RE:mullas have spoiled islam,pope and preists and politicians other religions
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 24, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
Who Cares what you believes.But one thing i want to tell you stop behaving like a Hypocrites.Are you afraid to take your real name?Why?I have seen in these forum my people posing as something else & debating things.Why are you Afraid to reveal your real identities.Come on..
RE:mullas have spoiled islam,pope and preists and politicians other religions
by ashish on Sep 24, 2007 01:16 PM Permalink
hey joker ismail ,all ur islamic funds are under scutiny in the usa and europe ,yest uwere barking usa is becoming muslim hahah u a good clown ,there is a pork babrbecue in my neighbours place tom ,ill be going
RE:mullas have spoiled islam,pope and preists and politicians other religions
by Jhantookishan Gaanduram on Sep 24, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Gods of Love and Ecstasy recounts the myth of Shiva's union with Vishnu, whilst the latter had taken the form of Mohini, the Enchantress. Vishnu, as Mohini, was resting by the ocean of milk when 'she' was approached by Shiva, who expressed the desire to unite with Vishnu. Vishnu, it is said, demurred, saying that union between two persons of the same sex was 'unfruitful'. It seems that Vishnu finally submitted to Shiva, as, depending on the version, the 'sap' that they spilled became the river Ganges, a son named Arikaraputtiran, or that the Seven Sages took the fallen seed and poured it into Anjani, the daughter of Gautama, who subsequently gave birth to the monkey-god, Hanuman. In other versions of this myth, it is this coupling which leads to the birth of Skanda.
RE:mullas have spoiled islam,pope and preists and politicians other religions
by Jhantookishan Gaanduram on Sep 24, 2007 01:15 PM Permalink
Now it is turn to issue fatwas by choti Dharis like Vedanti.
If BJP is indulging in violence then they don`t have any problem with rulers. If the same thing given to them then they are having problem. Tn is our state all the BJP and sangh parivar should function as GULAMS - Slaves. Okay. It is not possible to do anything BJP in Tamilnadu. If vedanti is having guts ask him to come to Tamilnadu.All exteremist hindu sangh parivars are cowards. Don`t try to mimick brave fatwas of other religions. Because sangh attacks only unarmed hapless minorities. If sangh is having guts then open an shakha in Bangladesh like PDP is running training camps in kerala
TAMIL COMMUNITY AND IT'S THOUGHTS ARE BEYOND TIMES. PERIYAR E V RAMASAMY WITNESSED THAT TRUTH AND TAUGHT THE TAMIL SOCIETY TO REMOVE THE CAST AND RELIGION DIVIDES. SO AS TAMILS WILL PRAISE THEIR OWN GODS AND TEMPLES AND LIKE TO GO WITH DRAVIDIAN PRICIPLES SAME TOGETHER. DRAVIDIAN PRINCIPLE IS PURELY BASED ON NATURE. WE WORSHIP NATURE AND GO WITH NATURE BUT NOT WITH RELIGION AND BLIND FAITH. BRAMHANISM WAS LONG BEFORE DEAD IN TAMIL COMMUNITY. SO TALKING ABOUT RAM OR ALLA WILL NOT MAKE ANY CAUSE IN THAT HOLY LAND. AFTER RAM..........BUDHA, MAHAVIRA,ADISANKARA WERE BORN AND TAUGHT THE REALITY OF OUR OWN SO CALLED 'HINDUISM' IN MODERATE WAY, BUT STILL MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE IS LIVING IN RAM ERA IS SAD ONE. AS NORTH WAS FOCUSSED ON BUILDING RAM TEMPLE IN AYODHYA, HERE AT SOUTH WE ESTABLISHED SOFTWARE MOVEMENTS TO PUSH OUR INDIAN ECONOMY. WHEN U PEOPLE INTERESTED IN EXECUTING GUJARAT RIOTS, H
RE:Hey reformer read this & I am a pure tamilian from Salem district of TamilNadu
by csoupramanien on Sep 24, 2007 01:18 PM Permalink
mr king thanx 4 honouring my line of words.
Now it is clearly the turn of the Congress to take advantage of the controversy and divert people's attention from its goof-up. Ramvilas Vedanti has clarified the matter and denied the statement ascribed to him; then what is the fuss by the DMK supremo all about. Instead of offering such meaningless advice to her incorrigible ally, she will be better off telling him not to issue persitently provocative and spiteful statements against the majority community
RE:Sonia on 'fatwa' on Karunanidhi
by dinesh kumar on Sep 24, 2007 01:08 PM Permalink
BALA,imagine urself in this situation. u r in an interview. u have furnished all documents. u have every recommendation letter. the interview panel has signed its approval. then suddenly,the same interview panel tells u that someone has called up and informed them about a crime u have committed. what will be ur first reaction? after crossing all the rounds,when the job is ready,this matter has come up. wouldnt u logically ask whether the person who called was REAL or IMAGINARY?
