When I came to Chennai, I was confident that I can stay comfortably in any part of India. I have seen almost all the cultures of India at the college and had pals from almost all parts of India.
How wrong I was!! Madras and Madrasis proved me so wrong. You have to be a different kind of creature to survive in this so called metro of India. Here are some of the tips to survive in this region, which I am sure will act as surviving tips for many and it is the central idea of this blog.
I have spent close to five years in Tamilnadu to experience it. The rules below do not apply to the whole bunch, but defintely applicable to 90% of the population. And you judge a culture by the majority.
1. Rule - 1: ------------
Never speak in Hindi.
... Even if the other person can speak (weird, ha!). And God forbid if the other person is a Tamil. Never ever speak in that language with them. They are more dangerous than who really can not speak. Of course, you can not understand even if he speaks (and their is tinge of pride when he speak...because he can speak)
Of course, all Tamil will talk in Hindi once they are outside Tamilandu...well they are like that, the race is full of cowards and the whole state is paradoxical. Will come on that later.
RE:Staying
by gopi nath on Apr 03, 2008 07:36 AM Permalink
See How dare the other people are on us. We can sometimes speak Hindi, but we hate that because you people think that we should only speak Hindi with you. Can you speak Tamil when we come to your place?
You're an idiot who cann't make friends because you wanted them to only speak Hindi.
You people wanted to be more dominant that you're compelling us to speak Hindi.
Do you know about our tradition, How foreigners got attracted towards our language and culture? Are you really interested in becoming a friend of any of our people? You don't know about our people or land. You'd been here for 5 years but you searched simply a Hindi speaking fellow here not any good friend to communicate. Don't tell that we are cowards. we are the one who live here peacefully and secularly. We're not going to hurt any of you people. We never degraded any language for any reason. When we go and live in other states we'll only expect the mother tongue of those people from their mouths. Not our Tamil or your Hindi. They're native people who only know how to contact in their mother tongue. You can speak only Hindi and expecting only Hindi from others. How weird it is actually!!
RE:RE:Staying
by jalak Dikhlaja on Apr 03, 2008 08:00 AM Permalink
Oh yah! such calm from a Lunatic tamil.. everyone outhere knows how obnoxious Tame-ill people are..So dont talk sweet word..nobodys gonna give a Phauque
RE:Staying
by VSR on Apr 03, 2008 07:31 AM Permalink
Thanks for the vivid discription. Rules are fine and in the people need to survive. It was pretty unprecedented to attack Kannadiga restaurants in Chennai which was not the case earlier. The issue on the water sharing between KN and TN were on for quite sometime and it takes the front seat when the elections are announced. The problem is no one (no one in central government) to put an end to this asking state governments to behave properly and punish the politicians who were involved in inciting such violence. Today someone in Chennai was attached and this was reported widely and tomorrow the repeat will happen in KN. In fact, it started with attacking tamil interests in Bangalore and it is getting repeated in Chennai and this will not stop. The same happened sometime in Mumbia. I wonder, whether India is a safe place to live with such partisan attitudes why alone Chennai.
RE:Staying
by subbu on Apr 03, 2008 08:24 AM Permalink
Mr.Hari, You are a narrow minded crook.Do you know 33% of tamilian population are telugus?Never once there was a clash between Telugus and Tamilians in the name of languages-thaa is because we have adjusted ourselves to the local culture!I am a telugu from south tamilnadu and the entire village including the tamilians there can speak telugu and all telugu people can speak tamil!There lies the solution-adopt yourself to the region where you have settled!Do you know theright hand of Karunanidhi Veerasamy is a telugu man?Do you know Vaiko who is president of MDMK is a telugu man?Do you know Vijayakant who has flosted a new party and now has mass support is a telugu man?Do you know Mr.Hegde who a political leader in tamilnadu was respected by all(Not Ramakrishna Hegde-Of course I have great respect for that noble man who was back stabbed by a lier of Karnataka-the cheat Deve gowda!)Do you know majority of the industries in coimbatore are controlled by Kounders who are basically Kannadigas?There are about 7% kannadigas and another 5% Malayalis in Tamilnadu!Note Tamilnadu declares holiday for Ugadhi and Onam!The most respected actress of yester years Saraojadevi is termed as the kannadiga parrot!How about Rajinikant-is he a tamilian?MGR our late chief minister is a malayali!For that matter Karunanidhi's grand father was a telugu man!So donot bluff and write nonsense here.
