Citing the example of Mr Baba of shirdi.He was a religious devout, praying five times a day and following other pillars of islam.Always reciting Allah Malik Hai. You guys dont think the fact and divert your brains by corrupting the real things. You dont pray whom he used to pray. It was through his prayers that he got those amazing powers of cure, like many real babas get.You guys pick one of them and make them your god. There is one cigratte baba in gujrat, it was shown in one of the news channel, few mlas and mps were offering him cigrattes and praying before him.This is insane.Please change your self. God has given you this gift of brain to learn and think.Dont block your heart and mind, open them, study the realities, think and then decide.Your ancestors prayed brahma and his wife saraswati, in reality they are prophet abraham and his wife sarah..to be honest they are just one of the thousands prophets who came to his world for the betterment of humanity.you cant pray a prophet,not even prophet mohammed, you can only pray their creator.I request you friends not to enjoin in sin, you are not illetrate like your ancestors.You have internet and wide varitey of books, read gita, ramayan, vedas, upanishads and relate them to the holy book of zorastrians jews christians muslims n all those, who pray the lord whom prophet abraham used to pray!!!!
RE:One True Incidents!!
by Arjun Periyar on Sep 30, 2007 03:15 PM Permalink
Who are you to dictate other about their faith? Do you have any extra organ because you pray by your way? My friend, this beautiful earth has been created as a blessings to all living species on the earth. Let us not try to damamge this beautiful world on the name of the God. The God has given eaqual justice to every living speies & is not expecting anything from you. It is upto you whehter you pray for him or not. But you should have no business to decide who is KAFIR & who is not. GOD has not given any right to you or your profet to decise the fate of other people. The biggest problem with Isalm is this religion is propagating killings of non-muslims on the name of GOD. This is the biggest hippocracy in the history of man kind. For the past many centuries, Muslim rulers are murdering millions of non-muslims on the name of GOD. What kind of worship you are talking about? First remove the nonsence things from Koran & then teach others.
RE:One True Incidents!!
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
Many modern day babas are fraud, both hindus and muslims babas alike. So dont try to play holier than thou attitude. I agree about Shirdi Saibaba, he prayed five times a day, lived in mosque and said Allah Malik hain. And the broad minded hindus bereft of any prejudices, were able to see his greatness.
Definitely agree that the people killed in Godhra Carnage were innocent and it was an act of terror which should be condemned. If anyone is guilty of those acts then he should be tried and hanged. However if we condemn them as acts of terror, then we should also measure the acts of the Modi's act of Revenge also as terror. Only thing different in between them is that one is done by a man who belongs to Minority and the other by a man who is sitting in a Chief Minister's Office and claims to be the Chief Minister of Gujarat. More people have died in Gujarat because of Modi's exploits.Who is going to try Him?
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by Zed on Sep 30, 2007 02:46 PM Permalink
The godhra act of terror, which should have been condemned was not condemned by any one and now muslims like you are agree to condemn that (although with some ifs and buts)only because what happened after that... Modi did a good job ...by teaching muslims a lesson... I am sure that there will be no rights is gujarat because now the muslims know the consequences..
You have been talking so much below, can you please tell me the state of affairs of the Minorities in the Neighbouring countries ??? Talk facts ! where do they stand ???
Can you show me one real secular country where you have a domination in numbers ??
Talk something sensible ??? Gujarat is act to be condemned by one and all. But someone has created this spark for this outburst and anger.
Can you please one outfit in India which is lead by your community having a secular name, please name few... MIM, IUML MBT, etc
Now you can tell me who is tolerant who is not ???
You want to tell me your behaviour and attitude when you become a Majority ??
