Christianity is taking over India under the reign of Sonia Gandhi : according to a 2001 census, there are about 2.34 million Christians in India ; not even 2,5% of the nation, a negligible amount. Yet there are today five Christian chief ministers in Nagaland, Mizoram, Meghalaya, Kerala and Andhra Pradesh. One should add that the majority of politicians in Sonia Gandhi%u2019s closed circle are either Christians or Muslims. She seems to have no confidence in Hindus. Ambika Soni, a Christian, is General Secretary of the Congress and a very powerful person, with close access to Sonia Gandhi. Oscar Fernandes is Union Programme Implementation Minister. Margaret Alwa is the eminence grise of Maharasthra. Karnataka is virtually controlled by AK Anthony, whose secretaries are all from the Southern Christian association. Valson Thampu, a Hindu hater, is Chairman NCERT curriculum Review Committee, John Dayal, another known Hindu baiter, has been named by Sonia Gandhi in the National Integration Council ; and Kancha Ilaya, who hates Hindus, is being allowed by the Indian Government to lobby with the UN and US Congress so that caste discrimination in India is taken-up by these bodies
RE:Christianity is Taking Over!!
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 10:41 AM Permalink
your message only shows your jealous of christians! Why not a christian become a CM? You mean to say that positions like CM,PM should be given based on number of christians,hindus,muslims?
RE:Christianity is Taking Over!!
by Dharma on Sep 26, 2007 11:14 AM Permalink
Christians can become CM even PM as long as hidus have tolerence . Don't abuse it.
RE:RE:Christianity is Taking Over!!
by Dharma on Sep 26, 2007 11:15 AM Permalink
Christians can become CM even PM as long as hidus have tolerence . Don't abuse it.
It doesnt matter what religion we believe in ,there's one thing we all have to remember you me and all the Indians were Hindus before . Our great grand parents were converted by these foriegn religions . You know what it shows us ? it shows us the depth of our broad mindedness to accept other faiths and treat them like its ours . Imagine if our culture is like those Foriegn people ? Would our India be multi cultural ,religional or linguistic ? I dont think so . From this we can understand that our culture (Hindu culture) is the most tolerant than any other culture in the world . And i guess this makes US and our culture special . so WHAT I AM SAYING IS " RESPECT OUR CULTURE AND OUR RELIGION (HINDU)NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION U ARE IN . BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT MAKES US "INDIANS" . but remember i never asked anyone to convert BUT PLEASE JUST GIVE YOUR UTMOST RESPECT ELSE , what you guys are doing is just spoiling INDIAS future , REMEMBER
" A COUNTRY OR CULTURE WITH NO PAST IS EITHER IN RUINS OR NEVER EXISTED "
I am rather appalled to see the messages posted here. Let us not argue on whether Ram existed or not. No human being can either prove or disprove that. Human being is the most intellegent and rational being on earth. I am sure that every one will agree that this world ( our earth planet ) is just a mere dot in the whole UNIVERSE. And scientists are yet to unveil most of the mysteries of the universe. What we know about the universe is a mere drop in the ocean. Sceintific truths are being revised when new truths come to light. In fact sientific truth is always relative and they are subject to change. That is why religion, beliefs will always remain in the minds of people. Both religion and science are not contraditory rather they are complementary to each other. Because both seek truth.Even the greatest scientists like Einestein acknowledged this. As the domain of science expands, the domain of religion shrinks. Religion seeks to answer those mysteries for which science failed to provide answer. Therefore, freinds, let us have loving kindness, respect, compassion on all creatures and develope all human beings of this world economically as well as morally. At the same time while doing so, we must preserve our environment/nature without which no being will survive. Thank you all.
RE:Freinds, let us respect each other.
by Ramanath Babu on Sep 26, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
There is nothing called scientific truth. Science is still evolving and continues to evolve as it is a continous process. As you said, science will say tomorrow just diametrically opposite what it is telling today as newer scientific evidence come to the fore which dispute what it said yesterday.
