RE:Jesus will be back
by Anup sharma on Sep 26, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
buddy, Cape Common, i red bible, there is no answer, it says he will be back thats it. if u know tell me.
RE:RE:Jesus will be back
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 12:28 PM Permalink
Your message itself says that you did not read bible. Your questions are simple childlike. Any way get the answers: 1. The exact time of his arrival is not mentioned in the bible. But there are some signs that signal his arrival: earth quakes, drought, wars,etc. 2. Virginity generally applies to women. It is in no way related to God. 3. His second coming is to give justice. All the sinners will be punished. 4. His return is justified in bible. He knew that he was going to be hanged. 5. Al though he is son of God. He lives like a human. SO he has all the feelings of humans. 6. He lives for ever. 7. Jesus supports only those who really follow his teachings. Read new testament of the bible you will get all the proofs.
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by Danial Fakih on Sep 26, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
Cape, Didn't Jesus said in Bible ..My Lord & thy Lord is one God..Than how he himself become God? Tell me how u guys manage to make the God in three.Isn't it contradicting..Its God the Almighty who helps neither Jesus nor Mohd.
RE:Jesus will be back
by VENURAJA Bowenpalle on Sep 26, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
One should be happy that Lord Krishna was not born in your most favoured country in the west or in the desert countries. They could have misinterpreted and killed each other. It is because these people can not understand the puranas which means the symbolic mythologies. Everything in the purana is a symbolic story with a rich meaning. The animal type ,crude civilzations can not understand higly allegoric wrtings. For example some thing new can not be created unless is old is destroyed. In your body millions of body cells are dying which are repalced by new cells in higer number leading to growth. The destroyer is Lord Shiva and the creator is Lord Vishnu, symbolically represented and the union of two is Ayyappa which means the life force. Likewise the Brahma means Knowledge who shall be married to Goddess of Learning. So, Brahma marries Saraswathi. Goddess Saraswathi holds Veena because Veena produces the basic seven sounds from which all sounds have come and sound is the basis for energy in the world in fact from energy (0m) the world emerged. Sita was an incarnation of Goddess Laxmi and Ravana was personification of greed. He knew that Sita sitting in Lanka simply means plenty of rains and food and wealth. He was enamoured of wealth and emanicipation (moksha) was impossible for him unless he destroys himself in the hands of God himself. You better stay away from Hindu philosophy because it is beyond your comprehension,understanding or even imagination.
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by Danial Fakih on Sep 26, 2007 12:53 PM Permalink
Aray Bhai VENURAJA , After telling so much of disgusting stories which has no relevence today,what u intend to give to a normal human being literally every word has different meaning..If these Gods were not God as u said "Brahma means Knowledge ...Then why just make it simple ..Only one superpower, shape we don't know ..How is Arya Samaj? Boss I don't believe in a religion which I can't understand myself..I don't need Pandays & Mulla to make me understand..
RE:Jesus will be back
by Masood Khan on Sep 26, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
My friend Mr. Anup Sharma... your doubts are very right and need to be probed... I tried to shed some light on your doubts, but if you keep in touch with me, i hope that we can have a good discussion son the subject.
- Jesus (may peace be upon him) was one of the greatest human beings on earth. He was a messenger of God who gave message of peace. - He never in his sermons asked people to worship him, he never claimed sonship to God. - - They were all fabrications by the evil people of that time. - People who came before Jesus, if they believed in One God, they will certainly go to Heaven. - It is very wrong claims spread by people that Jesus (may peace be upon him) took upon him all the sins of mankind, this is logically incorrect also because according to this theory all the people i.e. evil & good people will go to heaven irrespective or their deeds. This will be great injustice. - Jesus (may peace be upon him) cannot be god or 3 Gods at a time AND son of god becuase he is born without a father... all very baseless. - There are different versions of Bible because as time passed by peopple with different thinking and aspirations added or deleted texts regularly to suits their needs. Thus, the very essence that Bible is purely a word of God vanished. and has no relevance today.
RE:Jesus will be back
by Cape Comorin on Sep 26, 2007 12:21 PM Permalink
Ok. You belive that Jesus is prophet. No problem. But do not say that christian beliefs are baseless. Read www.christiananswers.net for more info.
RE:Jesus will be back
by meraj on Sep 26, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
Dear Anup,
Christain beleive that Prophet jesus(peace be upon him)was crucified, in fact he was not crucified but raised alive in the sky by Allah, as per Quran. Since every human being is destined to die after his birth, he is the only person who didn't attain his eath in this world. Hence would be back in this world & will join Chrisdtian & muslim together & make it one i.e the follower of Islam. QURAN confirms, Prophet Jesus(peace be upon him) would return before the doomsday.
On his return whom he will find as his follower, Christians?
The Bible says very clearly that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) used to fast. Do Christians fast? Muslims fast; it is obligatory one month every year.
The Bible says that Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) prayed by touching his forehead to the ground. Do Christians pray in this manner? Muslims do. It is characteristic of their prayer and no one on earth is probably ignorant of that fact.
According to Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him), he told his disciples to greet one another with the expression, "Peace be with you." Do the Christians do that? Muslims do, universally, whether they speak Arabic of not. The greeting for one to another is Assalamu' alaikum (peace be with you).
The brother of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Book of James, stated that no man should suggest what he is about to do of highlight his plans for the next few days in anyway without adding the phrase "if God wills." Do not say "I will
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by meraj on Sep 26, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
Continued
The brother of Prophet Jesus (peace be upon him) in the Book of James, stated that no man should suggest what he is about to do of highlight his plans for the next few days in anyway without adding the phrase "if God wills." Do not say "I will go here and there do this and that" without adding the phrase "if God wills." Do Christians do that? Muslims do, whether they speak Arabic or not. If they so much as suggest they are going downtown to pick up some groceries, they will add Insha-Allah, which in Arabic means, "If God wills."
