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RE:RE:just wipe out muslims from india. they are all scum. kick them into raw sewage to die. drage them by beard and throw them into sewage. tear koran and use as toilet paper after shitting. lol
by Mahendra Patel on Apr 06, 2008 06:34 PM  Permalink
Afghanistan is very backward country.

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RE:RE:gyan vedi you have not understood atall you are just inferior and confessing lies
by aamirkhan on Apr 06, 2008 05:42 PM  Permalink
ambika devi why only afganistan there are developed moslem countries like turkey ,bosnia albania and now recently kosovo in europe ,or countries like uzbekistan ,turkmenistan,abkhazia uzbekistan chechnya ,or ukraine all are developed and neatly discipline,have some knowledge from me

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RE:RE:gyan vedi you have not understood atall you are just inferior and confessing lies
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 06, 2008 06:15 PM  Permalink
@AMIRKHAN:

everything that i have written i have given with proper reasoning and references ...
WHY ARE U SO UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THE TRUTH ?

COME OUT OF ISLAM IF U CANNOT FACE THE TRUTH

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RE:RE:RE:gyan vedi you have not understood atall you are just inferior and confessing lies
by ! on Apr 06, 2008 09:00 PM  Permalink
from where did u get these references. It is Shaitaan's (like you) has provided. I think u r number one Shaitaan.

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RE:RE:ISLAM IS SO FLAWED - can it be a True Religion ???
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 06, 2008 04:32 PM  Permalink
SUCH A FLAWED CULT ... CAN ISLAM STAND ON THE ALTAR OF TRUTH ?

It is inevitable that people from within and outside islam are waking up to so many flaws in islam and questioning !

With each passing day, such questioning will increase

PS I REALLY DONT WANT TO HURT ANYONE, JUST ASKING SOME PROBING QUESTIONS


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RE:RE:RE:ISLAM IS SO FLAWED - can it be a True Religion ???
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 06, 2008 07:05 PM  Permalink
ISLAM IS SO FLAWED - can it be a True Religion ???

1) Social Flaw:
A woman has to produce 4 male witnesses to confirm that she was raped !
Can any muslim tell me how many women ever got a favorable verdict because of such an edict ?

2) Scientific Flaw: Quran says that Sun sets in a muddy pool (Sura 18: 83-86)
The greatest Islamic scholar of Saudi Arabia, the Grand Mufti Sheikh Abdulaziz Bin Baz proclaimed that anyone saying that earth was not flat, would be declared apostate (explains the filthy uneducated islamic ethos)
Compare this to Rig Veda - they describe the exact speed of light numerically 6500 years ago (Rig Veda : 1.50 - just google: Rig Veda SPEED OF LIGHT)

Of course there are many other glaring scientific flaws in quran , i just count few

3) SPIRITUAL FLAW: THAT the ultimate reqward for a faithful is jannat with virgins and cascades of water
Suicide bombers are killing innocents in quest for these virgins

Contrast this to hinduism, believes in karma - sow as u reap - and the ultimate reward for the soul is to merge with Paramatma or God(then sex with virgins become meaningless)

4) DO I EVEN NEED TO RECOUNT HERE THE COUNTLESS QURAN QUOTES EXHORTING VIOLENCE AGAINST NON-BELIEVERS

5)MUHAMMED'S LIFE ITSELF - his marriages to ayesha, juwahariyaan (after killing her husband, brothers), Zainab ...
I dont want to start insulting but i hope everyone gets the essence of what i m saying about their prophet



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RE:ISLAM IS SO FLAWED - can it be a True Religion ???
by mohyou younus on Apr 06, 2008 06:20 PM  Permalink
Mr gyan u r gyan is very limited
in the case of adultery I hope u know the meaning of the adultery
quran says earth is spherical like egg of ostriches
if some one kills for for benift of his own then he will go to hell not to janna
there is not a single ayath in quran which orders killing of innocents
Last one is your hatred nothing other than that


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RE:ISLAM IS SO FLAWED - can it be a True Religion ???
by mohyou younus on Apr 06, 2008 06:21 PM  Permalink
Mr gyan u r gyan is very limited
in the case of adultery I hope u know the meaning of the adultery
quran says earth is spherical like egg of ostriches
if some one kills for for benift of his own then he will go to hell not to janna
there is not a single ayath in quran which orders killing of innocents
Last one is your hatred nothing other than that


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RE:brothers lets get back to our origin...instead follow this evil cult!
by KK on Apr 06, 2008 03:36 PM  Permalink
I am previous follower of Vedic Cult I as other Hindu Brothere to Give Up this CULT And Come to Christianity.Only Jesus is saviour He can only Saves uS.

