RE:whats new?
by Harinder Pal Singh on Apr 09, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
Religions are intrinsically violent systems. There is no religion known to man which has not indulged in violence at some point or other. The grades may vary but this is a unique property of so called ' GODS " own words. I guess future species will re interpret religous texts more as 'WAR MANUALS"
RE:whats new?
by balaord on Apr 09, 2008 11:06 PM Permalink
the greatest atrocities were committed by atheists and agonsistics Here is the list Hitler Mousline Stalin Polpot All the above were atheists and agaonstics and brough disasters to humanity. is world war 1 and 2 fought over religion Mr.Singh?
RE:whats new?
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 11:13 PM Permalink
My list of vandals:
Muhammad Abd Manaf ibn Qusai Abd-Shams Ziyad ibn Abi Sufyan Abd al-Malik Muhammad bin quasim slahudin Timur Babbar Akbar Auragnzeb Zia ul Haq ..............List is neverending.....
RE:whats new?
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 11:18 PM Permalink
Mr. bala, the atheists do not kill anybody for availing rewards in an imaginary life here-after. The atheists you have mentioned were autocrats. Have you heard Lord Acton's maxim: Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. That is what it is.
RE:whats new?
by Harinder Singh on Apr 09, 2008 11:35 PM Permalink
HITLER i think was a occult/covet believer in GOD for he selectively targetted "JEWS" for his henious crimes. His actions betray his belief in GOD. I have not read much about stalin , mussolini or polpots to know wha made them inflict such cruelities on fellow humans.
so 2 groups of people fight between themselves over a political issue and all the hi*jda jansanghis gather on this forum to bash Islam which is not involved at all in this riots. It is not in spite of but because of this hatemongers that Islam will continue to grow by leaps and bounds everyday. all the jansanghis a55es must be on fire because of the growing number of muslims in the world.
RE:truth hurts and gets reported for abuse ha ha ha
by on Apr 09, 2008 10:50 PM Permalink
true,muslim will continue to grow,B`COZ SAB ALL KE DEN HAI,U HIZDAS CAN DO NOTHING ABOUT IT
RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 10:38 PM Permalink
I think they r better cuz they dont bomb Kindergarten Schools(beslan), Hospitals&movie theaters (moscow), Trains(madrid &london), stock exchanges (bby), commmercial complexes (twin towers) etc etc etc (sorry the list is so long that it will tk me ages to complete)......i think ill go wid RSS.....what say u jihadi!!!
RE:RE:RE:the truth
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:51 PM Permalink
Vikas...Butttt RSS men burn alive human beings in broad day light...tear their limbs peice by peice...even gang rape a pregnant woman then tore apart her womb and took the foetus on the edge of the sword and dance....sounds very polite and peaceloving....you have good taste for violence...particularly against weak and helpless....
RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by on Apr 09, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
have u ever inquired about how u born mr.,SAB ALLAH KI DEN HAI,tera bap to soya nahi tha teri maa ke sath
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 10, 2008 02:09 AM Permalink
PS: Chapter TRIMZI in quran teaches and trains muslims on ways of kil*ing NON-Muslims (ways which are different form ki*ling muslims), how to slave them, what to do with their women?, their land, their children? Etc etc.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 12:29 AM Permalink
Shinde, your above messege is a good example of your narrow mindedness with preocupied thought pattern...I DID NOT TELL THAT YOU WILL GET GOPIYA IN SWARG...i mentioned it as an open point for making irrelvant comment to hurt your feelings..and i refrained from it...I know what I write...and your ignorance ...needlesss to say...No where in Qoran or tirmizi it is mentioned to kill all non muslims because they are just non muslims...it is "allowed" to kill them if they fight against muslims for wrong cause...and try to opress them....and there is no " chapter tirmizi" in koran...one more example of your "well fed knowledge"...and you might have asked to any emotional youth or illetrate mullah to confirm to your filthy accusations and he might have told you as per his perception...for example..there are lots of guys in this blog who are crossed all ehtical limits to abuse muslims and Islam..so suppose if I ask them "if given a chance will you abuse mothers and sister of all these jehadis who are creating terrorism in India?" ..at spur of moment with feeling of anger and resentment many of them will say "yes..definately" even they will ad their personal comments and fantasies...but does that mean Hinduism teaches all these dirty things? or whole of the Hindu nation is having such cheap mentality??? There is a half filled Glass of water, one will say it is half filled and other will say it is half empty...it depends with what mentality you are looking at it.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 10, 2008 02:08 AM Permalink
I know all these things wont mk u and ur ummah gv up this false religion which teaches hatred and only hatred. Violence is the answer for non %u2013 believers: TRIMZI ( chapter trimzi is a fact I hv read it u cannot deny it). God save the non-believers in Allah, and may god rid of allah and his supporters.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 11:43 PM Permalink
Asad(PBUH)....Krishnji was a casanova and i proudy admit that.....we were always an open society nt like urs...but i laugh at ur ignorance that we will get gopis in swarga.....lol.....u realy dont know what u write.....we r not taught to kill non - Hindus cuz they are nt hindus as our religious duty (as mentioned in quran, chapter trimzi....and ya i hv read it and conformed it with muslims they agree to the teachings of trimzi and quran).....there is no such glory in killing non hindus in our religion as in urs..... UR Ummah needs Inrospection before its too late and u destroy the world....
