Instead of shouting over Ram (or whoever) exists or not people and govt should be working for the development of overall nation. Ram existed or not doesn't bring food to millions of poverty-striken people. Religion is making all people blind, causing wars between people. Who has ever gained from this? Be practical and come out from medieval superstition.
RE:All Bogus!
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
lolssss...............dear if u come out of religion.........pliticians will make u fight on some other topic.....language / region / colour of skin.........the list is endless.......the point is that we should vote to constructive politicians.........and not those who play politics of hate......
Argue on religion is an endless topic. Ages passes away.How many books are there on this topic we can not imagine. Belife does not require proof. It's only belief. there r two types of people in our society. one part believe on the issue and the other part don't. So it is endless. it will be carried on till the end. On Ram Setu, Lord Ram built to save his wife and to rescue human being for the devils. HE built it for a beneficial work. And now if Ram Setu is going to be rebuilt for the benefit of our country or whatever u think, then it should be done. Lord Ram is UNIVERSAL truth as death & life. It does not matter whether we agree or disagree.
RE:scientist reaction on religion
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
that's right..........he just did not want to give it a name...........but that is what all religions say...........weather u call the divine power bhagwan / allah or god........
people who want proof for lord ram or any other proof. see here people who believe in ram they believ in ram beacuse they feel that ram is god,and not because ram were exist or not. so it's question of belief and not of existence. second this is not secience which req. proof. in this world there are so many things which we go by our belief and not by logic or proof.Here my message to Mr. karunanidhi and people who are supporting mr.karunanidhi that don't say word which hurts people sentiments instead do good work in favor common man as u are king of tamilnadu u have power so use that power in upliftment of common man of tamilnadu.
RE:WASTAGE OF ENERGY
by antiCongress antiBJP on Sep 26, 2007 02:16 PM Permalink
Mr. Advani has said that Modi would win like the Indian team. I have a request to Mr. Advani and his colleagues, who praise Gujarat Carnage, must know World Cup is a victory of the unity of Hindu-Muslim players.
its not a question of UPA vs. BJP/VHP but its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK...
u people are very prompt to give ur opinion when its VHP/BJP..
but why dont u oppose communal politics in the name of secularism...
doing reservation on the basis of religion(reservation for muslims in AP), encouragement of madarsa education instead of schools following NCERT prescribed syllabus, spending crores of our tax payers money on the basis of religion (take sachchar committee), ridiculing hindu god by UPA/congress/UPA(questioning the existence of RAM), not implementing any anti anti terror law and allow mostly hindus to die in bombing by muslim fanatics n pakis, not hanging desdrohi afzal guru, shabby treatment of hindu population evicted forcibly by muslim terrorists in kashmir, trying to prove godhra burning of hindu pilgrims alive as an accident are some examples of communal secularism of UPA/Congress...
we wanted real secularism and policies without any descrimination on the basis of caste, creed, religion or any other mean thing.... but we hindus are totally disillusioned with secularism today...
BJP/VHP are political parties using religion for vote bank politics and are not sole representative of hindus.. but one thing is sure that UPA/Congress are worst COMMUNAL parties india.. thats why they unabashedly pampering muslims for vote bank politics and now they are ridiculing RAM..
we hindus will teach them a lesson in next election by all means...
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
The atrocious casteist brahminism that had crept into hinduism through centuries of manipulations by one class that used brahminical arguments to suffocate and subjugate a majority of the people was defeated and hinduism was saved.
the revolutionary movement of periyar was kept alive by the unparaleled leadership of karunanidhi.
were it not for that movement,vast numbers of so called lower castes would still not have been allowed into temples and would have joined other religions in bigger numbers.
periyar,annadurai and karunanidhi are the saviours of hinduism.
in politics and development,when someone drags in a matter of faith,there can not be any argument.
the people who dragged in rama s name left the chief minister with no option but to ask the question whether rama was real or imaginary.
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by ManLion on Sep 26, 2007 01:35 PM Permalink
Hi Dinesh,
Could you kindly specify which that 'one class' was that used Brahmanical arguments? How knowledgable are you about this? Or are you just basing it on wat periyar and his ilk brainwashed you?
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 01:49 PM Permalink
the dominant landed class.
RE:its hindus vs. UPA/congress/DMK... teach them a lesson... dont let others like ismail sayyed divert the real issue... people like ismail are hypocrites n anti hindu...
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 26, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
Brother,bury the past & look forward.Whatever i m expressing is my own personal views.I m not talking here on the behalf of any group or communities.These are my personal views & opinions.Whatever possible in my own ways i m putting forward my ideas.