Can u hear what VSR said? Are you really educated. Y dont your brain think that we are indian and not tamilian. I do agree, tamil people will never speak hindi. You know something that does not represent people fanaticsm. It just shows politicians of tamilnadu are idiotic. Tamil peoples are not taught with hindi at their schools. Whenver there is a fight the common people will not go and fight. Only the politicians representatives will go and fight and this is quite common across states just to gain votes. If you really think that peoples from tamilnadu are fanatic just take this case and answer me. In karnataka no bus plates were written in hindi nor in english. All the foreign companies should keep their name plates in kannada whether or not they keep their name plate in english. Are these not fanatism? My dear brother, do you think this is done by the innocent people. No. This is done by the both state politicians directly or indirectly. They are trying to break the country so that they rule karnataka as a country and enjoy the benefits derived out of it. So dont be innocent and raise a voice in this forum. Please dont try to break india.
United States,Canada and Australia are real Federal but india is a cheat federal state when karnataka was implementing kaveri projects in 1978 the same karunanidhi signed in papers considering the neighbourhood relations like wise when banglore drinking water project is implemented then patil government gave ascent that if tamil nadu accept then hokkenagal scheme will be accepted papers are this time with tamil nadu that even karnataka politicians aware also the border of hokkenakal is settled during british period itself with then salem district of madras presidency and mysore state then princly state i am seeing hear some kannadigas fighting saying tamil nadu cheates them what hear in tamil nadu fully feel other than politicians is if karnataka is prepared to release real kaveri water into tamil nadu then it can drain flood water hear if its not interested in real kaveri water then we dont need flood water if you fighting kannadigas prepared for this go and stop all water from karnataka entering tamil nadu including flood water if you accept that we are prepared to look the other way for water atlast what india government says 290000 mt thorium in that almost 140000 is in tamil nadu if india accepts tamil nadu as confedaration then we will use our nuclear brain say (Raja Ramanna),Apj Abudl kalam and Chidambaram or many young nuclear scientist we have kalpakkam if needed we will go in for any treaty with friendly countries to have water for our needs with our resources becoz
RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by Eagle on Apr 03, 2008 07:32 AM Permalink
Finally shown your charater, Central will treat you better? Just one bomb enough. Brain work only when money and support from central otherwise they will be normal engineer. If tamilians are so brainy than why you have fight with everybody. Why people don't like tamil lang?
RE:RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by duraiswamy srinivasan on Apr 03, 2008 07:37 AM Permalink
If you pelple indians cant accept the genuine fight if not real water the no flood water you indians not accept that genuiness of tamil nadu then what we do also after india got independance upto 1985 there is various ways hindi government in central used to do with tamil nadu to study hindi hear got limited success then after IT revolution Western countries opened its doors go and check with americans will tell that the darker skinned ones from southern part of india is better in IT than other indians beyond that there is no need for us to illustrate our brillaince.
RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by VSR on Apr 03, 2008 07:37 AM Permalink
Duraiswmay, what a writing. Do you understand what you have scribled here. No comma, no full full stop and no CAPS. What is see here is full of English words with confused thoughts. Better say clearly what you intend to say rather than writing such long sentences. Your "hear" and actually "here" offers different meanings.
RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by puli on Apr 03, 2008 07:25 AM Permalink
Much of Thorium deposits in India are in Kerala. Check the sources before claiming everything in Tamil Nadu. Tamil Nadu has nothing worthwhile except Lignite and Cement.
RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by duraiswamy srinivasan on Apr 03, 2008 07:32 AM Permalink
all of indias thorium is found in kerala and then tamil nadu alone so only out of 290000 only 140000 that too from kanyakumari district i had mentioned you pls check not just kerala full has tamil nadu got this is from indian government statistics.
RE:All because of Psedu Fedaralism
by chandrakanth sambandam on Apr 03, 2008 07:51 AM Permalink
YOU DEAR! MUCH MORE THAN DEPOSITS WE HAVE CULTURE AND HERITAGE AND HISTORY OVER ANYTHING ELSE. THAT IS WHY ALL THE TROUBLE MAKERS ARE LIVING NOW. IF WE START MAKING TROUBLE NO ONE WILL LIVE PEACEFULLY.