RE:Pl read this!!
by aceventura on Sep 26, 2007 10:36 AM Permalink
Tell me How much you got to convert yourself.People like you really sucks.For you Only Money is God.You have insulted the concept of GOD.Do not preach Nudity & Alcoholism in the name of Christianity..
RE:Pl read this!!
by Vishwamithran TKB on Sep 26, 2007 10:37 AM Permalink
Why do you want to publish your impotency on these boards where people are discussing something else? You would have changed your father also. Do you know that in Kerala the first batch of Christian converts include Brahminis (Namboodiris). It is better such block headed Bamboodiris had opted for that. There were mentally disabled and could not understand a simple trick used by a croocked Christina missionary (as they are).
After converting to Christianity, have you ever tried to find out how Stars from the sky impregnated Mary? You Clown!
RE:Pl read this!!
by D CH on Sep 26, 2007 10:38 AM Permalink
1) Is there word called bible in bilble?
2) Did jesus called Bibile has Bible in his life time? why did the original name of bible got chnaged?
3) Did jesus never called Jesus Christ in his life time? then why are you calling him as jesus christ?
4) what happens to the people who lived before Jesus came (go to heaven or hell)?
5) why do some very righteous people automatically go to hell just because they don't believe in Jesus on the other hand, noble man Gandhi will go to hell: since he is not chritian, and Bush will go to heaven since he is just christian: who killed millions of people in Vientnam, Iraq etc.
6) why does a loving and merciful God require a blood sacrifice (Jesus) to forgive people's sins; why are we guilty of Adam's original sin; why does the Word of God (Bible) disagree with scientific facts like earth is flat;
7)how can Jesus be God; how can One God be 3 different things;
8) If jesus is God/son of God since he doesnt have father then whynot Adam and Eve God/sonofgod since they dont have even father and mother?
9) why there are different version of bible? protestant -76 version, catholic-68 version and other bible all are mis match to each other, why?
10) i aasked christian church father, they said belive in faith, i cant believe in blind faith.
RE:Pl read this!!
by Perv Sharma on Sep 26, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
Funny - Fella still carries the Name Krishna - believes Chritianity is scientific - ie.e Virgin can give birth on her own ? Krishna calls himself a Scientific RESEARCHER - MOSES divided the RIVER into 2 PARTS by waving his Stick- its scientific
RE:Pl read this!!
by shivam agrawal on Sep 26, 2007 10:48 AM Permalink
I am associated with this organisation, and this organisation receives crores of rupees from abroad for conversion
RE:Pl read this!!
by Action Plan on Sep 26, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
Whatever you said and following that is up to you..No comment..But as a Hindu brahmin have you tried reading Bhagavadgita and tried to do a research on that.I am sure you did not do that..
Dr.Rajendra Prasad( first President ) in his speech he gave in trivandrum, has spoke about god. According to him god is the redeemer of mankind from sin. It is the power which lead man from dark to light." Thamasoma Jyothir Gamaya ".. And without shedding blood it is not possible to redeem Mankind from Sin ( in hinduism they have " Bali " which is shedding blood of animal for sin of a person). So if you check the History ,there is no God who has died for Mankind other than JESUS CHRIST. At the end of his speech, he told it is JESUS CHRIST who is the god because only JESUS died for mankind and through JESUS one enter into the light.
RE:Jesus is GOD
by Marco Polo on Sep 26, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
He didn't die for mankind, if you keep your brainwashed brain open for even a second.He was a revolutionary,a social reformer who questioned the atrocities of the rulers,the Romans.He was killed by the Romans for proclaiming he was the son of God.If you care to read history,you will see that there were many men in those times who claimed to be holymen.While as a Hindu I have no problem with the good man named Jesus,though I don't beleive Bible atall.It was madeup for spreading the christian faith with juicy stories like virgin birth,resurrection etc.And I do believe when Simcha says he found the tomb of Jesus along with his wife's and son's.Why not? Does that make Jesus any less Great? He was a great teacher.
