In this blog I can see many muslims talking much. Remember one thing, this is India, Not seperated on the basis of Hindu religion, but Pakistan demand was for Muslim country, if you talk so much, why you or your grand fathers stayed back in India. If you support Muslim Muslim only why you did not move to Pakistan.
Now if you did not move atleast dont talk bad about India. 80% or 70% whatever Hindus are in India they are in majority but still Muslim, Christian live with respect in India. So why Muslim start abusing Hindus, why they forget majority is still not attacking them.
RE:Talking too much
by Syed Adil Umair on Apr 09, 2008 03:33 PM Permalink
Dear vinu, I respect your intention behind the post. But just give it a little thougt and read a little bit of history.
- was it possible to divide this country in to 2 parts without agreement from the both sides? - Why did sardar vallabh bhai patel said "ek paon dhoti men aur dusra pajame men nahi ho sakta."(one can not have one leg in dhoti 'hindu dress' and other in pajama 'muslim dress')?. - why did Maulana Abul Kalam Azad did not sign the agreement of Partition?
I restpect it wen u said majority is not attacking us. But in the same way why you people blame all the Muslims infact Islam when only few muslims are involved in terrorism and other crimnal activities?
are Naxals Mao LTTE RSS VHP and Modi govt. not Terrorists? would you like to treated on the basis of what they have done?
RE:Talking too much
by Syed Adil Umair on Apr 09, 2008 03:49 PM Permalink
One more thing dear Vinu, Please keep an eye on the blogs here (any blog) and look carefully who abuses who.
Great news. It seems lawyers in India and Pakistan are so alike. Some time back, there was a news of lawyers in Varanasi beating up the Sankat Mocham blast accused; though not to death. May be Indian lawyers have to improve on that count.
Many Mullahs in this posting has asked me to embrace Islam, I have sympathy towards those Islamic donkeys or criminals or hybrid of both.
Yes I do agree with you and understand your thoughts.
I can only say I am not a donkey I would never like to be under the clutches of useless and worthless barbaric animal like laws. I can never think even that any Islamic joker like Mullah, Maulvi can teach me as I am highly educated as per world standard even, I hold 2 professional Masters level Degree awarded by recognized Universities / institutions. My living standard is far superior, be it hygiene or otherwise. I would like to remain human and would never like to be untouchable and come under suspicion and scanner And the series is endless And above I would never like to be a criminal under, be it merciless murder, be it marrying to own daughter, be it targeting non-Muslim innocent girls (again the series is endless) in the name and cover of God or what you call Allah.
I think these reasons are enough. A normal man always wants to uplift himself.
RE:Why I can not think even to be Muslim
by Syed Adil Umair on Apr 09, 2008 03:07 PM Permalink
holding 2 or 200 degrees can not make u a good human being.
Laden, Al Jawahiri, Pranchanda(Mao), Parbhakaran(LTTE) are well educated morons who kill innocents.
you are no less than these crimnals.
you are one of the Educated TRAITOR who is blind and deaf from seeing and hearing truth.
RE:Why I can not think even to be Muslim
by Syed Adil Umair on Apr 09, 2008 02:42 PM Permalink
This the answer for your post 'Freelancer' ...
Dear Indian, I dont know how u call urself an indian. you must be a hindu then ofcourse you have got the right of being an indian. But in reality, people with mind like yours are biggest traitors who want to divide india not only two parts but many.
Lets face the reality dear,
I am not talking about the rest of the world's muslims, Lets do a simple calculation,
-Muslims in Gujrat in 2001 4.46 Million -Muslims murdered by Gujrat CM and Administration lets say 20,000 instead of 2000 what the govt say. (They Murdered 20,000 muslims that too after using all the administration and forces wth all planning.) -Muslims in India in 2001 150 Million. -Number of people killed in WW II avg 40-60 Million.
Now even if you dream to the extent being Mungerilal, you will have to wake up to face the reality.
And the realily is, if people like u will be there in this society they would never ever be able to remove the muslim population(America could not do it in Iraq and Afghnistan).
You will only end up dividing this country into many parts YOU TRAITOR.
JUST PRAY TO THE GOD THAT ALL INDIANS(SPECIALLY MUSLIMS) DO NOT THINK AS YOU ARE THINKING COS THAT WOULD BE THE WORST DAY OF OUR HISTORY
ELDORADO, Texas - A polygamist compound with hundreds of children was rife with sexual abuse, child welfare officials allege in court documents, with girls spiritually married to much older men as soon as they reached puberty and boys groomed to perpetuate the cycle.
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The documents released Tuesday also gave details about the hushed phone calls that
triggered the raid, by a 16-year-old girl at the West Texas ranch who said her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her. Days after raiding the compound, officials still aren't sure where the girl is.
Officials have completed removing all 416 children from the ranch and have won custody of all of them, Child Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner told reporters in San Angelo, about 40 miles from the compound in Eldorado.
Court documents said a number of teen girls at the 1,700-acre compound were pregnant, and that all the children were removed on the grounds that they were in danger of "emotional, physical, and-or sexual abuse." Another 139 women left on their own.