Dear All, Tamil Nadu has always been open in accepting a non tamil CM like JJ from Karnataka, MGR a Malayalee and now Vijayakant a telugu speaking Tamil....Rajini a kannadiga...so on any count Tamilans are more open than any other state.Hindi was opposed only not to allow our ancient language to die down, like you had let your mother tongue....LONG LIVE TAMILAN, LONG LIVE CLASSICAL TAMIL.....
What we achieved with changing names? Hate & power for regional forces. Calcuta->Kolkata Madras->Chennai Bombay->Mumbai Bangalore->Bangalooru Regional haters coming out of with full sprits. Eventhough these bas..ted adopted english for bread butter but still regional lust remains
RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by Hari on Apr 03, 2008 07:15 AM Permalink
9. Rule -9: -----------
Want to talk to someone. Use "ama" (means "yes") frequently.
Yes, it is the thumb rule and see the development. Your work will be done relatively faster. But do not give an impression that you know the language. Just give an impression that you people are most unbelievable race on the planet (never mind they are a collection of rowdies, they know it.)
10. Rule - 10: --------------
While taking a house, make everything clear.
Yes, make everything clear to the owner, the water, the electricity amount to be paid, your timings, your food...everythingfrom A to Z.
When you see a house, the owner will be the most descent creature on earth. Later on first casualty will be your early morning chores. Madras is city without water and in summer seasons very few take a descent bath. If you are non vegetarian make it clear to them. House shifting is pain.
11. Rule - 11: --------------
Always use markets or places where people can speak in English.
This way you will not get cheated and will be able to understand what they speak. Never ever try to learn Tamil. Trust me you will loose more than gain if you try to learn this medieval language. If you try, first casualty will be your English, second will be the change in personality. I can safely vouch for it.
Now you will ask me how come I stayed here for such a long time.
RE:RE:RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by swaroop tagore on Apr 03, 2008 07:29 AM Permalink
you are not worth living you must be thrown to the dogs.OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE A KANNADIKA SHOWS YOUR MINDSET WITH YOUR LOUSY 11 RULES ALL COOKED UP BY YOUR MIND NURSING PREJUDICE.did u take bath? you are stinkin like a pig jhonny.WANT WATER THRU REVERSE OSMOSIS?
RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by Hari on Apr 03, 2008 07:18 AM Permalink
Now you will ask me how come I stayed here for such a long time.
Well, I worked almost isolatedly and was lucky to be under people who were from other parts of India or stayed in other parts of India. And I had a good run. Nevertheless, I had to spend many sleepless nights to get my job done. But I loved it, doing everything on my own. That I did as I am bachelor.
If you have a family or you are planning to have a family shortly, never ever think of working in Tamilnadu. In case you come, ensure to follow the rules and have your own friend circles. Otherwise, this village city will be a HELL.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by Hari on Apr 03, 2008 07:02 AM Permalink
Now you will ask me how come I stayed here for such a long time.
Well, I worked almost isolatedly and was lucky to be under people who were from other parts of India or stayed in other parts of India. And I had a good run. Nevertheless, I had to spend many sleepless nights to get my job done. But I loved it, doing everything on my own. That I did as I am bachelor.
If you have a family or you are planning to have a family shortly, never ever think of working in Tamilnadu. In case you come, ensure to follow the rules and have your own friend circles. Otherwise, this village city will be a HELL.
RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by Padmashree on Apr 03, 2008 07:11 AM Permalink
Hari that was just marvelous.. I found this difference when I was there in SBI for a 10 days training. My mgr was almost beaten. & we fled to Hyd 9 980 123 763
RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by vijayakannan gdhj on Apr 03, 2008 07:09 AM Permalink
Karnataka with Maharashtra.. Kannadiga fight with Maharashtra for Belgaum... Karnataka with AndraPradesh... Karnataka fights with AP for Krishna river... Karnataka with Kerala.... Karnataka fights with Kerala on border... Karnataka with Tamil Nadu... Karnataka fights with Tamil Nadu over a water project which is supposed to use water on TN's side.Remember TN never objected to Bangalore water scheme...all of a sudden these kannadiga fools claim Hosur and Hogennakkal to be part of karnatka....where ever cauvery or Krishna or Godavari flows belongs to karnataka,,,,crazy kannadigas.....