Dont compare your ME people, the lived and existed for thousands of years. After all there is always a difference between an "Original and a Duplicate". A duplicate is duplicate which cannot be original ever.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
IDOIT SURYA , HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF MASSACARE OF HINDUS IN PAKISTAN AFTER INDEPENDENCE .. HAVE YOU HAVE YOU HEARD OF MASSACRE OF HINDUS IN BANGLADESH... HAVE YOU HEARD OF HINDUS BEING MASSACARED IN ANY MUSLIMS COUNTRY... INDONESIA AND MALAYSIA.. INDIA IS THE ONLY COUNTRY ON THIS PLANET WERE HINDU TERRORIST ROAM FREELY AFTER COMMITING MASSACRE OF MINORITIES. WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PEOPLE WHO BURNED THE AUSTRALIAN PREAT AND HIS SON ALIVE INSIDE THE CAR... THIS HAPPENS IN ONLY SECULAR COUNTRY LIKE INDIA.. AND YOU ARE COMPARING WITH ME DICTATORIAL COUNTRIES. ATLEAST THERE THEY DONT MASSACRE THEIR MINORITIES LIKE IN INDIA... HINDUISM DOES NOT TEACHES TOLERANCE AT ALL. IT TEACHES TERRORISM. LIKE HANUMAN MAKING A BARGAIN WITH RAM FOR KILLING HIS BROTHER.. PANDAVS GAMBLING AND USING THEIR BROTHERS WIFES... WOMENS RIGHTS VIOLATION. SHIVA CHOPPING OFF HIS SONS HEAD IN ANGER... ARROGANCE AND BARBARISM.. THIS IS WHAT IT STANDS FOR ACCORDING TO YOUR TEXT. AND IDIOT LIKE YOU CLAIM TO BE TOLERANT.. HINDUISM MAJORITY OF FOLLOWERS ARE TOLERANT AS MULSIMS ARE.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by Surya Kanishka on Sep 30, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
Have you heard of Secularised and censored Press ?? No where else you will find except in India.
Can you Please tell us what happened to 33% of Minorities living in Pak ?? why is that they have become less tham 1% ???
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by Mohammed Ahmed on Sep 30, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
Because they are converting to Islam, Take example of Yousuf Youhana to Mohammed Yousuf
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
many muslim girls want to convert to christianity but becoz of fear of death, they cannot. i feel really sorry for them. Allah give them the strength to convert to Christianity.
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
THE SAME GOES FOR MUSLIMS WHO MIGRATED FROM INDIA TO PAKISTAN . THEY HAVE ALSO MOVED TO US AND UK. SIMILARLY THERE IS STILL 12% MINORITY OF HINDUS IN PAKISTAN. WHO PRACTICE THEIR RELIGION AND HAVE TEMPLES AND PERFORM THEIR FORMALITIES. IF NOT THEN THE WESTERN MEDIA WOULD HAVE GRABBED THIS WOULD HAVE SENSATIONALISED IT... KEEP IT YOUR TWISTED HEAD.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
Plight of Hindus in Bangladesh http://www.mukto-mona.com/human_rights/ethnic_clensing_Bangladesh.html http://www.hindu.com/2007/05/27/stori es/2007052702291100.htm Plight of Hindus in Pakistan http://www.theconservativevoice.com/article/21634.html
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 01:31 PM Permalink
YOU PICK AN ANTI MUSLIMS SITE FULL OF FABRICATION AND THEN SAY THIS HAS HAPPENED. LIKE THIS INCIDENCE OCCURE DAILY IN EVERY VILLAGE IN INDIA AGAINST MUSLIMS. THIS ONE INCIDENT IN PAKISTAN DOES NOT CONSTITUTE ANYTHING... OK AND WHAT ABOUT THE MASSACRE OF MUSLIMS IN MUMBAI AND GUJURAT COIMBATORE BANGALORE HYDERABAD.. ALSO POLICE AND ARMY ALSO OPENLY TAKE PART IN THIS MASSACRE INCLUDING THE STATE ... AND YOU HAVE NO SHAME AND DIVERT TO PAKISTAN. WHAT ABOUT HINDUS OF PAKISTAN WHO WERE ORDERED TO RETURN BACK TO INDIA... THEY BLUNTLY REFUSED... NOW ASK YOUR TWISTED HEAD WHY WAS IT THAT THEY REFUSED WHEN INDIAN GOVT WAS WILLING TO GIVE THEM FULL FINANCIAL HELP
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 01:25 PM Permalink
How we Hindus practice our religion is none of your business. We don't care how you practice your religion except that it affects us. In fact your religion is a threat to civilization everywhere.