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RE:brothers lets get back to our origin...instead follow this evil cult!
by JGN on Apr 06, 2008 10:50 PM  Permalink
KK, neo-converts like you are the curse of our country. You are only womitting what the missionaries have fed you. Nobody calls Vedic Culture as "cult" as there is no compulsion in hinduism to believe in any god. Technically even atheists are also hindus. No high priest can issue any injunction against any hindu for any reason whatsoever.

The Chruches weild enormous power over the believers. Their permission is required for marriage and even for burying the dead. There is a separate portion in every cemetry meant for "rogues" (the dead body of our present Defence Minister is buried in one such meant for rogues) and not to speak of dime-a-dozen "fatwas" issued by various Mullahs aganst the Muslims in India.

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RE:brothers lets get back to our origin...instead follow this evil cult!
by JGN on Apr 06, 2008 10:55 PM  Permalink
How many persons have Jesus saved? Btw Jesus got up after crucification and went to his father in heaven. So the glib talk of him saving the mankind is all meaningless.

Pl read the article "Ten commandments on the School Wall" at Positive Atheism. Also download and read "The Necessity of Atheism" by Dr. D.M. Brooks freely available at Project Gutenberg to understand the real face of religions.

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RE:RE:brothers lets get back to our origin...instead follow this evil cult!
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 06, 2008 04:26 PM  Permalink
@KK:

if u read the vedas, u would never have converted to christianity !
Its against caste system, it talks about scientific research to know more about Paramatma, it speaks that the ultimate aim of a person should be to merge with Paramatma ...

Hope u do some research!
Jesus, as a person is sinless - I love him !
His teachings are the same as Sanatan Hindu Dharma ...

if u are a student of science read about the Grand Unification theory or General Theory of relativity - i can tell u that the crux of these theoris are explicitly written in the Vedas ...
The rig veda is the most scientific book as it even predicts the speed of light 6500 years ago ! (Rig Veda : 1.50)


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Islam...
by Topno on Apr 06, 2008 02:52 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Muslims are very communal in muslim majority areas (Like Saudi Arab, Dubai, Pakistan, Malayasia, Bangladesh, Kashmir etc). But they become secular, wherever they are minority.

They kill communists, wherever they are majority. But support communists where they are minority (Kerala, West Bengal).

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RE:Islam...
by KK on Apr 06, 2008 03:36 PM  Permalink
OH New Fact.
Find new fact as well.


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RE:ISLAM IS FLAWED
by Palani on Apr 06, 2008 12:13 PM  Permalink
CNN Report (March 11, 2008):
?      Bush appoints Pakistani native, Sada Cumber, U.S. envoy to Muslim nations
?      Rice: Cumber will help the United States explain itself to the Muslim world
?      Cumber, an American Muslim, says he is in unique position to promote dialogue
?      Bush: "... mission is to explain to the Islamic world that America is a friend..."
US Secretary of States Condelesa Rice said Islam is an important part of the American life, %u201COur growing Muslim population is a great and welcom addition to our country,%u201D she said at a gathering of diplomates from conference member countries at The State Department.


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RE:ISLAM IS FLAWED
by ANNELA REDDY on Apr 06, 2008 12:14 PM  Permalink
Good fact based reasearch material, Why dont you bulish this in Wikipedia to touch greater audience ?

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RE:ISLAM IS FLAWED
by KK on Apr 06, 2008 12:41 PM  Permalink
Gyan Vedi or performa invoice.
You seems to be finding Flaws in Islam its good for muslim society but Hindus are 80% can you How many women are beaten,Xploited by there Drunken Husbands.Liquior is a main problem of Indian society.