RE:RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by THIYAGARAJAN NAVANEETHAKRISHNAN on Apr 03, 2008 07:03 AM Permalink
DONT TALK ABOUT RAJINIKANTH IN THIS AFTER WATCHING HIM IN FILMS FOR MORE THAN 25 YEARS AND ENJOYING HIS GIMMICS U R NOW REALISING THAT HE IS NOT A TAMIL HE IS A KANNADIAN ITS TOTALLY RUBBISH
RE:RE:Rules for Non-Tamils in Tamilnadu
by Hari on Apr 03, 2008 07:07 AM Permalink
I have seen Rajaniknatha in many software professional desktop and they pray him every morning when they come to office.
Can anyone believe that (Indians --> meaning non-Tamilians)??
tamils are always been in the receiving side i hate people who bring controversies and politics in tamil rights issue but after seeing mr ediyurappa and mr vattal nagaraj activities i support those people. still i beleive this issue will be resolved in the near future bcos the leaders of karnataka are running a political drama over this issue as their assembly elections are in due. so i request all my tamil people to calm down for a while. but my kannadian brothers dont think that we are cowards as we are always been in the receiving side. we know how to hit back at you but still beleive that you are all our brothers dont let the politicians to bring controversies between us. "tamilan endru sollada talai nimirndu nillada" jaihind
RE:its time to defend
by puli on Apr 03, 2008 06:58 AM Permalink
it's interesting that you did not mention one word about being Indian, but has used a quote for tamils to address themselves as tamil and be proud of it. That too in a national forum. Are you a Sri Lankan tamil?
RE:RE:its time to defend
by swaroop tagore on Apr 03, 2008 07:46 AM Permalink
when time comes all of us tamils will unite and face anyone please be rest assured.
RE:its time to defend
by jalak Dikhlaja on Apr 03, 2008 08:04 AM Permalink
Oyay..lunatic..Check your lungi..is it still on.. or you lost it with your jingoistic jumping...
RE:RE:its time to defend
by Manoj Kumar on Apr 03, 2008 01:21 PM Permalink
I dont know y u guys are not stopping your nonsense. Mr. Thiyagarajan, this is not the right way to express your feeling and thoughts. Please bear in mind that we are all indians.
RE:its time to defend
by Eagle on Apr 03, 2008 06:48 AM Permalink
You are right, we are watching 1)How LTTE operates? 2)How Ex PM killed? 3)How Lord Ram abused by Karuna? 4)How TN central ministers cheat and spending central Money in TN only? 5)Hindi opposition? 6)Ramsethu? 7)Unable to cope up with Malaya & Lanka. 8)Never supported Central Govt?
RE:its time to defend
by swaroop tagore on Apr 03, 2008 07:44 AM Permalink
YOU DONT SUPPORT LTTE WE WILL SUPPORT BECOS THEY ARE TAMILIANS TOO. EX-PM WAS KILLED FOR HIS OWN FOLLY HE WAS NOT ABUSED HE SPOKE OUT FACTS SO DO MINISTERS FROM OTHER STATES ALWAYS BECOSE HINDI WAS IMPOSED ON TAMILS VERY JEALOUS THAT TUTICORIN WILL BECOME A CORRIDOR OF SOUTH EAST THE PROJECT WILL ENHANCE THE LIFE STYLE OF TAMILS SO A RELIGIOUS DIAMENSION HAS BEEN ADDED. WE ARE COPING UP WITH THEM ITS THE INDIAN GOVT THATS ARMING SRI LANKA TO KILL TAMILS WE OFFER CONDITIONAL SUPPORT BECOS TAMILS HAVE BEEN CHEATED AND TREATED LIKE BLACKS BY NORTH INDIAN RULERS.
I just can't imagine when it will to real shortage of water,a dinstict possibilty with the present population growth plus migraion to Karnataka from out side there will be a real war with people resorting to extreme voilence.
RE:india is great!
by Ravi Nair on Apr 03, 2008 08:25 AM Permalink
The british have gone, no one is threatning Indians,so its time to go our own seperate ways and nations, jai hind. It was good uniting to get the british out. That problem is over, lets now focus in our own cultures and ethnic groups Its a fact. Each state is capable of taking care of itself. We can have a military and economic union and still be separate countries.
