the former preaches to kill the latter. pls read mr. arvind ghosh's book "the koran and kafir". to understand why this young hindu man was killed. also, pls read anwar shaikh's book "islam, the arabian imperialsim" to understand how the muslims of indian subcontinent got pushed into islam which, if they were allowed access to facts and think freely and had a choice, they would repudiate. there is no reason for the subcontinent muslims to remain ignorant in the 21st century, the century of information made possible, largely and ironically, by the hindus.
RE:koran and kafir
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 10:00 PM Permalink
You cannot change your future... but, u can change ur habits... and sure ur habits will change ur future
RE:koran and kafir
by Himanshu Tiwari on Apr 08, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
That is after all peace.and in WAR only. Islam says Jihad is the only way to get peace in life!!!
RE:koran and kafir
by mohamed on Apr 08, 2008 09:57 PM Permalink
no dear brother..Jihad is not fighting war.ITs strinving towards GOD. When during a talk one person asked how can I do Jihad.And Prophet Mohamed(PBUH) asked him."Do you have parents".He said Yes..Then the best Jihad is to look after your parents.
RE:koran and kafir
by mohamed on Apr 08, 2008 10:13 PM Permalink
Thats what Iam reminding you..its not fault of Islam.See what christians do.in Africa the church says to circumsission,no idol worship,Jesus told not to eat pig meat..etc etc what they r following..And in hinduism Vedas are the top most,.. it clearly says no image of god and he is only one..how come trinity and idol worship..in budhism there is a clause saying that there shall b no idol worship..but what does budhists in India do...am just telling dont rate a religion by looking at the followers. If you want to really know islam read it and you can compare it with your religion.I bet there wont be much difference.
Yes I totally agree with you..Killing or any kind is not accepted.you know how many has been brutally raped and killed during gujarat riots?.Some have escaped who have seen their mother/sisters been brutally raped and killed.It will be in his mind all years and when he grows we dont know what he will do.And he may kill some ppl in tmeples or bomb the place where his mother has been raped..And you will call him a Terorist .What will you do if yoiur mother is been raped ..can you hold it in your mind for atleast a sec.# What am saying is you read the history and find what happenend then.even in 1969 also riots happenend in Gujarat.
RE:Killing is not justified anywhere
by mohamed on Apr 08, 2008 09:48 PM Permalink
In kashmir also asme happened.The army raped a lot of women and killed a lot of men.Its a reflection u sow it and you reap it....
RE:Killing is not justified anywhere
by harinder kalra on Apr 09, 2008 04:18 PM Permalink
in kashmir hindus are killed by terriest i think u you d'nt have need to mention.. kashmiri pandits lived in vally from thousands year...(ussss time seee jab kisi ne Islam ka naaam bhi nahin sunaa thaa) wooo wahan see refugee camps mein rehneee kee liyee mazboor yeee hain yee bhi mention karneee ki kyaa jururat hai..kyun ki sareee insaaniat toh islam mein hi hai(jo Sarii duniaa janti hai..)waise likhneee ka fayadaa toh koi nahin tum logo par main pehleee bhi mention kar chukaaa hun jeans related prblem.. kafi critical hoti hain..fir bhi duaa karungaa GET WELL SOON
RE:Killing is not justified anywhere
by Himanshu Tiwari on Apr 08, 2008 09:58 PM Permalink
Do you know what initiated guj riots..u sacred mohaamed seems to be very smart. Learn from history. Jigjya was the tax that only hindus have to pay when mughals were here... and they too have done badbly at that time.. see democratic hindu raj in india.. Gov. think about everybody.
RE:Killing is not justified anywhere
by mohamed on Apr 08, 2008 10:03 PM Permalink
ha ha ha...my dear brother ur too mistaken.jaziya is a tax on non-muslims.There is a tax called Zakat.you know its more than Jesiya.Zakat is compulsory for muslims to give.And jesiya is a kind of tax for protecttion of non muslims..heard any riots during mughal rule.We are ready to pay for our protection.Can the govt protect us during riots..no...but we dont care to die jus for simple reason that we are muslims..thats different..
