in ancient age how a guy can come to a dense jungle and kidnap a women without prior knowledge of the location and how he can goback to lanka that fast i doubt in this story.
RE:some important queries about ramayana
by Religious Scholar on Sep 24, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
its a myth....
definition of myth - 1) a traditional or legendary story, usually concerning some being or hero or event, with or without a determinable basis of fact or a natural explanation, esp. one that is concerned with deities or demigods and explains some practice, rite, or phenomenon of nature.
2) an unproved or false collective belief that is used to justify a social institution.
RE:some important queries about ramayana
by Suresh on Sep 24, 2007 11:57 AM Permalink
If Ravana did it then Veerappan did a decade ago. Do you want any more proof ?
RE:some important queries about ramayana
by sridhar gorantla on Sep 24, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
HEY. HOLD ON. ANCIENT TIMES DOESNOT MEAN ONLY LAST 2000 years or so. The universe is coming since ages, which spans across millions of years. The entire creation goes on in cycles from being very intelligent like everyone in the world at that time having higher level of enlightment and then moving in to ignorant levels and then again in to the enlightened stages. The cycle is divided into an Ascending Arc and a Descending Arc, each of 12,000 years. Within each Arc fall four Yugas or Ages, called Kali, Dwapara, Treta, and Satya, corresponding to the Greek ideas of Iron, Bronze, Silver, and Golden Ages.
The above is an excerpt from the "Autobiography of a Yogi" by Swami Paramahamsa Yogananda. here are acclaims for this book from all over the world - http://www.crystalclarity.com/yogananda/chap16.html
Search for the word Yuga and you will get the exact breakdown of these evolutionary cycles of life in endless cycle of divine drama.
Here is the acclaims for this book: http://www.yogananda-srf.org/special_ancmnts/ayanniversary/intro.html
IF THE MUSLIMS CAN ISSUE FATWA THEN WHY THE HELL A HINDU CANNOT ISSUE A FATWA COMMON LETS DO IT GIVE FATWAS ON EACH AND EVERY THING THEY (MUSLIMS) DOES, EVERY WORDS THEY SPEAKS, ETC ETC JAI BHARAT MATA HAI HINDU INDIA SHOULD BE FOR ONLY HINDUS NOTHING ELS
RE:FATWA
by maha moderator on Sep 24, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
but are there any dare rss/vhp/bandar dal activist dare to enter tn no they are cowards sice they prey to cow. its huge emaracement for them they cannot peotect this setu. it is going to demoolish
RE:FATWA
by tushar patkar on Sep 24, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
Why the hell do tamilians think that they are NOT hindus? They are an intergral part of India (hindustani) and will continue to be. Your problem here is that Ram was a Aryan. And Dravidians (read Tamilians) think that Aryans try to portray themselves superior. Puuhlleezz, this is the 21st centrury, wake up and try to get along with India as a whole!!!
RE:FATWA
by mist on Sep 24, 2007 12:19 PM Permalink
tushar..how many tamils do you meet in real life who tell you this? dont go with the fake msgs on rediff boards or what crap politicians like karunanidhi blabber....now if you think every tamil is like him because he is the cm then whole india is rotten because we elected rotten congress to power in the centre.
This is proof of the double speak of our politicians. On the one hand Lord Ram does not exist. On the other he is a drunkard
Another point to note is guys with more than one wife may not understand the ideals of Lord Ram. So forget this as a bunch of senile guys trying to ignite a nation towards communal unrest
RE:Lord Ram a drunkard who does not exist - What a contradiction
by Manmohan Chandola on Sep 24, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
That is why I keep on saying these leaders ans SOCALLED and MENTALLY CHANLLENGED.
RE:Lord Ram a drunkard who does not exist - What a contradiction
by eemani kiran on Sep 24, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
Lord ram told me last night, don't read much into a person who finds solace by sleeping with several women. Let's lose no time by thinking about this kind of barbarian barber, he is a useless creature living like a shit. He will die like that soon. Till then let's do whatever good work we need to, for our family and nation.