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The leaders cant do development .
by amit saxena on Apr 06, 2008 10:29 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The political leaders have to say something.They cant do anything for development.What should they say to people?They got a very easy trick.Give statements which make the people confused about their own religions.If that is clashing with other religion's sentiments,riots are there.In all cases they will get votes.Why did Abu hashmi say two child policy is anti islamic?Islam means a "straight way" to god.Why are you maikng it complex?Do not try to fool people in the name of Islam? There should be a national religion which should be at first priority.population control is in the benefit of country,it has nothing to do with Islam.

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RE:The leaders cant do development .
by mumbai on Apr 06, 2008 11:15 AM  Permalink
When we get independance they were12% now they are 30%

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RE:May I ask
by ebby on Apr 06, 2008 10:23 AM  Permalink
Can Puritanical Mr.singh clarify what this has got to do with the above atrticle and who the hell has given him the authority to ask such pontifical questions ?

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by deep dar on Apr 06, 2008 10:40 AM  Permalink
so what if someone wants to know about Islam? Muslims would be happy to see Hindus taking interest in their religion!!!

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RE:May I ask
by kutubuddeen sherani on Apr 06, 2008 11:00 AM  Permalink
Dear Brother,

Please find the answers:
1. No Quran against killing of any innocent human being. Quran says killing of one innocent human being is equal to killing of all humanity and saving life of one innocent is equal to saving humanity.

2.Quran is not against equality. there is equal punishment for woman and man. and the punishment.
3. Quran is not against freedom, but what freedom u are referring?
4.NO, quran does not advocate capital punishmnet. Quran says tell people about the right path if they do not accept tell them you follow your path I will follow path.

And some brothers are referring some translated copy of quran but I want to suggest them kindly refer to authentic sources. You can visit site of Mr. Zakir Naik if u want to know about islam.

May ALLAH help you in understanding islam.....brothers do not spread wrong things against islam. Islam is peacful and try to understand it from the authentic source and do not interprete it with the poor followers.

Regards,

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RE:May I ask
by JGN on Apr 06, 2008 11:18 AM  Permalink
Dear sherani, I know very well what the contents of The Quran are. Pl search for The Skedptics Annotated Bible. It has category-wise verses like "Absurdities, contradictions, hatred, good-stuff, etc" from The Bible (both Old Testament and New Testament), The Quran and The Book of Mormon. In this age of internet where information on any subject is available at the click of a mouse, no body can get away with mis-information compaign.

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by kutubuddeen sherani on Apr 06, 2008 03:42 PM  Permalink
My friend.

in the internet age u can get many things which are not authentic...kindly try to get authentic source to get info about islam...still u want to hate islam this is up to you..but without knowing if u decide that is no fare.
and i chellange u once u understood islam u will be first to accept islam and u will think why i did not accept at the earliest...
May ALLAH show u right path...

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RE:May I ask
by JGN on Apr 06, 2008 09:55 AM  Permalink
The answer to all your questions are in the affirmative. Pl download free copy of The Koran from Project Gutenberg, read it and understand for yourself.

The Koran contains contradictory verses which can be interpreted according to the convenience of the interpreter. While the good muslims quote the good verses, the religious fanatics quote verses like "go and kill the non-believers wherever they are found, etc" in support of their skewed perceptions.

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RE:May I ask
by deep dar on Apr 06, 2008 10:40 AM  Permalink
Y Singh,
1. Mohammed himself told his followers to convert infidels = non-Muslims to Islam, if they refused, to kill them with swords. (Source: Hadiths)

2. The Quran states that Namaz shouldn't be done by a man in an intoxicated state, or when he is just back from a journey or even when he has just touched a woman. If he has just touched a woman, he is supposed to smear dust on his forehead and then perform the namaz.
Implication: Women are dirtier than dirt.

3. Quran says that all Muslims live and die for Allah. Mullahs are the intermediaries between Muslims and Allah, hence, Muslims follow whatever the Mullahs say.

4. Yes, since a Muslim isn't supposed to convert to another religion.

If you want more details, go to prophetofdoom.net

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