All citation and translation of Ramayana from various work of fiction, Novel, Imaginary tale, creative writing, literature. Research wing of RSS and Hindu fundamentalist organizations who are spreading myths all over world should not taken as fact because they are doing this business since many decades specially after independence. There is not Hindu religion and Idol worshipers world over cannot be treated as Hindu because in various part of the world since beginning of civilization idol worshiping was trend such as Pyramids in Egypt, Inca and Maya civilizations and African Tribes are idol worshipers do not mean all are Hindu. Similarly in India majority of people worship different idols which are no t matching to the so called popular idol gods because each tribe and sect has their own idol which is worshiped during social rituals such as birth, death, celebrations, marriages, etc they are not these so called mythological idols such as- Shankar, Vishnu, Brahma, Ganesh, and like many identified from the tale of imaginary stories. The word %u201CHindus%u201D is concept ofspecifically is Brahmin caste from the north India who spread many parts of India like %u201CBhaiyya%u201D being instrument of mobilization of some rituals and idol worshiping and spread of %u201CRamayana Story Telling Art Form, Mahabharata Story Telling Art Form, and then playing drama and classical dancing and musical recital based on this Ramayana and Mahabharat makes this tale more popular.
RE:Myth Buster
by Bhajiya on Apr 14, 2008 03:55 PM Permalink
But that does not mean these stories were part of historic act or lived by true human being not at all. This is witnessed only after independence the Brahmin forces branded and sold them and spread in the name of culture, art, history, mythology and as much as they could do in spreading myth to the people of India and it was neither recognized nor rejected and in the dormant state because of harmony nature of society which predominantly idol worshiping there was no harm to another sect of same idol believers. But today this seems to be game plan to establish to as one religion and gathering under one codification of word %u201CHindu%u201D is absolutely myth and bogus knowledge about Indian civilization and ethnicity and respect to their existence as independent identity for idol worshiping outside branded idols from this stories as leading idols for worshiping is taking advantage of public%u2019s reverence to Brahmin culture in last 60 years. Every Indian community has their own KULDEVATA and idols for performing rituals which is not this so called modern days SYMBOLIC GODS from story books.
RE:Myth Buster
by Chaman Lal on Apr 14, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
Your bheja is actually is a bhajiya... that explains all the non sensical explanation put fwd..
RE:Myth Buster
by sanjay choudhry on Apr 14, 2008 04:09 PM Permalink
Which religion is actually based on scientific facts? Does a dead body come alive after three days and flies? Get your head out of your backside.
thanks to rediff and Satya palji for bringing out such an enlightening us.Could someone please arrange a printout of this to be sent to the ministers in Delhi who rule the country?
Last but not the least I appreciate the scholarly accumen of Dr.Satya pal singhji.I can see another Tarun Vijay in the making.
In event of last year%u2019s controversy about RAM setu. I was speaking to one of my friend%u2019s dad, he said this karunanidhi will tell next that %u201C He does not have father%u201D; so will we believe him?. We do not need proof from anyone about Ram. Also last year BBC was showing series about India and they mentioned, if anyone need to understand India, first they should understand RAM and Ramayan as Indian life revolves around RAM and his life. RAM is India and India is RAM. JAI SHREE RAM.
RE:Absolulety amazing
by amith choradia on Apr 14, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Don't just oppose for sake of opposing. If you want to oppose, give proofs of your statements.
RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by rambhakt agrawal on Apr 14, 2008 03:58 PM Permalink
Mr. BHAJIYA, KINDLY GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND STOP USING PASTE & CUT. SHOWS YOUR REAL INTENTION.
RE:RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by aus ant on Apr 14, 2008 04:02 PM Permalink
Pls excuse the OBC Bhajiya. He had very deep inferiority complex. He can only copy-paste. He has no originality, whatsoever. He blames his incompetence on other communities.
RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by Bhajiya on Apr 14, 2008 03:44 PM Permalink
But that does not mean these stories were part of historic act or lived by true human being not at all. This is witnessed only after independence the Brahmin forces branded and sold them and spread in the name of culture, art, history, mythology and as much as they could do in spreading myth to the people of India and it was neither recognized nor rejected and in the dormant state because of harmony nature of society which predominantly idol worshiping there was no harm to another sect of same idol believers. But today this seems to be game plan to establish to as one religion and gathering under one codification of word %u201CHindu%u201D is absolutely myth and bogus knowledge about Indian civilization and ethnicity and respect to their existence as independent identity for idol worshiping outside branded idols from this stories as leading idols for worshiping is taking advantage of public%u2019s reverence to Brahmin culture in last 60 years. Every Indian community has their own KULDEVATA and idols for performing rituals which is not this so called modern days SYMBOLIC GODS from story books.
RE:RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by Sheetal Kaur on Apr 14, 2008 07:24 PM Permalink
What is abusive about Bhajiya's posting. You Bunch of rediff Morons.
RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by Bhajiya on Apr 14, 2008 03:51 PM Permalink
I say this is story book and not GOD concept. You canot force people to accept them as GOD they were charactors of story book imaginary tale famus as novel. nothing else. this is conspiricy to brand them as repressentative of Hindu God. is criminal and attack on the existance of other indian idol worshipsers right and recognizition and believes
RE:RE:Bogus Myth Spreading is Conspiracy Against Majority Indians
by Rationalist on Apr 14, 2008 03:54 PM Permalink
Where has the author told it is about GOd?Ramayan need not be a God concept.But we need to try to extact history from it.
The name of Ram was there 100 years, 200 years ago and 1000 years ago as well...
Because Comrades says that Ram doesn't exist, doesn't mean that we will stop seeing Ramayana.
Comrades are the new animals in current Bharat and their death is not far away. While going to death bed, they surely would say "Hey Ram"... like Yetury father says SitaRam.
RE:No need to reinvent the wheel
by chetan kotur on Apr 14, 2008 03:42 PM Permalink
lol.. well said.. communist hv no religion..thats y they perish.. history has proven this..
Nobody has discovered the bones of Mohammad , but they all believe he existed. People also say Jesus Christ existed ! The hadiths which describe Mohammad's life are taken to be true. But for some strange reason Hindu Puranas are not considered authentic.
RE:What is historical proof for Jesus and Mohammad ?
by Sheetal Kaur on Apr 14, 2008 07:17 PM Permalink
No body is saying that Hindu Puranas are not considered authentic Harry VanDeusan. Ofcourse they are authentic. Bible have several versions and most of the Christians don't believe in it at all, churches are closing fast( I know at least 10 Churches in London alone which have closed there doors to Christianity they have been either a Hindu temple or Sikh Gurudwaras one can not tell if it was church once and Christians don't care they haven't got time for it. I also know about a church that has been converted to a living accommodation. Koran and other Muslim religious books are also not original there are many versions floating about. The only things is that Muslims are afraid of there mullahs who might put a fatwa on them for blasphemy against the Koran(you see and read all this virtually every day).That is why they don't speak a word against it. Hindus,Sikhs etc are tolerant religions we don't go out and start killing just because some one has expressed his/her views. The latest incidence in Pakistan where a hindu was beaten to death for expressing his views on Islam. We don't do that kind of thing we educate the person the right and wrong of it. To believe in it or not is then left to them, we don't beat the living daylight out just for not believing and expressing ones view. That is why the authenticity of our scripts are under scrutiny all the time,it is not that they are not true of course they are true, at least we believe they are. It is just that we are very tolera
RE:RE:What is historical proof for Jesus and Mohammad ?
by Sheetal Kaur on Apr 14, 2008 07:20 PM Permalink
Cont from above:- tolerant people we like to live in peace and let live in peace. But one thing that we don't tolerate is taking advantage of our good nature, then we can also be vicious.
