mafia Don on Apr 15, 2008 02:32 PM Permalink
Knowing all these facts then also Nepalies elected Communists . Just imagine how much mistrust and anger thy might be having against USa and Insia. India and USa did nothing to help them out earlier and now they are opposing the verdict given by Nepalis. Balnt hypocrats. Both India dn USa and all those so called elite countries who didnt helped Nepal at its time of need has to be blamed for this.
RE:Nepal should start worrying about its future.
by Neta Mafia Don on Apr 15, 2008 02:35 PM Permalink
Knowing all these facts then also Nepalies elected Communists . Just imagine how much mistrust and anger thy might be having against USA and India. India and USA did nothing to help them out earlier and now they are opposing the verdict given by Nepalis. Balent hypocrats. Both India and USA and all those so called democratic champions who didnt helped Nepal at its time of need has to be blamed for this.