RE:Jesus is GOD
by maha moderator on Sep 26, 2007 10:34 AM Permalink
you malbari jesus is a meesenger of the god nothing else he is not a god or god's son ok
RE:Jesus is GOD
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 10:31 AM Permalink
Those who really learnt all the religious texts of hinduism never abuse Jesus Christ.
RE:Jesus is GOD
by Marco Polo on Sep 26, 2007 10:56 AM Permalink
He didn't die for mankind, if you keep your brainwashed brain open for even a second.He was a revolutionary,a social reformer who questioned the atrocities of the rulers,the Romans.He was killed by the Romans for proclaiming he was the son of God.If you care to read history,you will see that there were many men in those times who claimed to be holymen.While as a Hindu I have no problem with the good man named Jesus,though I don't beleive Bible atall.It was madeup for spreading the christian faith with juicy stories like virgin birth,resurrection etc.And I do believe when Simcha says he found the tomb of Jesus along with his wife's and son's.Why not? Does that make Jesus any less Great? He was a great teacher.
RE:Jesus is GOD
by D CH on Sep 26, 2007 10:32 AM Permalink
1) Is there word called bible in bilble? 2) Did jesus called Bibile has Bible in his life time? why did the original name of bible got chnaged? 3) Did jesus never called Jesus Christ in his life time? then why are you calling him as jesus christ? 4) what happens to the people who lived before Jesus came (go to heaven or hell)? 5) why do some very righteous people automatically go to hell just because they don't believe in Jesus on the other hand, noble man Gandhi will go to hell: since he is not chritian, and Bush will go to heaven since he is just christian: who killed millions of people in Vientnam, Iraq etc. 6) why does a loving and merciful God require a blood sacrifice (Jesus) to forgive people's sins; why are we guilty of Adam's original sin; why does the Word of God (Bible) disagree with scientific facts like earth is flat; 7)how can Jesus be God; how can One God be 3 different things; 8) If jesus is God/son of God since he doesnt have father then whynot Adam and Eve God/sonofgod since they dont have even father and mother? 9) why there are different version of bible? protestant -76 version, catholic-68 version and other bible all are mis match to each other, why? 10) i aasked christian church father, they said belive in faith, i cant believe in blind faith.
RE:Jesus is GOD
by aggi soares on Sep 26, 2007 10:52 AM Permalink
read vedas you will come to know .. if you dont know vedas ask with hindu priest to expalin you all ten vedas . Till today not a single hindu priest has explained about vedas cause they know if vedas comes and start explaining all hindu will be shocked.
Our Political Parties never focus on real issues like Poverty,Unemployment,development,etc.But they keep on harping on Non-Issues such as Ram Sethu Bridge.I mean what a common man will benefit from such an issue.All Political Parties are Nonsense & Only ordinary People Suffers..Why No ones talks about ROTI,KAPDA & MAKAAN.Corruption is Rampant in our Society & our political parties are mixing religion with Politics & Politicising the whole issue to DIVERT the people from the real issues such as Poverty & Unemployments.Actually All parties are taking us for a ride & we all silly people are falling in to their trap.
Unless and until Indians remain vigilant and wary they may again be consigned to the dustbin of history to suffer eternal darkness and human bondage.
RE:Is this the Real Issue?
by Aone on Sep 26, 2007 10:44 AM Permalink
Ismail Bhai..! Assalam.......(rb)
nobody will hear you. Ramayan mahabharat padhke bhi log nahi sudhare, to apka ye bhashan sunke kaun sa sudharne wale hai..! ladne do inhe..jab tak ye aapas me ladenge nahi inhe khana nahi hajam hoga..so please keep watch.
RE:Is this the Real Issue?
by rkjack on Sep 26, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
First you look at your own "gire baan" and then expect from others. Anyone can do the ideal speech like you have written. Look at the speech of Pak capt Malik, why there is always a fatwa called from your community, why there was ramsack when cartoon was prepared on Moh. Paphet, did that give you anything???? Don't teach others first teach yourself and your community and so the nation as a civilized community then every one will follow you. In such situation you don't need to make speech, which you are trying to teach here.
