RE:great verdict
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:45 AM Permalink
son of cow's waste is what arjun singh is and his ideas are forcing India 100yrs behind the world...
RE:RE:great verdict
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:57 AM Permalink
My comments matter to anal all like you...
I am not angry, my stomach is full just that i feel bad for the modern generation who has to look back in history every time they see this half dead arjun with his always 'bhuki janta' with big tummies...
RE:great verdict
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:50 AM Permalink
at least have guts to show your real name u muftanand...! "tax main bharu aur muft ka ladoo tu khaye?"
RE:great verdict
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
Don't add useless comments. If you wish to debate then come up with logical statements. Who is arjun singh or whatever that is not mattering here. if you wanna solution then come with proper logical ideas
Proposed Solution by on Apr 11, 2008 12:27 AM | Hide replies
I propose the solution for the problem of reservation. We all should leave our caste, we should leave using our caste. We have to stop using caste in any phase of our life from the birth till death. No use of caste, while we go for marriage. No use of caste, while we go for education. No use of caste in any phase of life. As there will not be word showing our caste then surely this reservation system will die. But if you are agreeing for this then first of all leave the caste from your name. Don't preech others, if you got a courage then show that courage. While we go for marriage and other important phase of life we used to search for our community. Why if you are against of reservation then stop searching for your community or caste. Why a bangalis or south indians are always moving in groups. It's not the government that is responsible. We ourself is responsible for such kind of problem. Solution is lying in our hand, it's not with goverment.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by Gopal Krishna on Apr 11, 2008 01:01 AM Permalink
just visit shaadi or bharatmatrinomy, most marriages these days are driven by caste. caste is part of hinduism, it has been and it will be....in the past it was used to discriminate and it is only fair that the same criteria be used to foster equality.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:44 AM Permalink
Might you are right but north indians are never so rigid for their friend circle. However this tendency is more in south and bangali people. I am not commenting on my mindset etc, i am just telling you my observations in life.
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:46 AM Permalink
OHhhhhhh comeon He is not living in the same era that we are living now. I am telling this solution to all those, who are against or favour of reservation. Next time don't use your caste anywhere in your life. If you wanna get over this problem. If you use then don't blame this policy.
RE:RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 12:50 AM Permalink
Your solution is your experience, it might be brainwashed by anglized mentality... I can say this because i have been through that experience... The caste system is the greatest system in the universe.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:54 AM Permalink
Oh really then let us follow the caste system. Don't speak against of reservation then as we are responsible for this reservation system.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:16 AM Permalink
I am speaking behalf of Indian constitution compiled by the so called dalit.. Reservation were to last for 10 year.. In other words, only until 1960. Caste system is not practiced, It is "is". I can trust a vaishya whose utmost concern is to make money through business, but not a casteless moron whose behaviour can not be assessed... Bring it on, Congress has alienated the middle class.. Now they will face the music..
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by Surya on Apr 11, 2008 12:55 AM Permalink
deepak
we think its the worst system in the world....lol if you want to debate on logical grounds you can with me .....if not shutup and drink in what your guru says
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:18 AM Permalink
Who cares what you think.. If you have guts, name your Jaat... I shall bring out your contribution to Indian society, and what you were doing under the mughals, and British babus... Mughals and British people left, but your remained an eslaved person mentally
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by gac on Apr 11, 2008 12:46 AM Permalink
the resentment will come only from the so called upper caste ppl where they cant get their children married outside their caste. leave alone marriage most of the upper caste ppl dont want to reside in a mixed society residential complex fearing their children will get mied with other caste children .
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
Why should i leave my caste, and take responsibility of the acts of moron in other castes? why should i suffer identity crisis of myself, when i can be more morally responsible because of my caste. I have never discriminated anyone, then, Why i should sacrifices for crimes of other.. Keep your advice to yourself.. I say this because i recongized the essence of caste system.. Unlike you, i got rid of the indo-anglized mentality of foreigner thought.. It is time to be an India... Just respect caste, do not discriminate.. As not all the organs in the body of same size, and do same activities, likewise, are castes in society. It was our caste system, that stopped communism annhailing our society... It is time to recognize that Indians have its peculiar institution, and we ought to respect them... Afterall, it is india, where there is a continuity of Civilization. There has never been revolution of tom dick and harry that brings chaos.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by gac on Apr 11, 2008 12:49 AM Permalink
ha.. here we got a true upper caste in midst of the pseudo secularist upper caste crowd.