RE:RE:Lord Ram a drunkard who does not exist - What a contradiction
by maha moderator on Sep 24, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
yes it cannot be true how a man can be drunkard and a fighter it cannot be the same.
but rama doesnt have mustache but ravana has in your rammayana why they show him chikna
RE:Lord Ram a drunkard who does not exist - What a contradiction
by Lord Ram on Sep 24, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
Mahamoderator the question the question that is being posed is this?
If you do not believe in god say that. If you are in atheist so be it. We dont mind that. But your not believing in god does not give you a right to point out at a guy who believes in god and that too deride him. And if you are an atheist dont attend Ifthar parties
The fatwas given by these religious fanatics including mulsims and hindus shows how religion has made people intolerant and illogical.Organized Religion is a man made tragedy and should be banned for the better of society.
"Primitive man did not understand the natural cause of shadows, echoes,the birth and death of vegetable and animal organisms. Of this gnorance
religion was born, and theology was evolved as its art of expression."
RE:Tragedy
by JGN on Sep 24, 2007 11:55 AM Permalink
Hi Sameer, glad to meet you again. Unfortunately many people do not understand the futility of religions and the so-called holy (unholy) books!
RE:Tragedy
by Imran on Sep 24, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
Nice to meet u too JGN.Great to know ur thoughts its people like us who can save our future generation from the menacles of religion. Religion has proved time and again that it cannot do anyhting for society except create divisions.
Dear Mrs. Sonia Gandhi, When karunanidhi call Lord Rama drunkard where were your feelings of symapthy...Now when an Hindu heart burns and threatens of dire situations you say lets not Cowed down by the trhreats...
Where were your thoughts when Taslima Nasreen was threatedned openly in TV.....
RE:Sonia's intentions
by Manmohan Chandola on Sep 24, 2007 11:48 AM Permalink
For god sake do not insult the title of dather of the nation. PLEASE.............
RE:RE:Sonia's intentions
by Manmohan Chandola on Sep 24, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
Sorry spelling mistake in anger. PLEASE Do not insult the title of the father of the nation. first, she in no way called ne gandhi. Second, She has not done ANYTHING for the country and also she is not capable of doing so.
Sonia Maino has never condemed the Fatwas issued by crazy lunatic Mullahs. She did not condem the attack on Taslima Nasreen in Hyderabad, because the MLAs who did that were elected with Congress support. She does not have guts to raise a voice against the Osmama's of India
RE:What about fatwas by Mullahs
by maha moderator on Sep 24, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
relax suresh you will burn and die better have cold drink and digest it. its is the truth she will not condenm and she likes muslims than kandus like you
DMK will join BJP during election time. They enjoyed all privileges during the previous BJP rule and finally before 1 month they joined Congress. Luckily it worked for them and we can be able to see faces like TR Baalu, Paswan etc again.
Same will be repeated in early 2009 also.
Congress should come back to power without the support of DMK and Left. Then only India will prosper.
RE:DMK/BJP issue
by Suresh on Sep 24, 2007 11:47 AM Permalink
Congress is a party with 140 MPs and ruling the country, BJP has 137 and is sitting in the opposition. This can happen only in India
RE:DMK/BJP issue
by linus on Sep 24, 2007 12:27 PM Permalink
Nope..only one with absolute majority should be ruling which unfortunately seems to be an utopia looking at the number of divisions we are in our country and the number of ppl representing these divided people!!
Mr.Karunanithi's remark on Shri Ram is more surprising. Ofcourse he is an atheist. He is supposed to utter same remark when other religious matters were involved. My poor Tamilnadu state people is toiling under such political people without any other choice other than Karunanithi and Jayalalitha at this moment. His own party men will not accept the comments, he uttered. As an elderly stateman such kind of his comments signals his nearing end. Though RAM will forgive and forget him, let us see how Tamils will forgive him.
RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by Vasant Hegde on Sep 24, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
Hmmm. Its nice to see some one (in this case You) thinking positive and agressive. But politics is politics. I assume Tamilnadu has about 18-20% muslim, 2-4% Christaians, 40% Dravidians. All these communities must be rejoicing on Karuna's comments by this time. Wow that is on average about 62%. In Indian political and election system if you get on average around 35% of vote you will get a thumping majority in assembly. Thats what Karuna is eying on...Why do you think Amma is helpless and not commenting any? same reason and helplessly watching the seen of Karuna milking vote bank. Why do you think Amma arrested Kanchi Shri and Karuna watching helplessly? The same reason.
Do you think Advani and VHP's are dumb? No they are not! Instead of frowning like us they are actually rejoicing on Karuna's comment. The more he comment the more they milk the national level vote bank and suck the votes leftover in Tamilnadu. And once the election over they will have a coalition at the centre. So Amma, Congress and so on watching helplessly and waiting for their chance to fool us.
So we really need to pray Lord Ram to punish these cunning and arrogant Karuna and other athiests who may question our very existence.
RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by New face on Sep 24, 2007 01:02 PM Permalink
You are mistaken sir. Everybody in Tamilnadu are not rejoicing on this subject.
Hindus as known to everybody, live in fear in Tamilnadu. You could have seen everything live in Television channels, Party offices of a specific party being attacked by DMK Goons ably guided by Minsters. Police Force cannot against them. They are trying to prevent, but they cannot. They cannot act against the Government.
In One Place in Tamilnadu, there was an instance when some police tried to prevent DMK Cadre from burning L K Advani's effigy, the police themselves were manhandled by DMK Cadres.
In ooty, Vinayaga Chathurthi yatra, was vandalised by Christians. In Chennai, in various areas Ganesh idols taken out in procession were damaged by stone throwing mob. The basic point is that DMK Cadres have been so much brainwashed that most of them are atheist in nature as their leader just like Nazi Hitler style and these atheist elements vandalised everything.
When somebody asks nobody can be held responsible as this is done by a mob.
As such Antonio Sonia Mania is a pure christian and Karunanidhi is a supporter of every other religion /sect which is not Hindu. We cannot expect anything else from these two people at the Helm of affairs. The same problem of Minority ruling Majority by fooling them.
Antonio Manio Sonia using Gandhi name, though she is not in anyway connected with Gandhi family or Gandhian principles and His Highness Karunanidhi who like to rule Hindu majo
RE:RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by New face on Sep 24, 2007 01:03 PM Permalink
Antonio Manio Sonia using Gandhi name, though she is not in anyway connected with Gandhi family or Gandhian principles and His Highness Karunanidhi who like to rule Hindu majority by dividing them as Aryans / Dravidians.
RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by kiainth on Sep 24, 2007 11:49 AM Permalink
He is suspected man even in Rajeev Murder case and supporting LTTE, who are nothing but Ravan Sena. Let us eleminate all evil from this society and teach a lesson people like this idiot Karuna nidhi
RE:RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by linus on Sep 24, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Nobody is worrying about Tamils you fool..most of the people posting in this forum are worried about the threat to their religion and their way of life and religion is not fixed by boundaries of a state !!
RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by Sanjeev on Sep 24, 2007 11:51 AM Permalink
The naive will "Forgive and Forget" - The stupid will not Forgive and will not Forget. The wise will Forgive but not Forget - Thomas Szaaz.
Lets Forgive MK now and not forget during election times.
RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by New face on Sep 24, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
Be with Karuna. He is the only person who can instigate and lead rowdy elements in damaging Ganesh Statues taken out by Hindus yesterday.
Come on. Kalimuthu. Gain maturity. May be you have got free television set and free land from Karunanidhi. That does not mean you will meekly surrender to this Blacksheep calling himself as Tamil Leader, but for want of rule divides the Hindu population of Tamilnadu on basis of Aryans / Dravidians.
