If there good hindus will be happy and he will he will do his duty if not here
no problem still the world will contiue
but if ram is not there then how can BJP and brahmin champions survive
only when you accept ram 1. BJP can come to power 2.demolish mosque 3. burn two innocent tamilians 4.ram sethu will be there 6.jayalalith can buy the kodanuadu estate 7. brahmins can establish their supermacy
RE:Is Ram There?
by deep dar on Sep 25, 2007 08:43 AM Permalink
Only when you accept there is no Ram: 1. DMK and Communists can come to power. 2. Loot temples and distribute money to mosques and churches. 3. Make Hindu women run naked around the town. 4. No Ram Sethu, no temples. 5. YSR can demolish the last obstacle in his path, the Tirumala temple. 6. Mlecchas can establish their supremacy.
So, DMK would rather Ram isn't there.
However, going by the latest events, the DMK chief has gone silent. WHY???
BECAUSE THE BJP PUT THE FEAR OF GOD INTO THE SADIST, POLYGAMIST KARUNANIDHI!!!
RE:Is Ram There?
by Jeffrey Sharma on Oct 27, 2007 12:12 PM Permalink
All DmK and dravids are interested in converting to christianity. Mk's son Stalin seems to be christian by his name. If hindus remove caste system upper and lower, only then we can have great hinduism, else hindu will be story of yesteryears and all thoese millions of gods will vanish in thin air.
As a leader Karunanidhi should not have said about engneering college of Rama alright. But it is insane to say fatwa and other things. One can talk of sentiments etc. but Hindus do not kill some one for expressing opinions, what ever they may be.
Please do not use the word Hindu. Arya is the true word. Hindu word was coined by Muslim Arabs it means a thief or something similar. Somepeople now claim that it refers to river Sindhu. Anyway Hindu word is not found in the vedas. Please do not worship stones or animals as the vedas believe in one formless god. Arya Samaj is the only true Hindu movement. In Arya temples you will not find idols of any demi-gods. Gita also says that do not worship demigods.
Gita Seventh Chapter, twentieth verse:
"Those whose minds are distorted by material desires surrender unto demigods and follow the particular rules and regulations of worship according to their own natures."
RE:Arya not Hindu
by deep dar on Sep 25, 2007 08:45 AM Permalink
I don't understand the harm in worshipping idols. As long as you have faith in dharma, whether you worship idols, meditate, or just do your work for which you have entered the world, it makes no difference.
Regarding many Gods, the various forms of Gods are there to signify the various features of His personality. The Supreme God is Lord Vishnu, as explained clearly in the Vedas.
RE:Arya not Hindu
by Anil Hingorani on Sep 25, 2007 09:17 AM Permalink
This phrase needs to be understood in appropriate context and it is being misquoated in the context cited by you. This statement has a deeper meaning for spiritual high risers.
In a way this statement implies that one does need idol worship initially as the supreme cannot be visualised or imagined without a personification (prototype or model). People worship idols to gain spiritual height as well as material possessions, however the aim should be go into advanced spirituality where a human mind no longer needs the aids of form, color, sound to understand the supreme who is formless and omnipotent.
Likewise, all religions in a way do idol worship, including those who openely oppose it. Simply put, when anybody regardless of religion beleives that God listens, god sees, god gives, god punishes, god saves etc. is modeling or personifying god by attributing God with ears, eyes, heart etc. Hindus being most advanced in spiritual science go a step further to give a form, beauty and power symbols to the same God. Worshipping god in idols or non-idolic personification is an important (though optional) step in a spiritual cycle. Unfortunately those driven by mullahs, maulvis and those driven by pastors and priests who got converted by false means and still take pride in being fooled will not understand these finer intricacies.
RE:RE:Arya not Hindu
by Anil Hingorani on Sep 25, 2007 09:23 AM Permalink
Just to conclude..........Therefore in a bid to encourage people to go advanced in spirituality, hindu scriptures signal to a aspirant that he/she needs to go beyond idols to seek the supreme self, else there is no harm in worshipping idols.
u.p. repeated the 1857 history when it uprooted congress (i- i for italian). the repeat of history of 1857 thus was heartening to most, but india is also finding itself repeating the hisotry that took place follwoing the 1857 war which saw the gains of war slip away.
senile k has made a mistake in helping congress (i - i for italian) find a place to hide it was desperately looking for when it took anti-hindu stand on the setu. the indian history of the aftermaths of 1857 war of independence is repeating itself in that the indian infighting is helping foreign power to consolidate itself at center. i think sai baba ji needs to step in and make k apologize, and toss the ball back to the fumbling congress.
DMK government has taken action aginst their own men for attacking BJP offices. But UP Government has not taken any action againt Ramvilas vedanti who is publicly asking his followers to murder a chief minister (karunanidhi).See difference in administration in one India!
RE:RE:Ten DMK men held over post-fatwa rampage
by deep dar on Sep 25, 2007 08:47 AM Permalink
You seem to know very much about hinduism, you stupid Periyar worshipper!
RE:Let Hinduism progress
by Ramachandran K on Sep 25, 2007 03:57 AM Permalink
Can tell me who are really Hindus??? then we can discuss of its progress...and progress of India for last 2000 yrs
