RE:islam
by Imran on Sep 26, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Al religions can be made fun of bcoz they are all utter nonsense. We can make a comedy movie on the various and unique Hindu Gods and on islams Allah we can make a action movie. "Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." - Thomas Jefferson
RE:islam
by SOG on Sep 26, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
RAM saved SITA n slayed RAVANA. If u don't want our religion then y the hell ur here go to Porkista / bhikardesh, those places r specially for the ppl. like u.
RE:RE:islam
by younus siddique on Sep 26, 2007 04:59 PM Permalink
if you dont want our religion then you can go to NEPAL or ANDAMAN NIKOBAR ..only hindu nations on earth ....idiot who said that if you want HINDU religion then stay in INDIA ...INDIA HINDU KE BAAP KA NAHIN HAI ..
RE:RE:islam
by Imran on Sep 26, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
Al religions can be made fun of bcoz they are all utter nonsense. We can make a comedy movie on the various and unique Hindu Gods and on islams Allah we can make a action movie. "Religions are all alike - founded upon fables and mythologies." - Thomas Jefferson
Jesus did create a new religion or renovated the old belief. The old beliefs could have been million of years old like present Hinduism and was more suited to that time civilization eg. Kings rule. It is unfortunate Hinduism is not renovated to the social changes. Couple of religions like Buddhism, Jainism etc are founded but again the main stream in India stuck to Hinduism.
Ram issue has opened a debate what ever Hinduism belief has any scientific evidence and is there a need to update to the modern social belief. Anyone can say no science can question religion but the fact is everything followed in a region is right.
Couple of things I feel need a change is
1. Caste system.
2. More money more blessing thought.
3. No proper school to teach the religion which will separate the myth and facts.
4. Need tp promote inter caste marriage to abolish caste system.
5. Some simple basic principle to be laid down eg. Either all Hindus be veg or non veg.
6. Many of the practice are jut followed with out knowing the reason and this need to be researched and corrected. Eg can be why not a widow wears bindi.
7. Promote conversion to Hinduism this can happen only if caste system goes off. Any human have to right to be a Hindu and this need to addressed by the religious leaders.
8. Promote religious organization like Arya Samaj not political origination like VHP,RSS or BJP.
9. Hinduism lack spiritual leader, media concentrate only the street speakers and so called Hindu spok
RE:Hinduism need some change to grow
by Sreeram Ramaswamy on Sep 26, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
It would be better if you can just stick to your religion. Advices come for free. All we Hindus are asking is "please shut up". We believe in our faith, epics, and mythological characters and we rever them. The minimum we Hindus are asking jokers from the so-called "secular" camp (DMK, Congress, left etc) are to keep quiet and not heap insults on us by your uncalled for comments, which are not even worth the dustbin.
RE:Hinduism need some change to grow
by Asim Mehtani on Sep 26, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
First all you should have some sense of analysation. The fact is that there is no English translation of Dharam. The English word is Religion. But Religion and Dharam are two different words with different meanings. In Hindi, we call Religion as 'Sampradya', like Hindu 'Sampradya', Muslim 'Sampradya', Christian 'Sampradya'etc., whereas in English, we will say Hindu Religion, Muslim Religion or Christian Religion. Dharam is world associated with Mankind. For example, 'Humanity is mankind', no one will say 'Humanity is Religion', but the same if you have to convey in Hindi, then the correct phrase in Hindi will be 'Manavta Hi Dharam Hai'. No one will say ' Manavata Hi 'Sampradya' Hai'. Therefore, Dharam is uniform word, associated to all Human Beings irrespective of any Professions, Religions. Our Religious books only concentrate on Dharam. Dharam is only one ie. Sanatam Dharam. Arya Samaj is not a Religion, rather it is a social institution. Again Casteism is also a social factor. If there is any drawback in our Dharam, then the cure of that drawback also lies in our Dharam, and we no need to go anywhere.
RE:Hinduism need some change to grow
by Sreeram Ramaswamy on Sep 26, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
It would be better if you can just stick to your religion. Advices come for free. All we Hindus are asking is "please shut up". We believe in our faith, epics, and mythological characters and we rever them. The minimum we Hindus are asking jokers from the so-called "secular" camp (DMK, Congress, left etc) are to keep quiet and not heap insults on us by your uncalled for comments, which are not even worth the dustbin.
RE:Hinduism need some change to grow
by Sreeram Ramaswamy on Sep 26, 2007 04:35 PM Permalink
It would be better if you can just stick to your religion. Advices come for free. All we Hindus are asking is "please shut up". We believe in our faith, epics, and mythological characters and we rever them. The minimum we Hindus are asking jokers from the so-called "secular" camp (DMK, Congress, left etc) are to keep quiet and not heap insults on us by your uncalled for comments, which are not even worth the dustbin.
RE:Give way to progress..
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
there r 7 alternate routes for having this channel............at places where ram sethu is hollow..........
RE:Give way to progress..
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
lolssss.............yes dear.......when sons of gods can get crucified in front of everyone.......anything can happen........
the problem is that DMK is not ready to accept the route.......if they accpet the alternate route problem will be solved.........that is all VHP and other organisations r asking.......
RE:Give way to progress..
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
BTW even if u fully destoy the sethu.....still u can't have big ships going throguh this route...........they will still have to encircle Sri Lanka..........only small boats and steamers cna pass through.......
RE:Give way to progress..
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:34 PM Permalink
lolssssssss........johnson........it is 50 - 60 km long I believe.........but u dont need length........but depth........for big ships to pass through.......