RE:RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
HOW DOES ISLAM AFFECT YOU. YOU ARE PICKING ON US. WHAT IS YOUR CIVILIZATION... DRINKING COWS URINE AS SHOWN IN MOVIE LAJJA TAKING COWS DUNK AND PUTTING IN YOUR HOMES.. WORSHIPPING RATS MONKEYS AND ELEPHANTS AND YOU CLAIM TO BE CIVILIZATED... YOU BOOK PREACHES KRISHNA TO BE A CRAZY AFTER WOMEN. CASTE SYSTEM TO EXPLOIT LOW CASTE PEOPLE SATI A VIOLATION OF WOMENS RIGHTS.. THAT IS CIVILIZATION
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by silenzer on Sep 30, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
To Tan:
So why do muslims have problems with every non-muslim religion in the world? Kashmir, Palestine, Chechnya, Bosnia, France, England, 9-11 just to name a few... Why do ur brothers recite from Quran while they behead hostages? It has got something to do with MoHAMMED. So instead of accusing others of mistreating muslims first of all refine Quran and your mindset....Declare boldly that Muhammad was a pedophile, mass murderer and a narcissist. Your ancestors were forced to accept Islam...I hope this is enough for u.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 01:11 PM Permalink
Yes Surya,Whe we have to bothered about what is happening in our neighbouring countries.Muslim of India lives in India & It is a fact.If something is happening somewhere,We Indian Muslims are not responsible for it.You mean to Justify the atrocities on Indian Muslim as some kinda revenge.Because it is Happening in neighbouring Countries,So You people think it is right to Kill muslims in India.How can you justify any Killings.We live in India & the things which Happens here Affects our lives. Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong? The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims like me are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of. The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. You will understand the pain if you loose any of your family member, so stop atrocities against any community and promote peace. This is the only path to prosperity. Discrimination will destroy the whole community.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by mallick on Sep 30, 2007 01:29 PM Permalink
idiot surya ,is there any muslim country ,where hindu killed by muslim, even there is dectetorship ,like saudi and duabi ,especially dubai hindu is dancing there
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:36 PM Permalink
feeding 150 million muslims is not a joke. the muslim goondas kill double the number of hindu kaafirs every year, that are killed by hindu mobs once in five year.
RE:RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:43 PM Permalink
If Saudi is the home of Sunni Muslims, why did Saudi authorities throw out 1000s of Paki and Indo Sunni Muslims who were overstaying? They had every right to stay and die in their Prophet's land, which is every Muslim's dream.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by Indian on Sep 30, 2007 02:10 PM Permalink
Lots of Hindu's are enjoying in Gulf countries and earning lot of money..... And some idiots are writing false statments here.
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:38 PM Permalink
only illiterate boot polishers, electricians, plumbers go to gulf. educated hindus prefer the secular europe and advanced north america. dont be so proud of Gulf countries, what they think of Indian and Pakistani Muslims will disturb your sleep for years.
RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
For every hindu living in Gulf, we are supporting and feeding 100 muslims. Go and check this, illegal migrant from Bangladesh. No productive value, reading arabic and farsi and always complaining, freting and crying about discrimination. Try to be like Sikhs and Christians and cry less.
RE:RE:RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:40 PM Permalink
The Arabs treat indian and paki sunni muslims as their slaves, worthy of contempt and all the guys living in Gulf know this. But it takes guts to accept these things. 60 year old arabs keep 7 year pakistani girls in harems, even though she may be wahabi sunni muslim girl. Just chew on this for today and debate tomorrow.