RE:CricketSelector.com is back for the Australia-India Tour
by ashutosh bahuguna on Sep 26, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
after losing the WC 07 it was quite essential for the bookies,endorsement agencies and the cricket adminisatrators that india should win
one more faliure and cricket would have been washed out from India and so the money from international cricket
Playing only one T20 match prior to WC and winning world cup
there is definetly more to it what we see there are chances that T20 was fixed
Ye... he was in India and learning Vedas here... Then he went to Mallech ... and taught some new stories by changing name of "Manu and Shraddha" to "Adam and Eve"... Hey.. have anybody know Manu and Shradhha.. this is age back story from Adam and Eve and the copied everything from us... so don't worry.. let xtians think whatever they think we know everything started from here.. and one day when they will do enoguh research they will automatically know that... though its different that they accept it or not..
RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Bahl Kumar on Sep 26, 2007 10:28 AM Permalink
let God decide ur sestiny , repent and believe , or else you will have to face the great fall and etenal death
RE:RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 10:24 AM Permalink
"we know everything". Only this false pride and arrogance prevented Indians from learning new technologies from abroad resulted in easy intrusion of foreign forces. When Alexander fought in horses our guys used big elephants that moved slowly in the battle field. When babur foght with artillery our guys used outdated swords and arrows. They did not know about artillery at all. When british fought using modern weapons our guys used outdated weapons. Still people like you do not realize the mistakes.
RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by egrl on Sep 26, 2007 11:04 AM Permalink
Idiot.... do u know the true technological development & warfare techniques of our guys? learn true history apart from textbook & talk. Most of the historians accept that Alexander has not won Porus on war field but won with other tactics. even alexander's spouse was amazed on the bravery & warfare techniques of Porus. above all the mighty alexander doesn't even thought about moving furthur into India. he had a very tough time of his life with porus, whos power is some 200 times less than that of the mightiest MAGADHA empire. quote from wikipaedia:
In 326 BC, the army of Alexander the Great approached the boundaries of the Magadhan Empire. The army, exhausted and frightened by the prospect of facing another giant Indian army at the Ganges River, mutinied at the Hyphasis (modern Beas) and refused to march further East. Alexander, after the meeting with his officer, Coenus, was convinced that it was better to return, and turned south, conquering his way down the Indus to the Ocean.
then to ur view about babur is also wrong damit. I dnt want to type much of the sterile nature of mogul & islamic rulers. they were merely arrogant & followed all illegal ways to conquer land apart from bravery. just a quote to the way babur had met with Rana Sanga is given here again from wiki....
The two armies fought each other forty miles west of Agra at Khanwa. In a possibly apocryphal tale referred to in Tod's Annals and Antiquities of Rajasthan, Babur is supposed to have sent about 1,500 ch
RE:RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 10:26 AM Permalink
Is karna's birth investigated? Or you know only about christianity and islam? First you learn your religion then talk about others. Many non-hindus know more than what you know about hinduism.
RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Vishwamithran TKB on Sep 26, 2007 10:40 AM Permalink
If you have the ability to think, there is need to investigate the birth of Karna. It is there in the Mahabharata. You need a brain in your head not in the foot.
RE:RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Marco Polo on Sep 26, 2007 10:29 AM Permalink
Are Hindus using Karna's birth to win over non- believers?It is Jesus' birth by a 'virgin' that is being extensively used by the church. I'm still going for Balagokulam classes.When i graduate,I'll let u know.
RE:Can anybody tell where was the Jesus between age of 3 and 33 and how he born from a Virgin Lady...
by Mukul Kabra on Sep 26, 2007 10:30 AM Permalink
Cape, ... it hurts na... sameway... don't make mockery of my faith... thats what I wanted to say..