RE:Sonia on 'fatwa' on Karunanidhi
by ramprasad on Sep 24, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
HE HAS NOT GIVEN MEANINGLESS ADVISE. IT IS THE REPORT OF THE RESEARCHERS. COMMUNITY CANNOT BE LED FOOLISHLY ANY MORE. REMEMBER INCAPABLES WILL INSTIGATE FOOLS. INTELIGENTS WILL THINK GOOD AND BAD AND ACT. CAPABLES WILL EXECUTE THEIR TALENT SILENTLY. DECIDE WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION TO THE SOCISITY FOR PEASEFULL LIVING.
Can Karunanidhi prove to me that his true father is the same person as what he has in his birth certificate? Since his dad is DEAD, probably he cannot prove this thing, using Modern Science, since Modern Science could reach only up to Material level proofs, and not beyond that. While the material level world is a continuously changing matter, modern science cannot prove everything that is beyong the material level.
SO, IT IS NOT WISE AND GOOD FOR KARUNANIDHI TO ASK FOR PROOF OF LORD RAMA OR RAMAYANA, SINCE HIS SCIENCE IS ONLY LIMITED.
IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE TO SEEK SOMEONE AND TRUST THEM WHO ARE ENLIGHTENED AND WHO REALIZED THE ALL PERVADING DIVINITY OR GOD. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE IS A SAINT IN ANDHRA, CALLED SRI RAMADASA, AND HIS LIFE IS AS RECENT AS only 500 YEARS OLD. AT THAT TIME, MUSLIM RULER TANISHA WAS RULING AND SRI RAMADASA BUILDS A TEMPLE BY TAKING MONEY FROM PUBLIC, TANISHA LOCKS SRI RAMAMDASA TO REPAY, BUT LORD RAMA COMES AND PAYS THE MONEY TO TANISHA. THERE IS A TEMPLE STILL REVERED AS GREATE PLACE OF WORSHIP, CONSENTED BY TANISHA AT THAT TIME WITH HIS WORDS.
SIMILAR IS THE LIFE OF SRI KABIR DAS.
SO, WHEN IN DOUBT, LOOK TO THE ONES WHO ARE TRULY SPIRITUALLY ENLIGHTENED RATHER THAN BLINDLY ASKING FOR THE PROOFS WHICH THE MODERN SCIENCE CANNOT SHOW. SO, Donot treat everything that you cannot prove as a myth, just because you cannot prove it don't mean it doesnot exist or did not happen. I POSE SAME QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT EXISTENCE OF SRI RAMA
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by tamilan on Sep 24, 2007 01:10 PM Permalink
This project is for wellfare of Tamilnad. If u are going to talk about merits and demerits of the project we are ready to listen. Otherwise please keep away your dity politics from Tamilnad. We regret for MK's stupid remark Which may have hurt majority if people. but, that doesn't mean you people can stall the project. Already nothing consrtuctive going on in parliament. Now they come and try to stall all the development works just because they have to win some election in nearfuture. No, we at tamilnad will not such lunatic things happen in our state. Please, please, please stay away from our state
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by vivek on Sep 24, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
Hi tamilan.. very nice to see u back and ur views r exactly what i would like to give here... i just endorse it... great .. bye
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by sangineersha on Sep 24, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Let us not loose focus. What karunanidhi has spoken is very bad and he should not hurt sentiments of followers of RAM, many of them also belong so called minority community. Karunanidhi is a CM of a state and he should understand the responsibility of that chair. Shame on him to use such disgraceful words for the GOD, He should apologise for it publicly and people like u should not support on such low level utterings
RE:RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by tamilan on Sep 24, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
Our focus should be on the project and development of the nation. Ok,MK has done a wrong thing. We agree with u. Fine. Can we go ahead and complete this project now?
RE:RE:RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by tamilan on Sep 24, 2007 01:23 PM Permalink
And we never supported Mk's remarks as mentioned by you. All our concern is the project and its completion
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by ramesh pawar on Sep 24, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
it was TANE SHAH not TANISHA ...LORD RAMA CAME AND PAYED THE MONEY ...hahahaha ...RAMDAS WAS IN JAIL AND HE DIED IN JAIL ....it happened in GOLCONDA ......i dont know how you idiots get so much of ideas and time to waste ...