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by Surya on Apr 11, 2008 12:59 AM Permalink
hindusim is a indus-iran... based as tru sons of soil we reject foreign religions
RE:RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:35 AM Permalink
"Surya"
you are really a drying breed... Few more years, and you will be squeezed out by the intelligence of the masses.. No more anti-brahminism be allowed.. commies will be shipped back to middle east, where Muslims can take care of them as they know best... Colonial pet dogs called dravidians will be overtaken by Proud tamil people.. So tell us w here would you go...
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by nilesh babu on Apr 11, 2008 12:52 AM Permalink
Your thinking is not fit for modern era. Each Human needs to be respected with equal rights. It's clear that you mean by organs, some are used for carrying shit, others for thinking. This mindset does not make you Morally superior. It is inhuman and immoral mindset.
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:23 AM Permalink
oh Nilesh babu
You mean when you started wearing pants instead of Dhoti, you became modern... talking about equal rights, where are the rights of people who scored highest, but had to face music of reservation because some moron with half the scores had a reserve seat... Again, Government should take care of primary education, and leave the other part to committed people... As for myself, i would not government be my nanny... I have only said i can be more moral because of my caste, than not knowing my caste.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:52 AM Permalink
Listen my dear friend I am not forcing you to leave your caste. However, we all will start using the same caste as yours. I don't have any problem in changing my caste to yours. The name of caste if makes a person responsible then all big frauds are done by so called upper caste. I am not blaming anyone, i am just advocating the solution for this problem.
RE:New solution to reservation problem
by gac on Apr 11, 2008 01:01 AM Permalink
we have very simple solution like making common education system, make all school centralized and no different syllabus where without any caste/ economical/ religion difference every children from a locality should go to the school in same locality. probably in 2 generations we can abolish reservation.
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:33 AM Permalink
that is called collectivism, and is the worst of all system... You mean if government manipulates the system, we should all be part of that system.. Centralization is the worst of human system, for it brings corruption, and not to mention the infiliteration.. Commies would precisely like this system, for that makes it easy for them to infiliterate....
RE:RE:New solution to reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:31 AM Permalink
Nobody can chase my caste anyway, and least the government... Now come next election, Congress will face the music, not because it failed the society, but because it divided the society.. I personally do not need government as my Nanny. Now if you want reservation, then, you should also put a tag of your jaat, so we can determine your morality. Before any other jaat, it would be his own jaat questioning him. That is how you get sensible morality out of people...
If you think reservation will do any good, think again. In India only 20 % of graduates are employable. That means only 20% graduate get job what they want. Open category is still 50 % open. This verdict will create further biased in Private sector. Their are very few Govt. Jobs So OBCs will have degree but no job. On other side all Open category student will be easily absorbed in work force.
Also ,Their is no dearth of private engg, and medical college. Plus I heard foriegn company are coming in education sector. They will directly train your so called merit guys and export them (this is what happening in AIIMS). You guys won't loose anything technically, Only looser will be OBCs.
RE:Myths of reservation
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:40 AM Permalink
why can't you suggest to put restrictions on open category and keep only 10% for open category and rest for BC, OBC, SC, ST Muslim christians and what not?
RE:Myths of reservation
by on Apr 11, 2008 12:43 AM Permalink
Because reservation is given in proportionate to the population my dear friend. It's not given on useless basis. If the community belonging to particular caste in proportion to their total population is representing in less percentage to their population then only the facility of reservation is given. However the real problem is the applicability of this policy.
Proposed Solution by on Apr 11, 2008 12:27 AM | Hide replies
I propose the solution for the problem of reservation. We all should leave our caste, we should leave using our caste. We have to stop using caste in any phase of our life from the birth till death. No use of caste, while we go for marriage. No use of caste, while we go for education. No use of caste in any phase of life. As there will not be word showing our caste then surely this reservation system will die. But if you are agreeing for this then first of all leave the caste from your name. Don't preech others, if you got a courage then show that courage. While we go for marriage and other important phase of life we used to search for our community. Why if you are against of reservation then stop searching for your community or caste. Why a bangalis or south indians are always moving in groups. It's not the government that is responsible. We ourself is responsible for such kind of problem. Solution is lying in our hand, it's not with goverment.