We look ahead to welcome Prophet Jesus(peace be upon him)
May Allah guide us always closer to the truth, The Quran.
Regards,
Md. Meraj Alam INDIA
Laa ilaaha ill-Allah, Mohammadan Rasool-ullah There are no gods, but ALLAH(The Creator)and Muhammad is the Messenger of ALLAH
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by Anup sharma on Sep 26, 2007 12:29 PM Permalink
Meeraj, good answer, can you give the reply from quran about jesus return and Necessary ?
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by meraj on Sep 26, 2007 12:35 PM Permalink
All what i said about the non-crucifuication of Prophet Jesus(peace be upon him) is from Quran only my dear, other wise how i know this the matter of thousands year back. for further details like his signs of coming, etc. please log on to the belowmentioned link
RE:Jesus will be back
by Religious Scholar on Sep 26, 2007 12:18 PM Permalink
Anup....gimme ur email ID and I will reply... else email me at religiousscholar@rediffmail.com and I will reply all your question with sufficient proof from the Bible...
RE:Jesus will be back
by sksk on Sep 26, 2007 12:17 PM Permalink
According to islam Jesus will come back as messenger of god ,not as a god himself.He will praise the muslims for retaining the fact.
The Lord surveyed the Ram Setu and said "Hanuman, how diligently and strenuously you and your vanara sena had built this bridge several centuries back. It is remarkable that it has withstood the ravages of the climatic and geographical changes over centuries. It is indeed an amazing feat especially considering the fact that a bridge at Hyderabad built by Gammon using latest technology collapsed the other day even before they could stick the posters on its pillars."
Hanuman with all humility spoke "Jai Sri Ram, it is all because of your grace. We just scribbled your name on the bricks and threw them in the
sea and they held. No steel from TISCO or cement from Ambuja or ACC was ever used. But Lord, why rake up the old issue now."
Ram spoke "Well, Hanuman some people down there want to demolish the bridge and construct a canal. The contract involves lot of money and lot of money will be made. They will make money on demolition and make more money on construction. "
Hanuman humbly bowed down and said "Why not we go down and present our case"
Ram said "Times have changed since we were down there. They will ask us to submit age proof and we don't have either a birth certificate or school leaving certificate. We traveled mainly on foot and some times in bullock carts and so we don't have a driving license either. As far as the address proof is concerned the fact that I was born at Ayodhya is itself under litigation for over half a century, If I go in a t
its not a question of UPA vs. BJP/VHP but its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... u people are very prompt to give ur opinion when its VHP/BJP.. but why dont u oppose communal politics in the name of secularism... doing reservation on the basis of religion(reservation for muslims in AP), encouragement of madarsa education instead of schools following NCERT prescribed syllabus, spending crores of our tax payers money on the basis of religion (take sachchar committee), ridiculing hindu god by UPA/congress/UPA(questioning the existence of RAM), not implementing any anti anti terror law and allow mostly hindus to die in bombing by muslim fanatics n pakis, not hanging desdrohi afzal guru, shabby treatment of hindu population evicted forcibly by muslim terrorists in kashmir, trying to prove godhra burning of hindu pilgrims alive as an accident are some examples of communal secularism of UPA/Congress... we wanted real secularism and policies without any descrimination on the basis of caste, creed, religion or any other mean thing.... but we hindus are totally disillusioned with secularism today... BJP/VHP are political parties using religion for vote bank politics and are not sole representative of hindus.. but one thing is sure that UPA/Congress are worst COMMUNAL parties india.. thats why they unabashedly pampering muslims for vote bank politics and now they are ridiculing RAM.. we hindus will teach them a lesson in next election by all means...
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
mr dayal,as long as u mix and confuse politics and religion,neither will hinduism benefit nor will our country prosper. develop the common sense to separate religion and politics.
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by Jay Dee on Sep 26, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
Nice said dinesh, I agree with you. Dayal seems to confuse readers more like saying goes "If you cannot convince, confuse!"
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by mukesh dayal on Sep 26, 2007 12:16 PM Permalink
mr dinesh, people like u are living in fools paradise and miles away from stark political reality today... we wanted real secularism and policies without any descrimination on the basis of caste, creed, religion or any other mean thing.... but we hindus are totally disillusioned with secularism today... BJP/VHP are political parties using religion for vote bank politics and are not sole representative of hindus.. but one thing is sure that UPA/Congress are worst COMMUNAL parties india.. thats why they unabashedly pampering muslims for vote bank politics and now they are ridiculing RAM.. we hindus will teach them a lesson in next election by all means...
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 12:23 PM Permalink
mr dayal,if the muslims have been pampered,they must be dominating the hindus economically. if they are dominating the hindus in other respects,please reveal them.
RE:RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by Jay Dee on Sep 26, 2007 12:24 PM Permalink
This is not a political platform Dayal, you can find one under the umbrella of your serpentine parties like BJP/VHP if you try out...
RE:Hindu religion EXPOSED
by Hemanshu on Sep 26, 2007 12:11 PM Permalink
"The Brahmins claim that Lord Rama is incarnated (came in human form) to study and understand the difficulties of mankind."
RE:PRISLAM
by maha moderator on Sep 26, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
it seems to be you are ba*sta*rd of catholic or protestant and must probably a covert hindu go and eat shit to purify your sins