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 10, 2008 02:04 AM Permalink
Asad (PBUH)
U can keep on blabbering abt ur so called facts.....But convincing Humanity that Islam equals peace will be more than impossible. History Islam and Quran if read properly shows intellectual bankruptcy of the founders and the authors of the religion and the holy book (eg sun sets in a big mud puddle).....and if u talk abt Hinduism it has many flaws and we accept it gracefully that%u2019s the beauty of it, unlike u ppl who believe what every horrendous and illogical stuff written in quran is the word of god and follow it. Ur ignorance or shud i say defensive stance is award giving. Showing how enlightened u r wont help. TRUTH is known to the world.
If quran is the word of allah and is to be followed in its medieval version (the so called only version).....God save the world!!!!
Islam started by Muhammad gv way to wars and massacres of qurashi tribe and made way for more murderous missions by his followers following the teachings of quran. U must be knowing that Muhammad was illiterate so cud not read a thing so how cud he hv preached quran.....ISLAM was a sham from the beginning to get power....
The fault does not lie with Muslims it lies with Islam and its teachings with makes Muslims treacherous and Murderous Teaching and barbarism from childhood what makes muslims what they are today a Bane to the human kind ,a liability , indication of troubled times ahead.
I may be ignorant (by ur Islamic standards) but m proud not to be one. I know all these thing
RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 10:58 PM Permalink
Asad (PBUH)
By nature and upbringing Hindus and muslims differ....
U will suerly get 72 virgins in heaven , keep up the gud work ..... long live osama.
By the this crap u hv writtin abt RSS is know to me and is all this is nothin but fabrication by leftist media to show hindus in bad light....yes riots happened 2000 dies but as compared to kashmir , pakistan (hindus ethinicly cleansed), bangladesh (on the brink) its nothing as compared to the suffering of the hindus by the hands of ......
RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 10:46 PM Permalink
Dude according to me gandhi was killed by the treachrous chacha of urs called nehru.....RSS was framed into it......CUZ gandhi had said pakistan will be created on his dead body......He wanted Jinah to be PM ..... so u can analyse who gt power after the elimination of gandhi and who gt a dynasty of idiots to rule us called gandhis(though this surname is the real second name fr gandhis.....)
BTW u dint answer me previous question who is better??
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by observer on Apr 09, 2008 10:50 PM Permalink
have you studied history written by rss people in rss schools.it shows.your knowledge of history is completle distorted and you know whom to blame for that.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:55 PM Permalink
Abhinav, have you red the forensic report about Godhra Carnage?? go and search on google video..may be you will find something....
RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by vikas shinde on Apr 09, 2008 10:52 PM Permalink
Ya heard of it.....hv u ever heard of Godhra train burning, ethin cleansing in kashmir, 3 million hindus vanishing within Few days In bangladesh (1971, now mass graves r being dug up)....persecution of Hindus in pakistan and bangladesh , Mau riots, alighar riots....etc etc
Hv u heard of :
Jazia
Chapter Trimzi (q 4:84)of quran.
Vested Property Act
. . . . Read about the above u iwll understand!!!!
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
Shinde you wanna play " one to one"...I could also quote the past and present events around the world with non muslim nations attrocites with each other and against muslims....but that won't lead us anywhere... as far as your mentioning of tirmizi and Qoran is concerned, I would suggest you ( I know it is futile since your mind is set ) to go to some authentic website and read all the terms and conditions, and explanation.Don't memorize or copy paste from third class websites like faithfreedomdotorg or historyofjehaddotcom.
RE:RE:RE:RE:the truth
by on Apr 09, 2008 11:00 PM Permalink
have u ever inquired about how u born mr.mastermind,SAB ALLAH KI DEN HAI,tera bap to soya nahi tha teri maa ke sath
RE:Coloning & some relligeons
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 11:03 PM Permalink
Dear Singh, I have no quarrels with the believers. At least be good enough to keep the faiths within the 4 walls of the homes or the respective places of worships. Pl don't bring god/gods on to the streets and auction them!
RE:Coloning & some relligeons
by asad syed on Apr 10, 2008 12:35 AM Permalink
JGN, aren't you "thrusting" your own ATHEISM BELIEFS on others by continously taunting and mocking at all other religions? why don't you keep your beliefs in 4 walls of your homes??? One who will feel religious concepts irrational and stupid will take is call and come to your belief..why are you taking hard efforts??
