The books which he quotes from in Tamil and Bengali were written 1000s of years after Valmiki Ramayan - the original book from whom Tulsi das was inspired ...
Dont quote these unauthentic versions which were written 1000s of years later ...
If today after 1400 years I write a book saying that Khadija was Muhammed's mother and that makes your prophet a mothrfckkrr, would u agree ? I would NOT
So, dont behave like a reatrded, imbecile kid! Rather, be ashamed of those autheentic hadiths which show your prophet in such a bad light
Finally, can u swear in the name of Allah that what u write, u know it to be true? I can swear in Shri Ram's name, that what u write is not true ... So dont dig your own grave by citing false sources like Aranya Kandam (tamil)
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by Ibnameer on Apr 01, 2008 06:25 PM Permalink
Boss..the translation is not done by Christian missioneries or Madrassas..itz done by a Hindu...by a brahmin.....is brahmin writes ill about Ram???Is a hindu writes wrong stories??? WHAT LEADERS SAY ABOUT GOD RAMA? Gandhiji: "My Rama (god Rama) is not the Rama of Ramayana".
"The Ramayana and Mahabaratha are nothing but another Arabian Nights story" - JAWAHERLAL NEHRU
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by Web Monkey on Apr 01, 2008 06:37 PM Permalink
Hinduism and Christainity along with many other religion, doesnt bother about individuals opinion. Killing people who doesnt have same opinion is something no religion should teach. Islam is just a religions by and for barbarians. Dont try to say a brahmin said so and foolishness so on. There are so many brahmins with differnt opinion. Islam will never understand tolerance, but lot of other religions do.
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 06:32 PM Permalink
Yes, similarly all other religious scriptures are also creations of surrealistic visionaries. Why single out only one?
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by Ibnameer on Apr 01, 2008 06:40 PM Permalink
If u dnt agree it is not authentic......u r yet to understand it....if the source is wrong the why should a hindu translate it???? HAve u ever seen Bukhari book???? Dnt copy and abuse it with some anti-muslim documents
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 06:22 PM Permalink
Hope u get the message .. else next time u post, swear in allah's name that u know what is true !
RE:@Ibanmeer : DONT QUOTE UNAUTHENTIC VERSIONS OF RAMAYAN
by Gyan Vedi on Apr 01, 2008 06:48 PM Permalink
LISTEN UP IMBECILE MIND: i m not questioning the translation, i am questioning the source itself ... these are untrue ! For example, the Bengali version quoted was a work of fiction, a ballad written for plays ... u cant treat those as authentic
Finally, do u want me to quote what great thinkker Bertnand Russel thinks about Muhammed !
Also, leave later leaders: Consider this Hadith:
Bukhari,Volume 1, Book 6, Number 299:
Narrated 'Abdur-Rahman bin Al-Aswad:
(on the authority of his father) 'Aisha said: "Whenever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle anyone of us during her periods (menses), he used to order her to put on an Izar and start fondling her." 'Aisha added, "None of you could control his sexual desires as the Prophet could."
Bukhar, iVolume 1, Book 6, Number 300:
Narrated Maimuna:
When ever Allah's Apostle wanted to fondle any of his wives during the periods (menses), he used to ask her to wear an Izar
There are mamny such other hadiths , which are authentic and written by muslims only ! GOT IT ? Should I quote more of thses ? These are original sources, unlike the derived sources u quote
RE:Coming Up :
by its me on Apr 01, 2008 06:28 PM Permalink
Muslims systimatically used word /last/ because it is easy for them to challenge others phophet on this ground. in process they banned even god to come to earth again. But /Geeta/ quote God will come whenever and whereeve he needed.
Did you know - Quran (4:34) orders a man to beat his wife if she doesn't obey him? Quran 4:34: Men are the maintainers of women because Allah has made some of them to excel others and because they spend out of their property; the good women are therefore obedient, guarding the unseen as Allah has guarded; and (as to) those on whose part you fear desertion, admonish them, and leave them alone in their sleeping places and beat them; then if they obey you, do not seek a way against them; surely Allah is High, Great.
RE:BURN QURAN & MANU SMRITI
by its me on Apr 01, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
Manu smriti never said. caste by birth but by karma. Caste is essential for life. one thing is different from other it is called world. when you stop creation of caste(jati) , world destroys.
RE:BURN QURAN & MANU SMRITI
by JGN on Apr 01, 2008 06:14 PM Permalink
Pl download The Necessity of Atheism by Dr. D.M. Brooks from Project Gutenberg (freely available) to understand the futility of religions.