RE:Godhra!Who will Hang Modi?
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
In Saudi Arabia, they threw out momeen Banglas and Pakis overstaying. Too bad, wahabis. Like this Sharjah match, the hindus staying in Gulf will return, but mulla Bangladeshis will never leave India.
Islam is evil which is nothing but a mad cow disease.One who is infected by this relegion becomes a threat to other communites and society.Islam can never co-exist and tolerant.It only breeds hatred towards other relegions.
RE:Islamic,
by aamirkhan on Sep 30, 2007 12:31 PM Permalink
you idiot ravi kumar do you know muslim counties turkey ,malaysia, kazaksthan, azerbhaijan, turkmenistan,tajiskistan and european moslem counties like bosnia and albania are dislipened and developed.you illterate bugger know islam first and look it says to belive in only one god and how true it is becoz creator has to b only one to keep universe in equilibrium since so many years
See the intolerance in you ?? and you want us to tolerate your s*hit ??? These countries prosper cus majority of the Population have family planning. DO YOU KNOW THIS ????
RE:RE:Islamic,
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Surya,Who are you to decide on the fate on Muslims. There is no right wing Muslim party that get any support from Muslims in contrast to my hindu brethen are proud to vote for right wing hindusim. As a civlised person you must know that right wing Hinduism is no different from right wing Islam or any right wing philosophy. Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong? Muslims of India will remain in india and it is a fact. In contrast you elected the BJP for religious reasons and for bringing down Babari. You elected BJP in Gujarat for murdering Muslims,so who are more tolerant?You support terror based parties like Bajrang dal, Shiv Sena, RSS, which openly promotes hatred for muslims. What do you mean by terrorism? Is it only planting bombs? No, planting hatred is also a kind of terrorism. In fact that is the root of all terrorist activities.You people are worse than a terrorist. This country is for everybody who is loving & peaceful and think of devoplopment of this nation.
RE:RE:RE:Islamic,
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
You think BJP is a communal party because they want a uniform civil code? Congress is secular because they want special priveleges for muslims?
RE:Islamic,
by Indian on Sep 30, 2007 02:11 PM Permalink
Lots of Hindu's are enjoying in Gulf countries and earning lot of money..... And some idiots are writing false statments here.
RE:Islamic,
by aceventura on Sep 30, 2007 01:41 PM Permalink
why do you drag muslim into Politics , by the way which muslim do you think is in favour of any political party,they were betrayed by congress which was in power when the mosque was demolished, they were brutally massacred in Gujrat when bjp was and is in power and they have nothing to do with DMK so where do you think we are in favour or deny the role of your problems.
RE:RE:RE:RE:Islamic,
by aceventura on Sep 30, 2007 01:43 PM Permalink
You People always talks about muslim appeasement when actually there is nothing like that. The muslims are one of the most backward groups in india.if they were appeased,why are they in that position? Can Anyone tell me what your so called Nationalistic parties did with the money they collected in the name of RAM MANDIR? Please Answer...
RE:RE:Islamic,
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 12:54 PM Permalink
Muslims in India are backward because of Islam. They will have to give up Islam if they want to progress. Otherwise even reservations will not help them.
RE:RE:Islamic,
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
Turkish military has kept Islamists at bay. Malaysia's economic progress is because of the Chinese population - who are now slowly taking their money out of Malaysia. The other countries you mention are backward.
RE:Islamic,
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
well what ever what has democratic india given. massacaring of minority people...
malaysia is a mulsim country and it is progressing and who ever it is the country as a whole is on the verge of becoming a developed country... so shut up
RE:Islamic,
by bnsl on Sep 30, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
Malaysia's economic progress is because of the non-muslim chinese population. The muslim malays are parasites because they are given special priveleges. This how Hindus are treated in Malaysia http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6278568.stm
RE:Islamic,
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
In these Forums,lots of People are posing as something else & writing hate messages against various religions.I think India have to be vigilant against these divisive forces who are hypocrites & cowards.Why anyone have to pose as a member of other faith & say bad thing about his faith.What is the motive.These people are only trying to create rifts between different communities.so beware of these elements & Ignore them.