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
I am from this place called Bhadrachalam and I am also an engineer who donot just believe something just like that when I can verify things. And out of that verification, I am saying this that Sri Ramadasa was freed by Lord Rama after paying money by Lord Rama. The archealogical and historical facts prove this. By the way, i may look like an Idiot, but my view is that, those who view others as Idiots are the ones who are true idiots, since they donot know how to evaluate others. Just by assuming I donot say things. This is not my way as well, since If I create some confusion in people and if they act badly, then it Have to bear the consequences of that. In this world, even a bad thought originated by a person will get back to that person, and then how can I talk just nonsense.
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by ramesh pawar on Sep 24, 2007 01:19 PM Permalink
Sridhar who cares what you think and what is your way ...who cares whether you think i am idiot or not ...its your family who should care ...you might be a pain in your w1f's a$$....anyways stop boring people ...
RE:QUESTION TO ALL WHO DOUBT LORD RAMA EXISTENCE
by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 01:27 PM Permalink
Watch your words brother. You seems to be using foul language against me, while I am saying things in polite way. You can be persued by FBI or CBI in India for this by using your IP address. Believe me. FBI OR CBI may have enough things in their plate, but I can make them persue you for this abuse, especially when I am not talking anything abusive here. When I am not wrong, I can go to any extent and use all my force to persue my target. BE CAREFUL.
DEAR FRIENDS ,The religious issues would always crop up now and then always... and u will defntly have amessage board just to spew ur venom and ur voilent thoughts... i know everybody who fight for their religion here in this forum are not realy the same way when they r with the society... pls give up ur emotions and dont carry it anylonger... beacuse lets be human first and then colur us with whatever religion we like.. after all we live with the people we see and not with the god..
Khuda is great. Not like HINDU. Hindu's are no religion if so then a leader can't criticize HINDU. If you obey Metal that is GOD. So RAM is BHAGBAN. We muslim obey Ram. But not criticize our religion like Karunanidhi.
RE:BISMILLAH is Great
by Diamond Cutter on Sep 24, 2007 01:38 PM Permalink
Everybody knot it Mr. Pawar. He always instigate with rotten messages and fanatics reply with more rotten messages.
Untouchability, Child Marriage, Sati, no-entry to temple for lower castes, slavery and sexual abuse of lower caste ladies in the disguise of servant maids, denying education to lower castes, denying housing and land reforms to lower castes, usurping all the jobs in the organised sector, usurping all the seats in the educational institutes, asking the other castes to do their traditional jobs - meaning - a barber's son to be a barber etc, if a non-brahmin goes to Kanchipuram Sankara mutt - he is treated as pariah, in some temples males are asked to remove shirts just to identify whether they have "sacred threads" to identify brahmins and non-brahmins ....and so on and on ......
These are the some of the activities done by the so called upper caste Hindus (read Brahmins and nairs) before Periyar, Anna and Karunanidhi showed them their place. Now they are shouting using MK's remark on Ram as a disguise .....shout shout ....
This message is being reported for ABUSE repeatedly....Guess the level of tolerance has gone down considerably
RE:RE:untouchability
by ashish on Sep 24, 2007 01:05 PM Permalink
reformer few mts ago u were crying bout hindus gettin converted and now u askin sai ur slf to convert ???? u smokin ganga like ur naked sadhus?
RE:untouchability
by Mani on Sep 24, 2007 02:09 PM Permalink
That is why we got our own hindu gods and we have nothing to do with your way of Hinduism.
RE:untouchability
by sangineersha on Sep 24, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
Let us not loose focus. What karunanidhi has spoken is very bad and he should not hurt sentiments of followers of RAM, many of them also belong so called minority community. Karunanidhi is a CM of a state and he should understand the responsibility of that chair. Shame on him to use such disgraceful words for the GOD, He should apologise for it publicly and people like u should not support on such low level utterings
The theists have maintained, as we have seen, many false beliefs that have cost the lives of innumerable men and suffering incalculable;beliefs which they themselves have subsequently recognized as false but relinquished only by the onslaught of rising secular knowledge. Surely sufficient evidence has been noted to convince a thinking being that reason is a better guide than theism. Belief is the antithesis of reason; reason is rationality;religious belief is clearly mental abnormality.
RE:Stop believing in myths
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 24, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Who Cares what you believes.But one thing i want to tell you stop behaving like a Hypocrites.Are you afraid to take your real name?Why?I have seen in these forum my people posing as something else & debating things.Why are you Afraid to reveal your real identities.Come on..
RE:RE:Stop believing in myths
by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 01:07 PM Permalink
Dear Ismail I have every right o say what I feel don%u2019t intimidate me. I%u2019m a muslim but have lost faith in islam bcoz islam has just bought sufferings to the muslims I want to save them from this disease.
