1. Definition of a Hindu The word Hindu has geographical significance and was used originally for those people who lived beyond the river Sindhu or the region watered by the river Indus. Some historians say that it was first used by the Persians who came to India through the north western passes of the Himalayas. The word Hindu is no where mentioned in Indian literature or scriptures before the advent of Muslims to India, according to the Encyclopedia of Religion and Ethics. According to Jawaharlal Nehru in the book Discovery of India on page 74-75, he writes that the earliest reference to the word Hindu can be traced to a tantrik of the 8th Century CE, where it means a people and not a follower of a particular religion. The use of the word Hindu in connection with a particular religion is of late occurrence. In short Hindu is a geographical definition used for the people living beyond the river Indus or those living in India
RE:What is Hindu
by Farooq on Sep 25, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
Hello to all the sensible Indians on rediff and request to others to stay away from this forum, because you are just spreading venom and hatred (as per you would have been thought in RSS/VHP schools). Mr. Junaid has brought up very good point here on "definition of hindu", read the associated articles before jumping to any hate reactions. If time permits read the following article which talk in volumes about the most condemned religion today but still it offers the peace. The article is what Muslim should & are made to believe about other gods esp Lord RAM. Ofcourse main stream media never will publish this promptly in order to reduce the divide & hatred. However this is what a normal, average muslim is thought in madrassa (not the ones with ISI trainers in PAK) and in normal muslim upbrining, which you dont make effort to see but only make ur decisions on few bad instances displayed by bad muslims and glorified by entire media.
In today's India, Hindu Gods like Lord Ram cannot do any miracles, only christian saints like mother terresa can do miracles. WHO IS RULING THE INDIANS TODAY???
HAS ANY POLITICAL PERSON ASKE3D PROOF OF HOW MOTHER TERRESSA HAS DONE MIRACLES?
RE:who is ruling india today?
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
she hersef has told in plain english there is no god dont u understand english
RE:who is ruling india today?
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 06:42 PM Permalink
now u accept rama as god u will go to heven or u will accompany karuna in hell
RE:who is ruling india today?
by Jackson on Sep 25, 2007 06:47 PM Permalink
FYI, Rama is not mentioned in the Vedas ... Only later texts talk about Avatars and GOD being born in earth .. Original Sanata Dharma does not believe in that ...
Its upto people to believe whatever they want .. but they shouldnt threaten or force people.
RE:who is ruling india today?
by VIJAYA BUDDHIRAJU on Sep 25, 2007 07:32 PM Permalink
Not true, surprising as it may sound, Rama is mentioned in the upanishads, which form as the last part of vedas.
RE:who is ruling india today?
by Virendra Singh on Sep 25, 2007 07:01 PM Permalink
This was like what Bush said, if you are not with us, you are with Osama, so I can bomb them.
The project has got environmental clearance. The project has got economic viability. The project has been approved by both the NDA and the UPA. at this point,when a group of people tell that it was built by rama and it should not be demolished,HOW SHOULD THE CHIEF MINISTER REACT? The logical step is to ask whether rama was real or imaginary. People on rediff can give alternate suggestions.
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 06:33 PM Permalink
ur leaving in perticular house since decades and decades they r abot make a road destroying ur house although they can re allign if its a dargah or mosque hw will u feel but not if its a hindu temple or ur house
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by Jackson on Sep 25, 2007 06:36 PM Permalink
with all due respects.
1) NDA passed the project
2) for 60 years, why was no attempt made to make this a heritage site? it would be safe then right?
3) Why didn't previous Governments Research more on this and protect it?
Out of the blue, the Sangh Parivar comes up with.. Stop the Project .. Ram Setu is here... It is too similar to the Ram Mandir fiasco .... looks too much like a political stunt..
Even now, they want to call in "volunteers" rather than historians/scholars. Makes you wonder.
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by hardtruths on Sep 25, 2007 07:17 PM Permalink
Mr. Jackson.. Now, if NDA has been in power, it would have respected people's sentiments and changed the course of canal.. Why the hell,the congress is not doing it? When crores of hindus believe in Ram sethu, why should the congress govt be adamant on this alighment?
as for 60 years, its only the stupid congress ruled.. and you have to ask the congress government this question..
Dont worry.. there will be another mega project at the site of velankanny and you will feel situation..
Dont act like smart.. sangh parivar is part of this nation.. but, your antonio maino is not.. sangh parivar has no place other than india, unlike your maino family, who could conveniently escape to their native country..
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 25, 2007 06:39 PM Permalink
mr suresh,i think that u r educated. i request u to go through this site in detail. we are having educated people who think that a project of this magnitude will be undertaken by the government without considering every angle. please go through this site before assuming conveniently.
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by weare on Sep 25, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
Hi dinesh, please eeducated people first think how ur website should be. i can not read anything on the site because left side menu overlaps the body content. then think how these guys aligned sethu project. yes ur educated though
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by suresh on Sep 25, 2007 06:48 PM Permalink
dinesh u dont know wht is T R balu and his evil activities if u want i can give u details of his activities for the sake of opposing iam not opposing by the way iam a south indinan
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 25, 2007 06:55 PM Permalink
im also a south indian. all the alignments have been evaluated and the present alignment was approved by vijay goel,the then minister in the NDA. when a minister signs a document,it is after a thorough evaluation.