RE:RE:BURN QURAN & MANU SMRITI
by Palani on Apr 01, 2008 06:17 PM Permalink
"Philosopher, orator, apostle, legislator, warrior, conqueror of ideas, restorer of rational dogmas, of a cult without images; the founder of twenty terrestrial empires and of one spiritual empire, that is Muhammad. As regards all standards by which human greatness may be measured, we may well ask, is there any man greater than he?" Lamartine, HISTOIRE DE LA TURQUIE, Paris, 1854, Vol. II, pp. 276-277.
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by Palani on Apr 01, 2008 06:21 PM Permalink
"It is impossible for anyone who studies the life and character of the great Prophet of Arabia, who knows how he taught and how he lived, to feel anything but reverence for that mighty Prophet, one of the great messengers of the Supreme. And although in what I put to you I shall say many things which may be familiar to many, yet I myself feel whenever I re-read them, a new way of admiration, a new sense of reverence for that mighty Arabian teacher." Annie Besant, THE LIFE AND TEACHINGS OF MUHAMMAD, Madras, 1932, p. 4.
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by Palani on Apr 01, 2008 06:18 PM Permalink
"It is not the propagation but the permanency of his religion that deserves our wonder, the same pure and perfect impression which he engraved at Mecca and Medina is preserved, after the revolutions of twelve centuries by the Indian, the African and the Turkish proselytes of the Koran. . . The Mahometans have uniformly withstood the temptation of reducing the object of their faith an devotion to a level with the senses and imagination of man. 'I believe in One God and Mahomet the Apostle of God,' is the simple and invariable profession of Islam. The intellectual image of the Deity has never been degraded by any visible idol; the honours of the prophet have never transgressed the measure of human virtue, and his living precepts have restrained the gratitude of his disciples within the bounds of reason and religion." Edward Gibbon and Simon Ocklay, HISTORY OF THE SARACEN EMPIRE, London, 1870, p. 54.
RE:RE:RE:BURN QURAN & MANU SMRITI
by Palani on Apr 01, 2008 06:20 PM Permalink
"He was Caesar and Pope in one; but he was Pope without Pope's pretensions, Caesar without the legions of Caesar: without a standing army, without a bodyguard, without a palace, without a fixed revenue; if ever any man had the right to say that he ruled by the right divine, it was Mohammed, for he had all the power without its instruments and without its supports." Bosworth Smith, MOHAMMAD AND MOHAMMADANISM, London, 1874, p. 92.
kashmir herald oct.2004 Indian Census and Muslim population growth Vinod Kumar
I, personally, was not at all surprised; alarmed, yes -- but surprised -- no, by the "revelations" of the Census 2001. The Muslim population growth in India at one and half times the rate of Hindu population growth rate is no "revelation" and given the Hindu mindset and priorities neither is the decline in the rate of growth of Hindu population.. The broad outlines have been there for centuries for anyone to see, if only one was willing to face the reality. In broad terms, the Muslim population in India has been growing in geometrical progression vis-?is Hindus who have been growing in arithmetical progression. And with the improvement of educational and economic level of the Hindus, the disparity has become even more pronounced. To put it in broader perspective, Muslim population has steadily grown from 13% in 1800 to 16% in 1850 to 20% in 1900 to 25% in 1947 and anywhere between 30 to 33% today taking into account the geographical area of pre-partitioned India. These statistics are available from various sources.
The high rate of Muslim population is not unique to India alone. Barring the isolated case of Indonesia, Muslim population growth outpaces almost every other group in just about any country in the world.
Almost ten years ago, I had analyzed the 1961 and 1991 census. The growth disparity even in the two were almost identical to one between the 1991 and 2001. Between 1961 and 1991 Muslim population had grown by 133.66% as compared to Hindu growth of 89.24% -- the Muslim population growth being 150% of the Hindu population growth.
To bring it up to date -- Between 1961 and 2001, in absolute numbers, the Hindu population has grown from 366 million to 827 million - a growth of 126% while the Muslim population in the same period grew from 47 million to 138 million -- a growth of 193 per cent. The Muslim population growth was consistent at about 50 per cent higher than the Hindu population. What is more alarming is that Hindu population growth rate has declined from 25% in the previous decades to about 20% in the decade preceding the Census while the Muslim population growth , if not increased, as the initial data had indicated, it has almost remained constant, and if declined, only marginally so. It is still a high of around 30%. The hoopla caused by census 2001 release just goes to show the hypocrisy of politicians of all hues. The controversy regarding the lack of census in J&K and Assam in 1991 and 1981 respectively, while it may satisfy the appetite of the secularists
