RE:DMK is the Nazi party of India
by Parrupu Dasan on Sep 23, 2007 08:08 PM Permalink
the last line shoul read "But ultimately the truth will never change - What is right will never become wrong"
RE:DMK is the Nazi party of India
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
Well said...
Yes there are idiots and nutcases in every community, including bramins. Mani sankar Iyer, Buddhadeb are some fools . That mahant is a lunatic. But DMK is systematically Nazist and trying to whip up non existent caste divide
You first come to reality. Here in 2007, brahmins are Chief Minister in only 3 out of 27 states. That are also insignificant states (Delhi, Uttarkhand) and West Bengal(CM is actually atheist).
Bramin domination is a myth. Thing is you find more bramins in colleges etc, because most of them live in cities and they took to english first. Out of top 10 businessmen in India, not even 1 is a bramin.
Even BJP doest want bramins - all their CMs are OBCs or Rajputs and their national leader has preferred that way too.
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 07:59 PM Permalink
Dont bring Caste into it.. It is about social justice and equality .. nothing to do with any caste.
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
You started bringing the caste issue. I showed how OBCs are ruling and controlling present day TN, and you cant counter my points/
Give up the agenda of hate. My disc has nothing to do with caste. It is warning people about one party one family rule policy in the state. We want democracy. We dont want a dictator or family rule in TN. Got it?
RE:RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2007 08:04 PM Permalink
The project is for the betterment of our country . If you have anything related to it, talk about it or get lost.
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 08:07 PM Permalink
I have taken great care not to target any caste/community .. But there are issues I hvae pointed out for the greater good of Mankind and India. If that indirectly referred to anyone, I cant apologise.
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by on Sep 23, 2007 08:03 PM Permalink
Aethist in western world and southern india, fikka hindu community which is about to vanish soon , all hate hindus.. only one solution.. turn to islam make india the islamic caliphate allah's grace is doing this because he wants all of you to convert to islam Everybody convert to islam Thats the only solution for every thing in this world Nobody can dare to protest against islam and nobody can dare to be an aethist from islam islam rocs
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by vasudev on Sep 23, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
Well, Karunanidhi, TR Balu and CO were so agitated, when thier attempts to build setu samudram because, there is lot of money involved, we know where it goes finally and other conspiracy is that there is lot of Pressure from Srilankan Tamils for thier activities ( Sword on Karunanidhi's neck).. this fellow remarks against Lord Shri Ram shows his desparate mindset...Most important thing that everyone is forgettting that already ecologists warned that there would be serious envirnmonetal consequences if they complete the project......in form of Psunamis and cyclones..Its not for Tamilnadu's development at all ..instead fishermen of five districts will loose their livelyhood...the project is going to benefit only the minsters involved....awake guys..dont blindly support this blind man..just because he is using Tamil card..its hightime to realize.....Some idiotic guys putting all Tamilians at risk.... Already Tamilians has problems and fightings with neighbouring states...dont over do it..
RE:THIS IS FOR DMK FOLLOWERS...
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
Why do you keep repeating the same thing over and over like our friend mgr fan. I have already replied
If not for Periyar and Anna, what was the social [position of the depressed communities. How were they treated? What access did they have to opportunities?
RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 07:54 PM Permalink
Here we go...
TN has history of 3000 years.
Out of them for 2800 years, OBCs only ruled.
Chera, CHola , Pandya, Pallava, Naikars , Reddiars all OBCs.
It was british who changed things. They wanted people who know english to rule.
OBC rich people were satisfied being mirasudars . Bramins were poor and they took to english since they had the habit of learning more than 1 language. That is why bramins took to bureaucracy in time of periyar. Still 90% of bramins were poor. Only 10% enjoyed power. All that changed by kamarajar period.
There was no periyar anna in Karnataka, Gujarat, AP, Orissa, MP etc, and these states, you can find only OBCs and non brahmins in power.
RE:RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 07:57 PM Permalink
dont change the topic. Only Kerala has better system of social justice than Tamil Nadu. All the other states have either problems relating to Feudalism or Naxalism.
Besides, we are talking about basic stuff like education, temple entry etc. You can convince yourself that your behaviour was right.. but not the millions of oppressed people who come out to vote in elections.
RE:RE:RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
What are you joking? You are talking that except TN all states are in stone age? Have you gone to karnataka? Absolutely ruled by OBCs...
As for education and temple entry, you can keep lying, but Chera/Chola/pandya all OBCs and they ruled the state. Why they could hv changed it. What about thiruvalluvar, a Dalit, he wrote a book and he never spoke about bramins, he only says god is starting of everything.
Stop your Hitlerist agenda. It wont work. There are practically no bramins in the state and most people dont even recognise it. You try against some other group instead. Give up your agenda of hate.
RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by san man on Sep 23, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
Karunanidhi is NOT Periyar. Next you will claim that Bush is George Washington, or that Stalin is Marx. Karunanidhi is an opportunist who has hijacked Periyar's ideas, just like Karunanidhi and your friends are hijacking names like 'atheist', 'rationalist' to pursue your communal agenda.
RE:RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by san man on Sep 23, 2007 08:00 PM Permalink
I want to keep answering this crooked Michael Jackson, who loves to take skin injections. I certainly won't run away from this Jackson or his questions.