RE:Give way to progress..
by Asim Mehtani on Sep 26, 2007 04:25 PM Permalink
Dear Johnson
Lord Ram was a avtar of Lord Vishnu in the form of human being. Since Lord Vishnu was born in the form of human being, so he also had to maintain the norms of Universe, and to franchise within the parameters of Universal Management. Anyone who has come to Universe have an importance with defined role. No one can ignore their importance. Therefore, all the concerns during Ram's period had an importance and roll pre defined, and they all have to play.
RE:Give way to progress..
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:42 PM Permalink
lolsss...........johnson......he had taken avtar of ram.....to vanquish ravan......and to show the world that truth wins........and normal human beins can fight evil........through worldly ways.....
RE:RE:RE:Give way to progress..
by sssssssssssss sssssssssss on Sep 26, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
would your father leave your m-o-m with the kidnapper if anybody abduct her?
RE:Give way to progress..
by Asim Mehtani on Sep 26, 2007 04:52 PM Permalink
Every creature in the earth has equal importance, that's why they have come to this earth. So Monkeys also has an importance. Lord Ram had shown the world, that even I am avtar of Lord Vishnu, but I did not have AHANKAR.
Whoever loves me honestly irrespective of any creature, I will also love them. Morevoer, animals are far better than Human Beings. It is totally unfortunate, that God has given beautifull thing to Human Being i.e. Brain, but Human Beings do not apply the same postively.
Any how, you guy will not understand all these things, since you are narrow minded.
RE:Give way to progress..
by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 26, 2007 07:08 PM Permalink
Don't use sarcasm for the sake of poking fun you ignorant man. Lord Rama was born as a human incarnation and throughout he lived life as a normal human being without any powers to establish what could be achieved by mankind alone without divine help. The ability to destroy evil, establish a democratic functioning where the Kind was answerable to his subjects and where he sacrificed his marital life to prevent anarchy among his kingdom for the wishes of his people, the selfless son, the worthy husband, the best friend who embraced so called lesser beings like the Dalit King and the humilated Sugreeva a monkey King, the entire role was meant to establish the good things a man could strive for and achieve to be a role model. As a man he worked hard to achieve spirituality and divine weapons the hard way to vanquish evil to show that even Gods should not take things for granted and for mankind to learn to work harder for their responsibilities. Which is why he ungrudgingly accepted a 14 year exile instead of usurping his father's throne to establish one's duties to family and one's own moral priorities. He established that while wars may be inevitable innocents cannot be slaughtered for political gains and this he demonstrated when he refused to accept the kingdom he won over from Ravana and gave it back to his family to Vibhishana and his army only killed those Lankans who came to fight for evil Ravana. he prevenetd lakshmana from using the Brahma-Astra against Indrajit though h
RE:Give way to progress..
by Vikas Bhatt on Sep 26, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
He prevented Lakshmana from using the Brahma-Astra against Indrajit though he was using unfair means of warfare as the weapon was devastating and could killed innocent Lankans in the process. Vishnu had a curse to live through given by Narada unknowingly - that of wife separation, and he accepted that karma despite being a God through Rama. It was message that no one could shirk their karma and suffering. Not even the Gods themselves. Idiots like you will never understand the reasons behind the events in Ramayana and poke fun at it without understanding what the message for mankind it holds. Ramayana is not about Rama but about human values, responsibilities and the moral way of living with a sense of duty and responsibility. I don't expect irresponsible trolls like you to expect it.
RE:mulla
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
yeah........even homosexuality is allowed in islam...........they promise 72 houries (virgins) and some 24 young men for jihadis in heaven......
There is 2 different law in India. Muslims can marry more then one wife, according to their holy Scripture (Quaran). But Hindu cannot marry more than once if the 1st wife is still alive or object. But Lord Rama's Father Dashratha has had more than one wife then where this law is from? Surely it is not from your Holy Scripture Ramayana, because it doesn't stop you to marry more than once.
RE:RE:Law in INDIA
by ALIYAR HUSSAIN on Sep 26, 2007 04:58 PM Permalink
Do u work for survey company? Increasing muslim population of India shows itself tells who are gays.
RE:Law in INDIA
by Asim Mehtani on Sep 26, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
English is very funny language. You will not find most of Hindi translations in English. The fact is that there is no English translation of Dharam. The English word is Religion. But Religion and Dharam are two different words with different meanings. In Hindi, we call Religion as 'Sampradya', like Hindu 'Sampradya', Muslim 'Sampradya', Christian 'Sampradya'etc., whereas in English, we will say Hindu Religion, Muslim Religion or Christian Religion. Dharam is world associated with Mankind. For example, 'Humanity is mankind', no one will say 'Humanity is Religion', but the same if you have to convey in Hindi, then the correct phrase in Hindi will be 'Manavta Hi Dharam Hai'. No one will say ' Manavata Hi 'Sampradya' Hai'. Therefore, Dharam is uniform word, associated to all Human Beings irrespective of any Professions, Religions. In view of the same, no one can separate Dharam even from Politics. Our Religious Book teaches us about Dharam, and are flexible enough to change as per the prevailing circumstances. Changes are always better according to our Gita. Therefore, as on life has progressed, Hindus also has changed according to the prevailing cicumstances from time to time. If Dashrath has more than one wife, it is not necessary for us that we should also have more than one wife. The vital factor is, whether we can absorb the good qualities of Lord Ram in ourselves or not to safeguard Dharam.
RE:Law in INDIA
by abhinav on Sep 26, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
Aliyar.......Porkistani.........single marriage concept was given prominence by lord Ram......that is why he is called purushottam.........and it was established as a law when India got indipendence in 1947.......