RE:Islamic,
by Arjun Periyar on Sep 30, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail, By the kind of language you are using, you seem to be a modern muslim, at least not a relious fanatic like most of your other colleagues. But still why are you afraid of condemning the killings of Hindus in Kashmir & Bangladesh. Why are you again & again selectively criticising about the Muslims killed in Gujarat riots. You are totally hyppocratic in your statements. Following is the reality. 1. Muslim terrorism is the biggest threat to the integrity of the nation. This is because the muslim community in India will either support terrorism or will remain neutral. But no muslim will get actively invilved in combating islamic terrorism. The country is not getting any benefit from inllectual muslims like you. 2. Muslims live in peace under only two conditions; 1. when they are in minority or 2. when they are in mejority. In the first case, they are conditioned to live in peace because of the fear hostile reaction from the society. In the second case, they simply dominate the entire society. 3. In no part of the world, there is peace where the muslims are in sizable mejority or minority. Unfortunately, India is approaching this situation in the coming years due to unproportionate growth in the muslim population. 4. The only answer to this problem is the aggressive Hindu unity which will effectively combat this religious poison.
RE:Islamic,
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Dear Arjun,Whe we have to be bothered about what is happening in our neighbouring countries.If something is happening somewhere,We Indian Muslims are not responsible for it.You mean to Justify the atrocities on Indian Muslim as some kinda revenge.Because it is Happening in neighbouring Countries,So You people think it is right to Kill muslims in India.How can you justify any Killings.We live in India & the things which Happens here Affects our lives. According to you all are same.First tell me who is fighting in India.Your mindset is so fixed.Dont forget the Bombay riots and Massacre in Gujarat? The Slogan in both of the above were to Loot and destroy muslim property and spare the Hindu property.Muslims have been pushed backward again and again, do you think its fair? The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of.The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. In my entire life i never came across any of my member who is fighting in the name of religion.Brother there is no such things as you think.Actually media has distorted all the truth.It is your myth..Muslim populations is 15crores.Even if one percent of that population becomes radical,they can turn the whole India upside-down.But that is not happening.That means muslim as a whole is not involved in any radical activites otherwise there would be bombing every second in our cities.The vast majority of
RE:RE:Islamic,
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 01:20 PM Permalink
.The vast majority of law-abiding, righteous Muslims, however, do not make the headlines, the way deviants do.Brother,I hope i answer your question.
Muslims are NOT voting for secular parties... but for "PRO-MUSLIM" parties... There are no secualr parties in India.. Muslims never understand the language of peace and love. They need to be forced to keep peace. Its unfortunate that Nehru-Gandhi leadership didn't ask for complete exchange of Hindus and Muslims and congress leaders left us to deal with this "Muslim - Problem".. Noe we can't throw them out... so we need to force them into peace by making the consequence of attacking a Hindu visible and clear... What happened to Hindus in Kashmir should not happen elsewhere
RE:Do Muslims vote for secular parties?
by Ravikumar on Sep 30, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
What he has said is correct. U muslims vote for pro-muslim parties while hindus vote for pro-devlopment parties.
Our Political Parties never focus on real issues like Poverty,Unemployment,development,etc.But they keep on harping on Non-Issues such as Ram Sethu Bridge & Godhra.I mean what a common man will benefit from such an issue.All Political Parties are Nonsense & Only ordinary People Suffers..Why No ones talks about ROTI,KAPDA & MAKAAN.Corruption is Rampant in our Society & our political parties are mixing religion with Politics & Politicising the whole issue to DIVERT the people from the real issues such as Poverty & Unemployments.Actually All parties are taking us for a ride & we all silly people are falling in to their trap. Unless and until Indians remain vigilant and wary they may again be consigned to the dustbin of history to suffer eternal darkness and human bondage. SO Wake Up!! Brothers...