There is no right wing Muslim party that get any support from Muslims in contrast to my hindu brethen are proud to vote for right wing hindusim. As a civlised person you must know that right wing Hinduism is no different from right wing Islam or any right wing philosophy.
Muslims are voting for secular parties whereas a significant section of Hindus are voting for communal parties, so whose wrong?
As educated people we are supposed to accept our folly and applogise. I agree with you that all political parties are nonsense and selfish and that all ordinary people suffer.
Our Political Parties never focus on real issues like Poverty,Unemployment,development,etc.But they keep on harping on Non-Issues such as Ram Sethu Bridge.I mean what a common man will benefit from such an issue.All Political Parties are Nonsense & Only ordinary People Suffers..Why No ones talks about ROTI,KAPDA & MAKAAN.Corruption is Rampant in our Society & our political parties are mixing religion with Politics & Politicising the whole issue to DIVERT the people from the real issues such as Poverty & Unemployments.Actually All parties are taking us for a ride & we all silly people are falling in to their trap.
Unless and until Indians remain vigilant and wary they may again be consigned to the dustbin of history to suffer eternal darkness and human bondage.
RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by Dhanam on Sep 26, 2007 01:32 PM Permalink
This is very good point.. Even 1940 status still exist in North India. Ask the answer from Praveen Togadia . He may not able to answer. Because like Praveen Togadia people Hidden agenda is different.
RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by yogi goli on Sep 26, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
E man are u from tamilnadu and are u a polytician that's why u like karunanidhi. Why karunanidhi allowed people to enter into temple u know. Becuase internally he belive in GOD becuase in temple GOD is there. Now at least understand. Temple is for Ram, Ganesh, Shankar, Shivaji. Poor people also belive in GOD. The mad man u should understand. Also if u like karunanidhi then go and sit beside him then u will come to know that he don;t know anything.
RE:RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
mr yogi,im sure people like u will get upset when u hear about conversions.
the lower castes were brought into the fold of hinduism by the movement of periyar,annadurai and karunanidhi.
without their movement,30 % of the population would have quit hinduism.
the dominant clsses had manipulated hinduism to preserve their hold.
the suffocated classes would have converted in vast numbers.
the leadership of periyar and karunanidhi saved hinduism.
it is another matter that today the same classes who manipulated hinduism in the past are today trying their best to prevent the lower castesfrom regaining their pride and glory.
RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by mukesh dayal on Sep 26, 2007 01:34 PM Permalink
u r right dinesh...
caste is a curse on hinduism and should be removed in a fair manner... all hindus have equal rights and castes are a product of selfish people misusing hinduism...
so caste should be removed at all cost n there is no disagreement on this...
but u cant indulge in ridiculing hinduism, hurting n abusing brahmins n doing reservation on the basis of caste etc... otherwise wts the difference between brahmins of 1940 n us.. we need to eradicate these deseases of hinduism n make them irrelevant in day to day life.. if we indulge in reprisal descrimination of upper caste then it is not right... todays uppercaste generation is not responsible for misdeeds of its old generations n so cant punish n abuse present generations...
so lets make caste n such mean issues irrelevant in our daily life n dont frame policies on its basis.. n dont ridicule our ancient religion n cocentrate on its reforms to make it more stronger...
RE:RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by dinesh kumar on Sep 26, 2007 01:46 PM Permalink
mr dayal,caste will be eradicated when the oppressed classes have been uplifted.
reservations have been mandated by the constitution and democratically elected governments are implementing it.
80 % of india lives in the villages and the hold of caste is strong in the villages.
the shankaracharya of puri was ready to debate with karunanidhi.
he should display the same energy and go to places where caste conflicts have occurred.
he should proclaim the message that there is no superiority or inferiority on the basis of birth.
has any shankaracharya made this assertion in a manner that will reach out to the society.
daya,please read this article to get a picture about discriminations existing today.
RE:RE:RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by Dhanam on Sep 26, 2007 01:57 PM Permalink
Do you know statistic more that 90% of IITian going to abroad? What is the use of spending the money by Indian Government. Moreover Fanatic people are not having any concern on INDIA. They are interest only for their community. The implementation is coming through in the name of RAM.
RE:TO ALL IGNORANT NORTH INDIAN FRIENDS
by Dhanam on Sep 26, 2007 01:50 PM Permalink
Do you know Tamil nadu people well known about this people hidden agenda.
Now also we can realize that the North India people still in backward in illiteracy compare to South India. Reason is like this Fanatic people dominated in North India. But GOD(RAM) grace tamil nadu got the Periya like leader to Promote our people in terms of self respect.
Moreover we(India) really needs agitation to remove this people instead of RAM-Sethu Movement. Because of RAM-Sethu Movement what%u3000benefit for common people.