RE:Solution of reservation problem
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:41 AM Permalink
all of us will agree to it but so called opportunist lower cast people will not give away easy fruits of reservation...
RE:Solution of reservation problem
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:42 AM Permalink
Even among lower castes, they would be taken by the dominated lord.. Solution lies not in squeezing out capable people, but expanding the base...
RE:Good Verdict
by Milind on Apr 11, 2008 12:42 AM Permalink
more then upper cast manu is in the minds of people like surya, good for nothing but want to hide behind reservation and pick at so called upper class...
RE:RE:Good Verdict
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:04 AM Permalink
If they actually knew what is said in Manusmriti, wouldn't they have gotten moksha already.
RE:Good Verdict
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:00 AM Permalink
Caste system is the greatest system in the entire universe.. But we need to wipe out is anglized Indians we are born to hate indian institutions. Indian manages itself pretty well with so much diversity... It is just that there are few trouble making politicians, and angalized indians whose fathers have left from where they came from, but left their breed behind. Man You can trust a Brahmin, you can trust a vaishya that he will always go for money, you can trust a khsatiya, for always looking out for commonwealth of the society, you can trust shudra to be best of best in what he does, but you can never trust a casteless moron, and his action. He is like a lost astroid free of any gravitational projected dharma..
RE:Let us Create OBS country
by Ravi on Apr 11, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
laveena yadav I am afraid that is not the solution. I hope you know Buddhism was found in India. Between 5th and 10th century Buddhism was flourishing to no bounds(Go watch ajantha ellora). So called Brahmins drove them to other parts of the world by bloody wars and only at that time brahmins became vegitarians. We are poorly educated about hindu history. So fight it out till you get equality and a brahmin agrees that you are as educated and wise as him and perhaps he proposes and you fall in love wih him
RE:Let us Create OBS country
by deepak on Apr 11, 2008 01:10 AM Permalink
Yea, and when Muslim hordes will come as was the case in Afghanistan in 9th and 10th century, you buddhists will be no more. Tibet survived because of Hindus put an end to Islamic hordes... BY the way, Paki sullah under Yadev name, Yadevs belong to Kshatriya tribe... Before Lalu came to scene, Yadev used to kick Muslims where it hurt them the most... Yadevs are led by wrong leadership, but Yadev is a strong community with deep hatred for Muslims...
RE:Let us Create OBS country
by Skype net on Apr 11, 2008 12:47 AM Permalink
Go! you moron. You type of weak mentality bas*rds not required for our religion Convert right now. Conversion is possible, surya dont know properly, But Surya wont come with you, he wont get reservation if he is non-hindu. So he is safe being a low ccast hindu!
Trivedi(means learned person in three vedas but your language does not reflect that), Youth of India also includes 400 million Oppressed people(majority youth). Have you ever thought about that? Can you attempt to come out of the extreme narrow minded thinking?
RE:Kris Trivedi, what a beautiful name
by gac on Apr 11, 2008 12:34 AM Permalink
"Trivedi(means learned person in three vedas but your language does not reflect that)" probably thats the reason y he's talking like that...
RE:Kris Trivedi, what a beautiful name
by Kris Trivedi on Apr 11, 2008 01:33 AM Permalink
ARREE NILES BABUA, BURA MAAN GAYE KA? I am brahmin by birth but i am like Parshuram. Meaning in shudh hindi ij JANAM SE BRAHMAN AUR KARM SE KSHATRIYA... Abbhhi Samaj aya hamari language kya kya reflect karti hai. Khud ke hak ke liye ladne walo ko extremist nahi kehta freedom fighter kehte hai... BAPU FOUGHT FOR OUR FREEDOM ofcourse it was non violent...BUT... BUT.. BUT TODAY'S YOUTH IS NOT BAPUUUU. WE R ALL BHAGAT SINGH...EK DHAMAKA HOGO TO HAMARI BAAT SUNI JAYEGI