RE:Killing is not justified anywhere
by Muslim on Apr 09, 2008 12:23 AM Permalink
Mohammed, Whatever you are trying to say is making Muslims look like Idiots. Though I am Muslim, I say Islam is a flawed religion. Stop defending Islam & accept the facts as I have done. You will become wiser & people will not think Muslims are fools & idiots
unme is a poor low class pakistani who failed to become suicide bomber so the maulanas in local terrorist training centre ie masjid have given him a job of copy and paste all the time
RE:unme the poor paki
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
I dont believe you hindus you are hypocrites you worship rat god and when the same rat enters your house instead of worshiping him you want to catch and kill him because the same rat god spreads deadly disease and virus like plague. HAhaha. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
RE:unme the poor paki
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
What is that.. a hindu god does not know that he has a son, and then chop off is head cause the son did not allow her mother to be seen bathing naked ? And after chopping off his head he cannot bring back his life what type of god is that? He has to cut a head of an elephant to give life to his son, why he cannot do that?? Then how can he will save you guys in india where he cannot save his own SON. What a shame LOL. Sun God does not have power to stop Rain God, Rain God does not have power to stop Wind God, and Wind God does not have power to stop Rain God, WAR God does not have power to stop PEACE Rain God, PEACE God does not have power to stop WAR God, how many gods you people have. LOL, "God" "God's" or Goddess help hindus. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
UnMe go and worship the unhygienic black stone called Kaaba all muslims kiss the black stone imagine all the germs on it and then more muslims kiss it really this is a disgusting religion . founded by a barbarian , meant for barbarians
RE:unhygienic kaaba
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:41 PM Permalink
What is that.. a hindu god does not know that he has a son, and then chop off is head cause the son did not allow her mother to be seen bathing naked ? And after chopping off his head he cannot bring back his life what type of god is that? He has to cut a head of an elephant to give life to his son, why he cannot do that?? Then how can he will save you guys in india where he cannot save his own SON. What a shame LOL. Sun God does not have power to stop Rain God, Rain God does not have power to stop Wind God, and Wind God does not have power to stop Rain God, WAR God does not have power to stop PEACE Rain God, PEACE God does not have power to stop WAR God, how many gods you people have. LOL, "God" "God's" or Goddess help hindus. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
the hindu man will go to jannat e firdaus for exposing a cheap man like prophet muhammad ( piss be upon him ) who was nothing more than dacoit who along with other dacoits like abu bakr umar uthman and ali looted and terrorised the innocent of arabian peninsula and piiimped the good looking hajrat khadija ayesha and fatima for money
RE:he will go to jannat
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
I dont believe you hindus you are hypocrites you worship rat god and when the same rat enters your house instead of worshiping him you want to catch and kill him because the same rat god spreads deadly disease and virus like plague. HAhaha. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
We worship all creation of God including animal and our devotee sees our God. is ur religion enriched with such things. u know only killing and cutting , spreading hatred as per koran and no face of God. We have many. Do u have? Even what our God has given to u (as hinduism only tells about whole creation of God)that also u r cutting in two pieces and one piece u r offering to Allah. ur religion is naked, lustful. we have our ideal sai baba, Ramkrishna paramhansa,vivekananda, chaitnya mahaprabhu, Ramthakur, Lokhnathbaba etc and all as a human being had come to this earth and tried to remove the misery of life. did ur Allah had sent any messenger like them. have ur Allah any face? when u close ur eyes and pray Allah , can u visualise anyone? u imazine and there u r loser. u r killing ur own people but see hindu- have u heard hindu is killing hindus in the name of religion and there u r looser. so u can be frustrated leaving in dark and shadow but we r not . we have sun God to give us light. uwe have Rain God who provides rain whenever needed and we pray , not begging, we can pray our wind God to flow calmly but u beg without any face. there u looser and big looser for what as ur religion was created in desert with no help of nature God, Rain God. there u r looser. and also u know ur history how u being muslim in india. there u r looser and so on the example of ur being looser.As u could not win the heart of human being, there u r the ultimate looser.
RE:MUSLIM-THE NAME OF ULTIMATE LOOSER
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 08, 2008 09:42 PM Permalink
UnME,to save u my dear.ur inmate has appreciated our veda and u r discouraging. there u r looser and have been more fool than me. see how i am expressing with love. but u express arrogantly with hatred.there u r looser-ultimate looser
RE:MUSLIM-THE NAME OF ULTIMATE LOOSER
by mohamed on Apr 08, 2008 09:45 PM Permalink
Thats why u have a lot of gods everywhere and dilute the essense of god.Amd when somebody does magic he becomes god..Vedas says there is not image of GOD.