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by kali das on Sep 25, 2007 08:10 PM Permalink
Mr. Dinesh, If you are SO SMART than I don't you find some other alternative. Why you are trying to destroy Ram sethu. As a human being you must respect other people's faith. And don't give us lecture on benefit and economy. We know better. If TN really want to improve economy than there are lot of other thing they should do first.
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by ANNELA REDDY on Sep 25, 2007 07:27 PM Permalink
Mr Dinesh,
How sure are you that Mr Minister is competent enough or has considered all the aspects before making a decision.
My friend tell me one decision made by any ministry which took all aspects into consideration. If thats the case then we are close to west in decision making processes,Which i am afraid is not the case.
RE:RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by hardtruths on Sep 25, 2007 07:18 PM Permalink
Dont give false info man.. The NDA government only gave a preliminary approval.. And again the same question.. NDA would have changed the alignment respecting peoples sentiments.. why dont that mukas and antonios do that?
RE:PEOPLE SHOULD GIVE THEIR SUGGESTIONS
by Parrupu Dasan on Sep 25, 2007 07:25 PM Permalink
FYI tr baalu is not a highly educated person like u think (max 3 or 4th class)he was selling peanutand pattani in chennai before he joined the indian nazi party - dmk - that is his background. infact he was also doing supari jobs for anybody paying money
born in a jews community? preaching is prohibited in that community until and unless ur qualified to do so thats why he is cursified nothing great abut jesus and bible all missinary propoganda there more millions born in hiduism like that
Please don't lose your focus. Don't allow your self to be distracted from this humiliation. It is time to clutch on to the throat of the real culprits behind this conspiracy of questioning our faith in our own country. It is sheer arrogance of the organized religious army of Vatican that they can stab us makes us bleed and get away.
It is a milestone attack in the long history of Vatican's design to conquest India's spiritual terrain. Here some simple truths to gauge the designs of Vatican parivar-in which 10Janpath is an active member:
Create antibodies: Corrupt the minds of children with twisted history and erode cultural values and ethos that bind us together in India. They have been largely successful in this as our own people argue against our value system, culture ad religion.
Occupy political space: After dividing us create vote banks-combining Christianity with Islam and other castes (which change in each region) to conquer power or start dictating the government.
What we are seeing today is rapid progression of Vatican parivar towards logical conclusion to achieving this dream of conquering spiritual terrain of India. By DICTATING THE GOVERNMEN TO ANNOUNCE RAM NEVER EXISTED they are preparing for a final assault.
Wake up from your deep slumber; dont fall in to the trap of slavery once again. Dont let these attackers go unpunished
Thought provoking; Has it been proven that God does not exist? So, why are you so eager to believe that God does not exist? Can anybody logically disapprove Tagodia's statement?
RE:Good one
by on Sep 25, 2007 06:23 PM Permalink
Thought provoking?? Get some brain man!! Have you read abt Russel's Tea pot?? Go google and read. Then you will understand what stupid statement this Togadia is making. To put it simply, nobody has proven that there is no invisible tea pot that is revolving right over your head. So will you say that there really is a Tea pot revolving over your head??? This reverse logic of "since something's absence isnt proven it shd be deemed to be present" is the height of stupidity! If you want to believe in God just believe. Its just a matter of faith. Dont set out to prove through "logics". You will fail miserably!
RE:RE:Good one
by SSK KSS on Sep 25, 2007 06:38 PM Permalink
Not only tea-pot; but thoughts can create and destruct many such things between Earth and Mars. Bertrand Russell%u2019s thoughts on logic consider only the dimensions that you and I can understand. When another dimension is introduced, his philosophy will be out-dated.
RE:Good one
by Jackson on Sep 25, 2007 06:14 PM Permalink
The concept of GOD was created by MAN. Our thoughts plainly. You can not prove or disprove GOD because all religions talk on ABSOLUTE terms and contradict each other.
Some people follow formal religions, some people believe nature. BIRTH & DEATH creates apprehennsion.. for MAN he needs salvation after death. No dead man speaks, so religion and religious texts are escape-mechanism.
RE:Good one
by kali das on Sep 25, 2007 08:14 PM Permalink
Mr. xyz, It is very simple common sense. It is question of individual's faith. And evrybody should respect it.
Faith is beyond logic and science. Grow up...or Shut up.
RE:Good one
by JGN on Sep 25, 2007 06:13 PM Permalink
You cannot prove non-existence. Only existence can be proved. So where is the proof for existence of any god?
Even if it is assumed that there is a God, he has created humanbeings as male and female only. And obviously there are no separate heavens and hells for the followers of different religions!
RE:Good one
by SSK KSS on Sep 25, 2007 06:27 PM Permalink
non-existence can be proved logically by the process of elimination. Try and eliminate God if you think God does not exist. Simple logic: There was no electricity 150 years back - people argued that electricity was myth. Proof follows the fact only to suppor it. what do you think?