Just think for One minute on the Words of His Highness Karunanidhi. He is asking where is Ram.
If he can argue that Ram is not there and the Bridge is not constructed by Ram, he just is forming the platform from where he can attack all Hindu Gods.
Let us understand Hinduism started before the period of inscriptions. His Highness is askign a question from which Engineering College Rama got the Certification. Great observation. What does he is trying to specify? He means to say all temples were sprung just like that all over the country as SUN TV has sprung up. No, there were technical people at all times and thay have been doing these type of construction for us Tamils and Indians altogether.
First, the mindset of Tamil people has to be changed. We call ourselves most educated and we attack all Party offices all over the State in a Single day and damage ganesh statues all over the state in one single day.
His Highness proved once again without Doubt that his party is a Hindu Hating Party and all Hindus who are supp
RE:RE:A statesman's bankrupcy
by New face on Sep 24, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
His Highness proved once again without Doubt that his party is a Hindu Hating Party and all Hindus who are supporting are being taken by him for a ride.
RE:muslim brothers!
by Ali boy on Sep 24, 2007 11:52 AM Permalink
dear kiran why do you drag muslim brothers into this by the way which muslim do you think is in favour of any political party,they were betrayed by congress which was in power when the mosque was demolished they were brutally massacred in Gujrat when bjp was and is in power and they have nothing to do with DMK so where do you think we are in favour or deny the role of your problems. Tasleema is not from your country and she is not a muslim so if you think we should condemn the fatwa against her we condemn the very fact that she poses as a muslim. So what now.
The whole Dravidian Politics, from the days of Periyar, Anna and MK revolves around the atheism and anti-brahminism. So its no surprise on the standing of MK. Periyar is known to broken the statues of Ganesha to show his anti-brahminism protest.
The stand against god is taken to root out lot of bacward practises prevailed at that time - practises like child marriage, sati, no-entry to temple for backward castes. All these activities are carried out in the disguise of Hindu traditions and to effectively take into the masses - these anti-God protests are used.
Debates can go on and on, all types of expletives can be used against Karunanidhi - but the fact is - because of the Dravidian parties in TN and because of communists in Kerala - the domination of Brahmins and Nairs have become less in TN and Kerala.
So guys, cool, Heaven doesnt fall if someone says Rama does not exist or says Rama is a drunkard.
RE:On Fatwa
by sangineersha on Sep 24, 2007 11:50 AM Permalink
When somebody will question the character of ur mother or ur daughter, and ask ur 4th generation about ur crendtial to prove than u will understand the meaning of COOL or HOT.Always put ur self in such situatons and u will get the answer, so beware before writing such shits.
RE:RE:On Fatwa
by New face on Sep 24, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
Be with Karuna. He is the only person who can instigate and lead rowdy elements in damaging Ganesh Statues taken out by Hindus yesterday. May be you have got free television set and free land from Karunanidhi. That does not mean you will meekly surrender to this Blacksheep calling himself as Tamil Leader, but for want of rule divides the Hindu population of Tamilnadu on basis of Aryans / Dravidians.
Just think for One minute on the Words of His Highness Karunanidhi. He is asking where is Ram.
If he can argue that Ram is not there and the Bridge is not constructed by Ram, he just is forming the platform from where he can attack all Hindu Gods.
Let us understand Hinduism started before the period of inscriptions. His Highness is askign a question from which Engineering College Rama got the Certification. Great observation. What does he is trying to specify? He means to say all temples were sprung just like that all over the country as SUN TV has sprung up. No, there were technical people at all times and thay have been doing these type of construction for us Tamils and Indians altogether.
First, the mindset of Tamil people has to be changed. We call ourselves most educated and we attack all Party offices all over the State in a Single day and damage ganesh statues all over the state in one single day.
His Highness proved once again without Doubt that his party is a Hindu Hating Party and all Hindus who are supporting are being taken by him for a ride.