RE:RE:Non Muslims
by observer on Apr 09, 2008 10:25 PM Permalink
You are a incompetant person,by this prejudice you want to eliminate compitition.you are a sick loser
RE:Non Muslims
by Cool Guy on Apr 09, 2008 10:27 PM Permalink
i have some better suggestions :
1) us hawa ki sans bhi mat lena jisko musleem ne li ho. 2) us jagah ko bhi mat dekhna jisko musleem ne dekha ho. 3) us khane ko bhi mat kahan jisko musleem ne hath lagaya/ugaya ho. 4) us jagah par mat chalana jahan musleem chala ho. 5) us awaz ko bhi mat sunana jisko musleem ne bola ho .
with all due respect... is there a chance this all violence and insurgency in pakistan has some links to India? is it possible that Indian agency like RAW and its active terrorists are helping the locals to creat this fuss... Sarabjit ( Indian citizen ) was also arrested in Pakistan in 1990 accused for " series of blasts" . and all we talk now about "terrorism sent by Pakistan to India and supported by local moslems in India..." Indian terrorism has roots back to ninties and eighties....but our media does not give it any coverage... all fanatics are welcome attack me now...I love to read your frustated comments..the heat and anguish in your heated posts....
RE:just a thought
by alert on Apr 09, 2008 10:18 PM Permalink
There is no need to be hot.. we can talk the truth. There is more chance that mohd terrorists from afghan who follow their religion meticulously as preached by mohd have done it. Absolutely dont doubt.. it is sanctified religous work.
RE:just a thought
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:26 PM Permalink
good... but you did not used more abusive word for mohmd....thats bad...you need to improve....
RE:just a thought
by viswanatha seshadri on Apr 09, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
Syed: No wonder you got such a doubt, as a moslem, since moslems, especially the ISI, are doing it habitually in other non-moslem countriers. In fact, it has been identified by neighbors that the perpetrators of post-godhra guj riots on moslem shops were mostly pak-infiltrators dressed like indian adivasis. God does not appear in person or use his sincere devotees to kill asuric evil-doers. He make them kill eachother and get gone, to be born as animals in next lives.
RE:just a thought
by suresh roy on Apr 09, 2008 10:22 PM Permalink
So sad to see a dumb paki pleading "with all due respect" then goes to puke the shiit on this site. These pakis have no sites worth debating nor to write, so they are here between us like hyenas looking for scraps of food.
Lawyers killed each other, how can a second country be involved, you dumb ass?
Since Pakistan's ISI is involved in training Kashmiri militants for a long time (terrorists have confessed to this, even Yasin Malik has himself told this), so India should also do the same in Pakistan. We support this.
We will support any govt. in India which can increase the bombing and killing in Pakistan. Since, they are doing the same against us for a long time.
RE:RE:just a thought
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:31 PM Permalink
buddy... violence started with lawyers.."but spreaded all over the karachi"..and " Gun-wielding men on motorcycles opened fire at several places"..so how come these men got guns? and how come they started doing all such stuff immediatly after the clash? are those lawyers supermen to fly all over the karachi and get motorcycles and start firing...for terrorism you dont need to go by yourself and kill people...it is enough if you provide arms and explosives to locals for their internal disputes and fights......no doubt about pakistan's support and training for terrorism ( or rather freedom struggle in their own words ) in kashmir....but India is not all that clean... I hope you understood it now mr rediffsu.... besides I still wonder what Sarabjit singh was doing inside Lahore in 1990?????
RE:just a thought
by Pankaj Mohan on Apr 09, 2008 10:45 PM Permalink
Yaar Asad, Finding illegal guns to fight is not hard for the Pakistanis, you know it. The anti-Soviet war paved the way in for it.
RE:just a thought
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:53 PM Permalink
Yaar Pankaj... all you want to say...in all 60 years India or its secret organisations have not done a single thing against pakistan??? or at least in Kashmir against local moslems????
RE:RE:just a thought
by Pankaj Mohan on Apr 09, 2008 11:07 PM Permalink
And let me clarify, I didn't mean the two greats were blood thirsty. But, they did have a different view of things, something the congress under Nehru didn't agree with, but neither could it follow Gandhi, since the latter was impractical...The government policies under Nehru and his other successors were/ are confused, one thinks.
RE:just a thought
by Pankaj Mohan on Apr 09, 2008 11:02 PM Permalink
Mere bhai, every government does it in some or the other way around. But the Indians are not good in doing so...they have a mentality sandwiched between Gandhi and Subhash Chandra Bose / Sardar Patel, which neither makes them completely blood thirsty (leaving a few cases aside) nor purely saints.
RE:just a thought
by JGN on Apr 09, 2008 10:19 PM Permalink
Mr.asad syed, pl go back to 1916 (Lucknow Pact) for the origin of 2 nation theory. If I remember correctly even RSS was formed muchlater (in 1925 or so).
And of course the politicians in India can blame ISI and in Pak you can blame RAW. No problem. Everything equalizes itself.
RE:RE:just a thought
by asad syed on Apr 09, 2008 10:39 PM Permalink
JGN is it wise to justify present day activities and policies by mentioning past? those ppl in 1916 are dead..they had a different view and mentality as per their time... I just wanted to point out at other side of the coin.