RE:Real Issues!!
by Zed on Sep 30, 2007 11:22 AM Permalink
Ya... for you Godhra is a non issue.. killing of Hindus are always a non issue for you seculars..
RE:Real Issues!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR FABRICATED STATS FROM. THERE IS NO RECORD OF PROOF OF YOUR CLAIM. LIAR
RE:Real Issues!!
by silenzer on Sep 30, 2007 03:31 PM Permalink
Muslims have a typical mindset... it is ok for muslims to destroy the civilizations of places like Iran, Iraq, India etc in the name of Islam. When someone scoffs at you, they say "Islam is in danger". Boy, people have read dracula book called Quran and hadees and they know the horrible mindset of muslims. The west has already dealt with them strongly; when Indians turn against you, you will have nobody to cry.
If Somethings happens somewhere,it is not our fault.You seem to be justifying the atrocities on muslim as some kinda revenge. I am sorry but not the muslims but just YOU are hateful. Brother,bury the past & look forward.Whatever i m expressing is my own personal views.I m not talking here on the behalf of any group or communities.These are my personal views & opinions.Whatever possible in my own ways i m putting forward my ideas. In my entire life i never came across any of my member who is fighting in the name of religion.Brother there is no such things as you think.Actually media has distorted all the truth.It is your myth.First clear your misconception & it is the duty of people like you to educate the member of your community about saying nonsense without investigating.
RE:Tataghata!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
I mean i never met anyone who is fighting in the name of Religion..According to you all are same.First tell me who is fighting in India.Your mindset is so fixed. If Something Happen somewhere,it is not our's Fault.Brother,Good & bad people exist in all section of the society.Such incidents which you mentioned above cannot be defended. Muslim populations in India is 15 crores.Even if one percent of that population becomes radical,they can turn the Whole India upside-down.But that is not happening.That means muslim as a whole is not involved in any radical activites otherwise there would be bombing every second in our Country.The vast majority of law-abiding, righteous Muslims, however, do not make the headlines, the way deviants do.Brother,I hope i answer your question.
RE:Tataghata!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
I never said that.Why you always dragging Muslim & painting them as Villains.Why you hate us so much. Who are you to decide on the fate on Muslims. Muslims of India will remain in india and it is a fact. My Friend if you want to live in Peace, Let the other community live in Peace as well, since the Demolition of Babri Masjid, Muslims of India have been facing a lot of injustice, the list is very big. Your statements are very biased & are only meant to promote hatred in the indian community.Why you cannot Preace,Why you always preaching Hatred towards Muslims. .I request you friends not to enjoin in sin, you are not illiterate like your ancestors.You have internet and wide varitey of books, read gita, ramayan, vedas, upanishads and relate them to the holy book of zorastrians jews christians muslims n all those, & analyse them.
RE:Tataghata!!
by silenzer on Sep 30, 2007 03:33 PM Permalink
Who destroyed Zoroastrian civilization? The dirty arabs... Will muslims accept it. No it is OK to do anything with kaffirs so that they should be brought to the dirty law of Allah.
Understand that Muhammad was a pedophile, mass murderer and a narcissist. Till then the problem of islam will persist... Many muslims are leaving Islam...
RE:Tataghata!!
by tan on Sep 30, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
WHERE DID YOU GET YOUR FABRICATED STATS FROM. THERE IS NO RECORD OF PROOF OF YOU CLAIM. LIAR. YOU LIES ARE JUST LIKE THE LIES WRITTEN IN RAMAYAN AND MAHABHARATH
Tataghata,What a Crap you are!!Am I saying anything about anyone's Faith,then how come you say against about our Faith.There must be atleast some authenticity in what you are telling. If I tell that you are a son of George Bush and you are born to a man not woman, will anybody believe? Why do you always drag muslim into this by the way which muslim do you think is in favour of any political party,they were betrayed by congress which was in power when the mosque was demolished they were brutally massacred in Gujrat when bjp was and is in power and they have nothing to do with DMK so where do you think we are in favour or deny the role of your problem. The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims like me are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of.The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. You will understand the pain if you loose any of your family member, so stop atrocities against any community and promote peace. This is the only path to prosperity. Discrimination will destroy the whole community.