RE:Stop believing in myths
by Ismail Sayyed on Sep 24, 2007 01:13 PM Permalink
Prove to me that you r a muslim.Tell me which is the First letter of Quran.You are a Big Liar just pretending to be Muslim & spreading discontent among various communities.Tell me How much Your Forefather took to convert themselves,I will give you double than that to revert you Back.For People like you,only Money is God.That's y your womens are working as a secretaries & flirting with the Bosses.You are a disgrace to the Humanity.
RE:Stop believing in myths
by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 01:21 PM Permalink
I know its very hard for u to accept that a muslim can criticize Islam horde%u2019s of muslim intellectuals are moving away from islam only drug addicts and convicts are converting to islam . Pls don%u2019t say Islam is from god u are degrading God. Each page of the Quran u can see a God who is jealous and always threatning to belive him only else u will be burnt in hell. Khulau allahu ahad alahu samad lamiya walid is that enough
RE:RE:Stop believing in myths
by ramesh pawar on Sep 24, 2007 01:28 PM Permalink
@ IMRAN
now you proved that you are not a muslim ...you wrote wrong SURAH of MUSLIMS ....i was just searching and asked one of my muslim friend .....its not LAMIYA WALID ....shame on you ....what are you trying to do ....making your fellow religion people happy by acting as a muslim and abusing islam ...does it going to serve good to your religion or humanity ...does it going to make any difference to ISLAM and MUSLIMS ......you seems to be a traitor trying to spread hatred or a fanatic goon.
RE:Stop believing in myths
by ashish on Sep 24, 2007 01:14 PM Permalink
well said imran and tat ismail was crackin jokes yest sayin america and europe were converting to islam hahahah he shud go there and see how he survives with his muslim name
RE:Stop believing in myths
by ramesh pawar on Sep 24, 2007 01:24 PM Permalink
@ ASHISH
you convert ..first you guys get educated with CHARITY MONEY and RESERVATION ...and once you get oppurtunity you people decieve your motherland ...you traitors ...forget about ISLAM and HINDUISM ..think about your filthy religion CHRISTIANITY where your christians themselves abuses your god and jessus and mary ...
RE:Stop believing in myths
by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 02:15 PM Permalink
Ramesh it was a typing mistake anyway I dont have to prove anything to you. I can write a number of quranic verses. Khul Allahu Ahad Allahu samad lamy alid walayma ulad walmaya kullahu kufan ahad.Satisfied
TAMIL COMMUNITY AND IT'S THOUGHTS ARE BEYOND TIMES. PERIYAR E V RAMASAMY WITNESSED THAT TRUTH AND TAUGHT THE TAMIL SOCIETY TO REMOVE THE CAST AND RELIGION DIVIDES. SO AS TAMILS WILL PRAISE THEIR OWN GODS AND TEMPLES AND LIKE TO GO WITH DRAVIDIAN PRICIPLES SAME TOGETHER. DRAVIDIAN PRINCIPLE IS PURELY BASED ON NATURE. WE WORSHIP NATURE AND GO WITH NATURE BUT NOT WITH RELIGION AND BLIND FAITH. BRAMHANISM WAS LONG BEFORE DEAD IN TAMIL COMMUNITY. SO TALKING ABOUT RAM OR ALLA WILL NOT MAKE ANY CAUSE IN THAT HOLY LAND. AFTER RAM..........BUDHA, MAHAVIRA,ADISANKARA WERE BORN AND TAUGHT THE REALITY OF OUR OWN SO CALLED 'HINDUISM' IN MODERATE WAY, BUT STILL MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE IS LIVING IN RAM ERA IS SAD ONE. AS NORTH WAS FOCUSSED ON BUILDING RAM TEMPLE IN AYODHYA, HERE AT SOUTH WE ESTABLISHED SOFTWARE MOVEMENTS TO PUSH OUR INDIAN ECONOMY. WHEN U PEOPLE INTERESTED IN EXECUTING GUJARAT RIOTS, HERE AT SOUTH WE ARE KEEN ON PURA PRJECTS AND E-EDUCATION AND E-GOVERNANCE. BEWARE DIVISIVE FORCES, TAMIL LAND IS NOT FOR YOU.........INVADE THE LAND WHERE FOOLS ARE LIVING...
RE:no room 4 divisive forces in tamil nadu
by reformer on Sep 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
Crap.. Don't put same mssg everywhere. Use a organ if exists on ur shoulder
RE:no room 4 divisive forces in tamil nadu
by sangineersha on Sep 24, 2007 01:17 PM Permalink
Let us not loose focus. What karunanidhi has spoken is very bad and he should not hurt sentiments of followers of RAM, many of them also belong so called minority community. Karunanidhi is a CM of a state and he should understand the responsibility of that chair. Shame on him to use such disgraceful words for the GOD, He should apologise for it publicly and people like u should not support on such low level utterings