I regret to say again that you are still not addressing the basic issue. You are writing about all other things which are not relevant. Please comment on the following specific points.
1. Do you support the killings of innocent people on the name of GOD? Islam is doing this sicnce its birth everywhere.
2. What is said in Koran about the KAFIR? Does it promote all kind of violence against KAFIR or non-belivers?
3. Nobody knows the exact form of the GOD. Your faith tell you that GOD is one & you have named him as Allah. The other communities also believe in GOD in some other forms. Then how it bothers Islam?
4. GOD has created everybody & given wisdom to everybody to live with. He never appointed your profet to order killing the people who don't beleive in him by your way. Killing the people (which are obviously created by GOD) on the name of the GOD is the biggest insult of the GOD.
5. You are saying that Isalm is for peace. But the history tells that peace has been lost wherever Isalm has entered. Islam has followed everywhere by sword & not by inspiration. Do not take you experiece in the last 28 years in Mumbai to verify this. You will have to study history of last many centuries with unbiased mindset.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by aceventura on Oct 06, 2007 09:52 AM Permalink
Brother ,Who is fighting tell me.According to you all are same.First tell me who is fighting in India.Your mindset is so fixed.Dont forget the Bombay riots and Massacre in Gujarat? The Slogan in both of the above were to Loot and destroy muslim property and spare the Hindu property.Muslims have been pushed backward again and again, do you think its fair? The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of.The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. You will understand the pain if you loose any of your family member,so stop atrocities against any community and promote peace. This is the only path to prosperity. Discrimination will destroy the whole community.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Arjun Periyar on Oct 04, 2007 02:31 PM Permalink
6. Do not try to glorify the Islamic rule in India. 80% of the country's Hindu population can never be proof of the tolerance of the Muslim invadors. It is existing because India was never completely ruled by the Muslim invadors. 20% of the Muslim population is the proof of the bloodshed & atrocities by the Muslim invadors. You may check your own history to find out how your ancestors were convetred to Muslim from Hindu religion.
7. Thousands of destroyed temples in the last many centuries (1100 A.D.) is the proof of tolerance of Isalm. If Islam is for peace then why it destroyed the civilization in India? There was a great hue & cry over the destruction of one mosque (Babri Mosque), then what should be done for the destruction of those thousands of temples which were not only the religious monuments but were also the symbols of our cultural heritage?
8. The world will become much more beautiful if Islam accepts tolerance & plural religious system existing the world. You should understand the you can love your religion without hating other's religion.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 07, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
Ignorant hindu hates Islam, but their hindu guru, Shankaracharya have great respects for Islam. ITS TIME FOR EDUCATED HINDU BROTHER TO UNDERSTAND THE FACT FROM THEIR RELEGIOUS GURU. Please refer to following video link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8zasuy9FBA
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 07, 2007 09:37 AM Permalink
Is it not the biggest terrorism to question the integrity of the other religion??? Whats terrorism for you? just killing people? then well mister there have been bigger acts of terrorism by many "fanatics"!!!!
Have some sense and speak man...try being tolerating and understand there is no religion that preaches killing people!
Do u even know that its clearly written in the Qur'an to respect all other religions?
And if some bunch of idiots are outthere it, then whats the difference between u and them?
I Am a muslim myself and i have friends and dear friends from all walks of faith. I dont think the way Osama does, i despise that and deny he is right, he is totally wrong. They are people who are doing such things in the name of religion, it is because they are not strong without masking their acts with religion. Understand THAT.
Should we go ahead and blame sikhism for the killing in Canada? Should the hindus be blamed for the 1984 riots? No I as an educated person do not find it reasonable to blame an entire religion because of a few ignorant fools who committed crime.
Arent u educated and aware to think like a sane person?
Again & again you are selectively pointing out the so called injustice / attacks on the muslims community in India. But if you look into the history of India, it is full of bloodshed of the native hindu people by the muslim invadors. Hindus were massacred in millions, those who did not resist were converted forcefully, the civilization was destroyed completely. And all this was done on the name of the GOD (you say Allah). Surprisingly, the next generations of the converted people started hating their original religion in order to prove their loyalty to their new community. Tolerance & patience are the two things which are totally missing in Islam. You have divided this beautiful earth as Muslim vs. Non.Muslims. You have totally forgotten that you can worship your religion better without hating other's religions. You have forgotten that GOD has created every living species on the earth & is expecting nothing from them. The GOD has not appointed your profet as police or judge to punish the people who are not worshipping by your way or to declare anyone as KAFIR. Islam has done the biggest insult of the GOD by killing the people from other religion on the name GOD. You will have to understand the fact that every human being has a right to exist on this earth irrespective of his faith of way of worship. You have no business to create disorder in this beautiful world & that too on the name of the creator.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by on Oct 26, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
There is lot of lies and propaganda against islam. Islam is a most scientific religion we hindus converted to Islam in India not because of sword but because of message of justice, peace and equality by Islam. After 9/11 incident american people inclined towards understanding Islam and within a year around 30,000 were converted to Islam.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 03, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
Brother Arjun,Who is fighting tell me.According to you all are same.First tell me who is fighting in India.Your mindset is so fixed.you are telling me to educate member of my communities about the futility of fighting in the name of religion.Brother,I am 28 years old & lives in Mumbai.In my entire life i never met any of my member who is fighting in the name of religion.Then you tell me,Brother whom should i educate?Brother there is no such things as you think.Actually media has distorted all the truth.It is your myth.First clear your misconception & it is the duty of people like you to educate the member of your community about saying nonsense without investigating.Why do you think People are embracing islam even in these era, because they understood the essence of islam, do not follow the media blindly. Media today is not to inform people, but to take them away from the reality and show them a totally different picture. The Middle Class and Lower Class Muslims like me are too busy making a living and supporting their families by what ever profession they are capable of.The more you hit the common man, the more you turn them your enemies. You will understand the pain if you loose any of your family member,so stop atrocities against any community and promote peace. This is the only path to prosperity. Discrimination will destroy the whole community.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 03, 2007 09:35 AM Permalink
I am sorry but not the muslims but just YOU are hateful. How can you say that muslims always cause war? What about the war between European Nations. Are they muslims? What about world war II? It is the most destructive war of whole human history and Was there any muslim country in this war.?Was Hitler a muslim? I dont think so. I can write a long war list here. But please maybe you dont want to see the truth but just try not to make any slander to muslims and Allah.because he is not just muslim`s God. He is the God of every creature in the earth and universes. And afterlife you will learn this fact sorrowfully but it will be too late for you to regret. But you cannot be such respectful to any other faith because you dont have this in your religions.Because of this you did CRUSADES.