RE:Message to Tataghata(Muslim-Hater)
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
I did'nt killed anyone or i know anyone or met anyone in my life time who killed.maimed,raped,driven out 400,000 Kashmiri Hindus, and 15,000,000 Banglaeshi Hindu/Buddhists? If Some thing Happens Somewhere,It is not our's Fault.So you mean you are taking Revenge. Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong? 'Ask in order to understand, and do not ask in order to find fault, for surely the ignorant man who wants to learn resembles a man of knowledge, and surely a man of knowledge who wants to be difficult resembles an ignorant man who wants to find fault. ' Promote Peace Not Hatred.
RE:Message to Tataghata(Muslim-Hater)
by Zed on Sep 30, 2007 11:19 AM Permalink
Muslims are NOT voting for secular parties... but for "PRO-MUSLIM" parties... There are no secualr parties in India.. Muslims never understand the language of peace and love. They need to be forced to keep peace. Its unfortunate that Nehru-Gandhi leadership didn't ask for complete exchange of Hindus and Muslims and congress leaders left us to deal with this "Muslim - Problem".. Noe we can't throw them out... so we need to force them into peace by making the consequence of attacking a Hindu visible and clear... What happened to Hindus in Kashmir should not happen elsewhere
The Organisations like BJP, Shiv sena and RSS are fit for only making Propaganda.. If they have real love to the country means they have to go to Indian Border and Join Hand in Hand with Indian Army and fight against the Culprits... But these INLAND IMPOTENTS are fit for Politicizing, Killing, Raping of Downtrodden Minorities... Gang of 20 going and hiting a Poor guy is not a Masculine activity.. If they have real guts then they should Join with Indian Army and eliminate the Culprits.... But they dont have GUTS thats why they stay Inland and gain Cheap Votes by making RHETORIC speeches.
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 09:57 AM Permalink
What do you mean by terrorism? Is it only planting bombs? No planting hatred is also a kind of terrorism. In fact that is the root of all terrorist activities. You are worse than a terrorist. This country is for everybody who is loving peace and think of devoplopment of this nation. RSS has openly said that anyone who doesn't believe in Hindutva is not an Indian.There are lot of evidence regarding.RSS cadres are given weapon trainings(for what).Bajrang Dal has killed many christian missionaries.They openly promotes caste system.There is nothing in the name of Hindutva,which talks of one nation, one people ,one party, and one book.It is rather meant to enslave and impovereish the awakened Indian once again. Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong?
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
I am sorry but not the muslims but just YOU are hateful. How can you say that muslims always cause war? What about the war between European Nations. Are they muslims? What about world war II? It is the most destructive war of whole human history and Was there any muslim country in this war.?Was Hitler a muslim? I dont think so. I can write a long war list here. But please maybe you dont want to see the truth but just try not to make any slander to muslims and Allah.because he is not just muslim`s God. He is the God of every creature in the earth and universes. And afterlife you will learn this fact sorrowfully but it will be too late for you to regret. But you cannot be such respectful to any other faith because you dont have this in your religions.
RE:RE:RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 10:39 AM Permalink
Islam comes from the root word Salaam,which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt). The word Salaam is also an attribute of God. In this context, it means The Giver of Peace.Muslims greet each other with Salams which translates to wishing peace for one another.Thus peace is a goal that Muslims are required to strive for, in their own selves, in their families and in their communities.Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect,even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain. Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations.The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. May one ask,Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, and to the East coast of Africa ?
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by Surya Kanishka on Sep 30, 2007 12:40 PM Permalink
You are refering to the divided india only what about Bangladesh and Pakistan ?? where you fit this Population ?? And dont be oversmart, we are not stupids my friend.
