RE:RAM HAS REMAINED RELEVANT FOR SEVERAL MILLENNIA
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 03:12 AM Permalink
Ram is merely simulated character of mythological epic Ramayana. Ram and any other vedic god never existed. I understand as per vedic epic, Ram spoke Sanskrit. But history of sanskirt is not more than 2000 years old. so how could ram exists before 17million years ago. however if ram can save our country and how he was not able to save his own wife?
As per any scintific , rationalist work Ram, as well as any vedic god is mere imgaination of vedic culture.
There is no record of worshipping god anywhere in harappan civilization. No proof of any god, no sankrit found in harappan valley civlization.
Vedic culture did all the historical trics and frauds to overtake dravid culture.
RE:RAM HAS REMAINED RELEVANT FOR SEVERAL MILLENNIA
by Vishal Joshi on Oct 13, 2007 10:30 PM Permalink
Mr Ramasubbu,
Ok we agree with ur contention that RAMA never existed and its all myth. But even if it is only epic or story then whats wrong in following such epic or story when it leads u to good life?
See there are historical evidence of Prophet Mohammad and Jesus Christ (i respect both) what is happening? Muslims and christians are fighting with each other in the name of religion. Islam, christianity and jews have various similarity. Their respective holy books have mentioned of each other religion (of course negative points). Our epics, vedas, upnishad dont have mention of even word HINDU..they only focus on MANAV (human being).
I know u r frustrated because u r Dravidians and Aryans conquered you. Ok if u dont believe in Aryans civilization then make us believe in Dravidian civilization.
Lots of conversion is taking place in India. These conversion is among dravidians who accepts islam or christianity.
Now tell what u will do to make Aryans to move out of this country?
RE:RAM HAS REMAINED RELEVANT FOR SEVERAL MILLENNIA
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 02:25 PM Permalink
http://www.hinduonnet.com/fline/fl1720/17200040.htm
REad fake horseplay of vedic frauds. No aryan god is for real, they are all imaginary, as fake as vedic brahmins. you will never understand the frauds of bramins/iyers
RE:RE:RAM HAS REMAINED RELEVANT FOR SEVERAL MILLENNIA
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 09:12 PM Permalink
YOU are calling brahmin slavery and brahmin frauds as your religion? not mine dude any more, yes it was some years ago due to wrong notion.
Sankrit being very modern phenomenon and latest among all historical languages. So how Ram of 17 million years old era can be related with Sankrit or Vedic era. There is only one possibility either Ram exist or Sankrit/vedic culture existed. if Sandkrit/vedic existed then Ram was for sure a imaginary character which was never a reality. (Vedic blunder)
Becuase of these vedic frauds , who are trying to rewrite indian history , we are mocked in whole world. Our intelligence is refered with our past of 330 million Gods.
RE:hypocrite karuna
by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 12:44 PM Permalink
Ram is product of Vedic fraud history. Vedic militants are trying to rewrite indian history.Luckily they have been successful. But whole world is laughing at our history of 330 million fake gods.
RE:RE:hypocrite karuna
by aarti azad on Oct 11, 2007 12:51 PM Permalink
you are fraud and fake, ramasubbu. Hold yourseld, you are going overboard. you bloddy atheist.
RE:hypocrite karuna
by Raghav Puri on Oct 15, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
everything is real Ram Krishna vedas upnishads Ramayana everything .we have various holy books and we follow them but in islam they follow only quran in christianity they follow only bible just one book that too blindly allaha even doesnt has any identity atleast our gods have some identity we do not pray invisible things
RE:Christianity and Islam are evil cults
by on Oct 11, 2007 02:59 PM Permalink
If u r not aware of any religion, its better to keep mum, rather than uttering such nuisances, here the discussion was about Ram Sethu and its existence, has any Muslim Or Christian commented on this issue, then why the hell drag them and start and a new controversy. First of all pls be broadminded and then open the history books and read the truth behind Any religion. FYI Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world next to christanity and if it was a evil cult it would have perished long time ago, as has been the case of many cults that have appeared for few months or years and gone into wilderness forever. So therefore instead of giving ignorant statements, pls do read the actual facts of the religions and then say something that would be worthy of discussion.