"Investigators determined that there is a widespread pattern and practice of the (Yearn for Zion) Ranch in which young, minor female residents are conditioned to expect and accept sexual activity with adult men at the ranch upon being spiritually married to them," read the affidavit signed by Lynn McFadden, a Department of Family and Protective Services investigative supervisor.
ELDORADO, Texas - A polygamist compound with hundreds of children was rife with sexual abuse, child welfare officials allege in court documents, with girls spiritually married to much older men as soon as they reached puberty and boys groomed to perpetuate the cycle.
ADVERTISEMENT
The documents released Tuesday also gave details about the hushed phone calls that
triggered the raid, by a 16-year-old girl at the West Texas ranch who said her 50-year-old husband beat and raped her. Days after raiding the compound, officials still aren't sure where the girl is.
Officials have completed removing all 416 children from the ranch and have won custody of all of them, Child Protective Services spokeswoman Marleigh Meisner told reporters in San Angelo, about 40 miles from the compound in Eldorado.
Court documents said a number of teen girls at the 1,700-acre compound were pregnant, and that all the children were removed on the grounds that they were in danger of "emotional, physical, and-or sexual abuse." Another 139 women left on their own.
"Investigators determined that there is a widespread pattern and practice of the (Yearn for Zion) Ranch in which young, minor female residents are conditioned to expect and accept sexual activity with adult men at the ranch upon being spiritually married to them," read the affidavit signed by Lynn McFadden, a Department of Family and Protective Services investigative supervisor.
Patrick Peranteau, lawyer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment Tuesday.
An unknown number of men and women church members were at the ranch while authorities completed the search of the gleaming 80-foot-high temple, a cheese-making plant, a cement plant, a school, a doctor's office and housing units. Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety, said Tuesday the adults were not being held, but if they left the compound, they could not return while the search continued.
At least two FBI agents were seen entering the back entrance of the temple on Tuesday.
Spokesmen for the FBI and DPS declined to comment.
The compound was raided Thursday after the 16-year-old girl called a local family violence shelter March 29 and 30, using someone else's cell phone and speaking in hushed tones to avoid being overheard, McFadden's affidavit said.
The girl said she was not allowed to leave the compound unless she was ill. She told the shelter that her husband would "beat and hurt" her when he got angry, including hitting her in the chest and choking her while another woman in the house held her baby.
The girl also said her husband sexually assaulted her, and that she was several weeks pregnant. The girl told the shelter her husband went to "the outsiders' world" but didn't know where.
Authorities have issued an arrest warrant for church member Dale Barlow, who is beli
RE:It Happen only in US who do policing of world and spread hate camp
by Indian on Apr 09, 2008 01:28 PM Permalink
"Investigators determined that there is a widespread pattern and practice of the (Yearn for Zion) Ranch in which young, minor female residents are conditioned to expect and accept sexual activity with adult men at the ranch upon being spiritually married to them," read the affidavit signed by Lynn McFadden, a Department of Family and Protective Services investigative supervisor.
McFadden said the girls were spiritually married to the men as soon as they reached puberty and were required to produce children.
Patrick Peranteau, lawyer for the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, did not immediately return a phone message seeking comment Tuesday.
An unknown number of men and women church members were at the ranch while authorities completed the search of the gleaming 80-foot-high temple, a cheese-making plant, a cement plant, a school, a doctor's office and housing units. Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety, said Tuesday the adults were not being held, but if they left the compound, they could not return while the search continued.
At least two FBI agents were seen entering the back entrance of the temple on Tuesday.
Spokesmen for the FBI and DPS declined to comment.
The compound was raided Thursday after the 16-year-old girl called a local family violence shelter March 29 and 30, using someone else's cell phone and speaking in hushed tones to avoid being overheard, McFadden's affidavit said.
RE:It Happen only in US who do policing of world and spread hate camp
by Indian on Apr 09, 2008 01:31 PM Permalink
The boys were groomed to be ready to marry underage girls upon adulthood and engage in sexual activity, "resulting in them becoming sexual perpetrators," the affidavit said.
Children in the sect were deprived of food and forced to sit in closed closets as a form of discipline, the affidavit said.
Former members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints predicted an uneasy adjustment to foster care. The children are likely the grandchildren or great-grandchildren of those taken by Arizona authorities 54 years ago in a similar raid.
That raid a half-century ago and the one this week pulled children of polygamist families from the only community and culture they'd ever known - an event that decades later a former community member recalls as traumatizing.
"It was total misery for them," said Ben Bistline, now 72. He was 18 when authorities raided the remote community of Short Creek - now known as the twin towns of Colorado City, Ariz., and Hildale, Utah. Authorities took 200 children into custody as part of an effort to wipe out a "nest of polygamy."
Bistline, who is now a Mormon, was not rounded up in the 1953 raid, but the woman he married later in life was 15 when she and her seven siblings were shipped to Phoenix, pulled from the friends and family who constituted their whole world. Nearly two years passed before they were allowed to return, he said.
Most of the current sect members are descended from families from the Arizona-Utah co