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
the way chinese christians were killed by Indonesian mobs, is a shame in the history of mankind. so much for the true and only religion called islam, start cutting from birth.
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by amit jain on Sep 30, 2007 09:51 PM Permalink
I condemn Gujarat and Mumbai riots, now you have the balls and peeled banana to condemn atrocities on Kashmiri Hindus and Buddhists of Bangladesh.
RE:Just a Propaganda!!
by Dharma on Sep 30, 2007 09:51 AM Permalink
You think you can get people aganist BJP by repeating the same message. People understand your motive. Don't be fool.
BJP always selects issues which do not matter,but which have the effect of eroding the confidence of hindus. BJP picked the babri masjid issue and constantly kept focussing on demolition of temples. BJP insults the past generations and the present generations of hindus by its actions,which are meant to procure votes. when the people elect them,they never debate in parliament,they always walk out.it is an insult to democracy. BJP is in the business of making the hindus feel insecure and inferior ,to get votes. it always makes big fuss about non issues. A few of our educated friends have again fallen into the trap laid by the BJP. BJP proved in its previous election that RAM is nothing but a weapon for them.they are not at all interested in HINDU faith. BJP always talks about muslim appeasement when actually there is nothing like that. the muslims are one of the most backward groups in india.if they were appeased,why are they in that position? Can Anyone tell me what BJP did with the money they collected in the name of RAM MANDIR? Please Answer...
RE:Boycott BJP!!
by Milind on Sep 30, 2007 09:43 AM Permalink
Names dont make a message go down the trash !!! The "CONTENT" of the message does. So no matter whether IS writes it or TM...if a message is trash..it is trash.
RE:Boycott BJP!!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 09:45 AM Permalink
You are a Hate Monger.I am not afraid that's y i use my name openly.Why i have to be afraid. In these Forums,lots of People are posing as something else & writing hate messages against various religions.I think India have to be vigilant against these divisive forces who are hypocrites & cowards.Why anyone have to pose as a member of other faith & say bad thing about his faith.What is the motive.These people are only trying to create rifts between different communities.so beware of these elements & Ignore them.
I CONDEMN EVERY DEATH - IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR RELIGION, BE IN GUJ OR KASHMIR OR BANGLADESH.
BUT YOU CONDEMN ONLY 700 MUSLIM DEATH IN GUJ. AND CONVENIENTLY KEEP MUM ON 300 HINDU DEATH IN GUJ 2002, OR 400,000 KASHMIRI HINDUS, OR 15,000,000 BANGLADESHI HIndus.
You are a copy book fanatic Islamist who has no love for humanity.
RE:Boycott BJP!!
by prasanna venkatesan on Sep 30, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
hi friend, i understand your message, that if somebody in my community commits a crime, the entire community cannot be blamed. The same applies for other communities. Words cannot convince people, dont be disappointed because a couple of people in this column are against you. Do not form generalized opinions by reading the comments. The majority of people are living peacefully. My apartment has, hindus, christians and muslims living peacefully. Its just that it requires one fanatic idiot of a community and the words used by him/her to destroy the peace. It has been happening all over the world. Hopefully such fanatics reduce in number but unfortunately they are growing in number.
RE:Remember Banerjee Committee? Its report could not be even published in the Indian Parliament!
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 30, 2007 09:33 AM Permalink
Lets not get carried away and see the facts and stop representing hinduism here as you all are the worst ambassadors for secular hindus who reject facists and fanatics like the ones in these discussion groups.
RE:Remember Banerjee Committee? Its report could not be even published in the Indian Parliament!
by Tathagata Mukherjee on Sep 30, 2007 09:48 AM Permalink
And what happened to Secular Hindus in Bangladesh, Kashmir?
ahaa!
Listen man, stop this jehad. Else, be prepared to be clubbed with your jehadi coreligionists.