@ Ramsubbu by ems nnn on Oct 06, 2007 01:59 PM | Hide replies
Quickly ;-) Yajur veda is of two type Krishna and sukla. Krishna Yajur veda Tythireeya samhita has 48 modules. One module is Sree Rudram another one is Chamakoottam (chamakam) both dedicated to Lord Shiva. 8th Anuvaka of Sree Rudram 10th line says, Namas"Shivayacha" Shivatarayacha.... This clearly proves the word Shiva is there in Vedas and is Vedic God. The Induz script is a script??? historians disagree? If yes is it pictographic or phoenetic??? historians disagree !!!!! Anyway it is NOT Brahmi dear as u say !!!! Induz script was totally lost (so say historians), then came Persians around 500 BCE who introduced Aramaic script. It was Brahmins who invented first Kharoshti and then Brahmi script based on this Aramaic one. Brahmi script invented by Aryan Brahmins is the mother of all scripts incl Devanagiri(modern Hindi) and Tamil script too. Buddha and Mahavira were Kshatriyas and Aryans and lived only 2500 years ago. They do NOT predate Vedas. Yes Jainism was there before Mahavira's times i agree. It would be nice if u donot comment on history and Vedas if u do not know about them
RE:@ Ramsubbu
by Balu Anand on Oct 08, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
Aren't you jumping to conclusions yourself? Please prove first that there was indeed an Aryan Invasion into India and that the time of Buddha was only 500 BCE. Buddha's real time as per Hindu, Buddhist and Chinese literature is atleast 1600 BCE
RE:@ Ramsubbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 10, 2007 12:46 PM Permalink
If Ram and Sita used Sanskrit as their mother tongue, the probably they existed only 2000 years ago.
RE:RE:@ Ramsubbu
by Ramasubbu on Oct 11, 2007 03:21 AM Permalink
Aryan invasion is proven. because before pre vedic era, there was no vedic or hindu god existed in harappan civilization. More over in south india vedic influece came only after pallava kings after 400A.D. THAT IS THE REASON MOST OF SOUTH INDIAN GODS ARE NOT MATCHING ANYWHERE IN HINDUISM. INFACT SOUTH INDIANS TEMPLES WERE FORCIBLY CONVERTED TO VEDIC GODS USING AVATARISATION. DO ANY VEDIC EPIC TALK ABOUT LORD VENKATESHWARA, VARDAPERMAL , MURUGAR, MEENAKSHI OR KAMAKSHI. ?
VEDIC BRAHMINS DID ALL THE ATTEMPTS TO CONTROL SOUTH INDIAN TEMPLE AND CONVERT THEM TO THEIR DESIRE. REFER TO SHANKARACHARYA'S BHAKTI MOVEMENT WHEN THOUSANDS OF DRAVIDS WERE MASS MURDERED IN 800 A.D.
CAN SOME ONE TELL ME HOW SOUTH INDIAN TEMPLES , DRAVID TEMPLES BECAME VEDIC? MOREOVER JAINISM EXISTS FULLY IN SOUTH INDIA TILL 400A.D ONLY AFTER THAT JAINISM STARTED DECLINING. SAME JAIN GOD AND SAME BRAHMI SCRIPT WERE PREVALENT IN HARAPPAN VALLEY.
HOWEVER VEDIC PAINTING HAS BEEN ATTEMPTED TIME TO TIME. MOREOVER SAIVISM WAS NOT PART OF HINDUISM TILL THEN, SIVA WAS NOT PART OF HINDUISM. EARLIER VEDA HAS NO MENTION OF SIVA. LATER SIVA WAS INCORPORATED BY BRAHMINS TO TAKE CONTROL OF SYSTM, THEN THEY TOOK OVER JAIN TEMPLES AND WANTED TO CONTROL THEIR RELIGION. THEY TOOK MANY LITERATURE AND CONVERTED TO SUIT THEIR REQUIREMENT. NO DOUBT MOST OF SOUTH INDIAN GODS ARE CONVERTED FROM JAIN GODS.
MADURAI, KANCHIPURAM , THIRUVANMALAI, TIRUPATI ARE ALL THE PLACES WHICH ARE PROVEN JAIN CENTRES OF DRAVID TIME.