RE:MUSLIM-THE NAME OF ULTIMATE LOOSER
by Saugata Banerjee on Apr 08, 2008 09:54 PM Permalink
God can not come directly so He sent his messenger unlike ur popet. It virtually allowing us to increase the faith on God . As u do not have any- u r the looser- God hasd sent 1 messenger to u but u knew well how he was. this is not to be described elaborately. u know. there u r the looser.
This is not Islams fault.This is the reactions of a common man.His frustration over s years,...gujareat riots,Albaninans in Europe,Iraq war,afgan war,palestinians etc etc and hurting islamic sentiments all over the world...So ir requires only a spark to ignite..thats what has happened here also... What am saying its human reaction..same like hwta has happpneend in Gujarat riots..as politicians says with a slight smile..its reaction to Godhra....
RE:RE:No Fault of Islam
by on on Apr 08, 2008 09:26 PM Permalink
Mr.Pandey.. christian missionary is visiting india next week. If you want to participate or interested to learn more about jesus..u r welcome to attend. Please leave me your email address. If you are a student and want to come to USA for higher studies we can help get your admission in Christian University. We have helped many indians achive their goals in life..good luck!
RE:No Fault of Islam
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:31 PM Permalink
I dont believe you hindus you are hypocrites you worship rat god and when the same rat enters your house instead of worshiping him you want to catch and kill him because the same rat god spreads deadly disease and virus like plague. HAhaha. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
RE:RE:No Fault of Islam
by raj sreedhar on Apr 08, 2008 09:37 PM Permalink
UnMe, You seems like a very ignorant person. It has inner meanings. which you wont understand. Beheading , cutting throat , suside bombing etc not part of Hindu, Christian, Jew, and Buddist religion. You guys are masters of it. Most violent faith ever.
RE:No Fault of Islam
by UnMe on Apr 08, 2008 09:55 PM Permalink
What is that.. a hindu god does not know that he has a son, and then chop off is head cause the son did not allow her mother to be seen bathing naked ? And after chopping off his head he cannot bring back his life what type of god is that? He has to cut a head of an elephant to give life to his son, why he cannot do that?? Then how can he will save you guys in india where he cannot save his own SON. What a shame LOL. Sun God does not have power to stop Rain God, Rain God does not have power to stop Wind God, and Wind God does not have power to stop Rain God, WAR God does not have power to stop PEACE Rain God, PEACE God does not have power to stop WAR God, how many gods you people have. LOL, "God" "God's" or Goddess help hindus. You monkey worshiper donkey, this is in you own scriptures that you cannot worship animals (ie. Rats, Elephant, Monkey, Snakes, is this hindu religion) you are a big idiot to blame other. Go back to your Vedaas & Gitass
RE:No Fault of Islam
by jay b on Apr 08, 2008 09:25 PM Permalink
Islam was founded during very chaotic times in arabia and a lot of what is says was suited to those chaotic times. Todays islam will need to be Moderate,modified and flexible to suit todays times else any extreme religion will be short lived
RE:No Fault of Islam
by on on Apr 08, 2008 09:26 PM Permalink
Jay...christian missionary is visiting india next week. If you want to participate or interested to learn more about jesus..u r welcome to attend. Please leave me your email address. If you are a student and want to come to USA for higher studies we can help get your admission in Christian University. We have helped many indians achive their goals in life..good luck!
RE:No Fault of Islam
by jay b on Apr 08, 2008 09:40 PM Permalink
i already good amt of christianity by listening to Joel Osteen. Please spend more money on conversions since indians are getting rich and giving some free (or low cost) medicines,chlothes and money will not tempt the tribal or poor people.
RE:dont like Hindus...
by on on Apr 08, 2008 09:24 PM Permalink
christian missionary is visiting india next week. If you want to participate or interested to learn more about jesus..u r welcome to attend. Please leave me your email address. If you are a student and want to come to USA for higher studies we can help get your admission in Christian University. We have helped many indians achive their goals in life..good luck!