RE:RE:Is this the true religion?
by Arjun Periyar on Oct 03, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
You are not understanding the basic issue. Do you support the killings of innocent people on the name of GOD? Nobody knows the exact form of the GOD. Your faith tell you that GOD is one & you have named him as Allah. The other communities also believe in GOD in some other forms. The real problem is Muslims are trying to hijack GOD since last many centuries & are doing all nonsense on the name of the GOD. This is the real problem. You are not understanding the fact GOD has created everybody & given wisdom to everybody to live with. He never appointed your profet to kill the people who don't beleive in him by your way. Killing the people (which are obviously created by GOD) on the name of the GOD is the biggest insult of the GOD. Hitler was more honest than the Muslim invadors as he did not kill the people on the name of the GOD.
RE:Is this the true religion?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 03, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Islam comes from the root word Salaam,which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt). The word Salaam is also an attribute of God. In this context, it means The Giver of Peace.Muslims greet each other with Salams which translates to wishing peace for one another.Thus peace is a goal that Muslims are required to strive for, in their own selves, in their families and in their communities.Traditionally Muslims have treated other religions with respect,even when they were in a position to use force.Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. During these 800 years, until Muslims were finally forced out by the crusaders, non-Muslims flourished in Spain. Muslims have ruled Arabia for 1400 years, except for brief periods of British and French rule. Yet there are today 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians whose families have been Christians going back several generations.The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. They had the power to forcibly convert each and every non-Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India is non-Muslim. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness to the fact that Islam was not spread by the sword.Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa. May one ask,Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia, and to the East coast of Africa ?
Whatever i m expressing is my own personal views.I m not talking here on the behalf of any group or communities.These are my personal views & opinions.Whatever possible in my own ways i m putting forward my ideas. RSS has openly said that anyone who doesn't believe in Hindutva is not an Indian.RSS cadres are given weapon trainings(for what).Bajrang Dal has killed many christian missionaries.They openly promotes caste system.There is nothing in the name of Hindutva,which talks of one nation, one people ,one party, and one book. What do you mean by terrorism? Is it only planting bombs? No planting hatred is also a kind of terrorism. In fact that is the root of all terrorist activities. The Sangh Parivar are worse than a terrorist. This country is for everybody who is loving peace and think of devoplopment of this nation.
RE:What do you mean by Terrorism?
by Ismail Sayyed on Oct 03, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
Your comments are not matured enough my friend. You are thinking about the religion and GOD from what you know. Do you know the very meaning of GOD, first understand that, then talk. Why do you think People are embracing islam even in these era, because they understood the essence of islam, do not follow the media blindly. Media today is not to inform people, but to take them away from the reality and show them a totally differrent picture
There is no right wing Muslim party that get any support from Muslims in contrast to my hindu brethen are proud to vote for right wing hindusim. As a civlised person you must know that right wing Hinduism is no different from right wing Islam or any right wing philosophy. In contrast Some Hindus elected the BJP for religious reasons and for bringing down Babari. They even elected BJP in Gujarat for murdering Muslims, so who are more tolerant? They support terror based parties like Bajrang dal, Shiv Sena, RSS, the list is endless.
Recently Hindu mobs have attacked Muslim villages after claims were made that cows had been slaughtered for the festivities of eid. In 2005, this caused the destruction of 40 homes and 3 deaths. A police investigation revealed that no cow had been slaughtered in the village. The Sangh Parivar openly preaches Hatred for all the Minorities.They specially hates Muslims. Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong?
There were widespread riots during the Partition of India in 1947, with attacks on Muslim minorities by Hindu and Sikh mobs. In 1992, the Babri Mosque was demolished by the Sangh Parivar family of organizations on the basis of their controversial assertion that a Hindu temple belonging to a Hindu god existed at the site before the erection of the Mosque. The demolition was followed by anti-Muslim riots in Mumbai allegedly perpetrated by the nativist Shiv Sena party. The Sangh Parivar family of organisations, has allegedly been involved in encouraging negative stereotyping of Muslims, and in the 2002 Gujarat violence they were allegedly responsible for encouraging attacks against Muslims.Another major incident was at Naroda Patia, where a Hindu mob, massacred more than 100 Muslims.In another incidence of Best Bakery, in city of Baroda, a complete family of 15 was massacred, raped and then burnt. Subsequent riots led to the death of 754 Muslims.Another major incident was at Naroda Patia, where a Hindu mob, massacred more than 100 Muslims.In another incident at Best Bakery, in the city of Baroda, a family of 12 was massacred and burnt.The Gujarat riots officially led to the death of 1044 people, 754 Muslims and 290 Hindus.Human Rights Watch puts the death toll at higher figures, with 2000 deaths, mostly Muslim, but with attacks against Hindus by Muslim mobs as well. Recently Hindu mobs have attacked Muslim villages after claims were made that cows had been slaughtered for the