Opportunity comes from free market economics, and the Stalin-loving Karunanidhi opposes free market economics. He only trusts in ABSOLUTE CONTROL BY THE DRAVIDIAN STATE. Karunanidhi's command economy ideology invented by his hero Stalin will never create opportunity in Tamil Nadu. The Stalin-loving Karunanidhi will never allow free-market choice or free-market opportunity, which is the real source of economic development for everyone. Karunanidhi only trusts in state control, so that he can make sure that all economic activity conforms to his racial requirements.
Nazi = NationaleZocialisteArbeiterPartie (english: National SOCIALIST WORKERS Party)
RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 08:05 PM Permalink
Do you mean to say there is State COntrol over the Economy? Give me a break ... Tamil Nadu is quite competitive in the Industrial Arena .. The Economy is doing very well lately..
RE:RE:San Man and MGR FAN
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
90% of bramins were also poor. A small minority were having powre and position. All that went away with Kamarajar itself. And remember that Anna ruled only 2 years, karuna 14. We had MGR and Jayalalitha and OBCs are ruling everything. Bramins have been eliminated. So dontt try your 97%-3% nazi trick. It wont work.
RE:DEAR FELLOW TAMILS
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 07:53 PM Permalink
No real Tamilian will believe that Caste supremacy, northern hegemony, bimaru politics, communal riots etc. are good for tamil nadu
RE:DEAR FELLOW TAMILS
by kadwa sach on Sep 23, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
Jackson, it seems that you have a general hatred of so called "north" - I guess basically everything above Tamil Nadu. And you are tamil nationalist over being Indian? Who taught you all this that north has been bad for tamil people? Have any north indian people you know have been bad to you all the time since you were born?
Or have you read this in hostory or some elders have inculcated this kind of philosophy in you? How did they know? Basically someone else thought it.... For whatever reason they did.
Know this - no one can hold anyone else back if there is a real desire to progress. Take the case of TN itself. They reason there has been progress int he past decade is because there were right policies or "desire" to progress to a certain goal. Did the way center treats state or the way your usual hurt or "north" treat Tamil bad change? Still there is progress. May be you should stop blaming others for everything that has been wrong and look inwards where the real reason lies.
RE:DEAR FELLOW TAMILS
by sai on Sep 23, 2007 08:22 PM Permalink
Yeah only Tamilians will believe it...Coz TAmil Nadu has always been India not just part of India..People like you who like to fight for every stupid reason available .. would say aryans are invaders.. Well i dont support caste hierarchy but i dont really believe the aryan invasion theory taught by the British either(coz it doesnt have any practical reasoning) I know many brahmins who could be considered dravidian by race..
RE:RE:DEAR FELLOW TAMILS
by sai on Sep 23, 2007 08:40 PM Permalink
Yes brahmins like to study and have the resources.. why dont you fight with karunanidhi about this?? Karuna is not a dalit.. nor does he look dravidian by race.. may be you dont either but you wanna fight .. Karunanidhi would be one of the richest guys in India why does he still want his sons to succeed him he can retire if he isnt greedy but he still acts like he fights for the dalits(dalits are not born out of caste or race but coz of poverty but the Congress party has redefined the meaning to make it seem like dravidians are the dalits and aryans are the other castes w3hich is nto true)..As for muslims,did anyone ask them to have 20 children and 3 wives? with no condom usage? Obviously he cannot afford education or living for 20 of them nor would those 20 be interested in studying like the brahmins ,so we would see them in pan shops etc... now being a pan wala or a driver is not something bad but people like you want them to study and be IIT professors
RE:DEAR FELLOW TAMILS
by HateLoveMyTeam on Sep 23, 2007 08:24 PM Permalink
AsaiThambi, The reservation.This is nothing to do with Karunanidhi insulting Hindu's feelings. 99% of Hindus are not Brahmins. You guys (so called rationlists) ask Karunanidhi to shut up and not to insult any one feelings.
RE:EVEN DMK FAMILY WOMEN DISLIKE KALAIGNER TV...
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
So enna solla vara ippa. Overheat ayiduchupa brain rest kodu
RE:EVEN DMK FAMILY WOMEN DISLIKE KALAIGNER TV...
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
Simple. YOur Party wasted public money in a TV and it has failed. Your party wastes public money in waste schemes that are failure. Like the 2 acre land scheme, Sethu etc
RE:EVEN DMK FAMILY WOMEN DISLIKE KALAIGNER TV...
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2007 07:56 PM Permalink
Not all . Sethu project will only benefit Tn people. Maybe his 2 acre land scheme TV was a failure . But how can you be sure this is going to be one such scheme. The central govt is ready to implement it only after it carried out a feasibility study.
RE:EVEN DMK FAMILY WOMEN DISLIKE KALAIGNER TV...
by san man on Sep 23, 2007 07:50 PM Permalink
You are not a rationalist, stop using a false name. I am an atheist and a rationalist, and I know that DMK racial ideology is not rationalism. They are simply using the name of atheism to pursue their communal agenda. They are communal racists. I urge all my fellow atheists to condemn these racists. Racists have no place amongst rationalists or atheists.
RE:RE:EVEN DMK FAMILY WOMEN DISLIKE KALAIGNER TV...
by san man on Sep 23, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
DMK is like the National Socialist movement of Germany, which Karunanidhi admires. Karunanidhi even named his own kid after another European mass-murderer whom he admires, Joseph Stalin. It shows what Karunanidhi aspires to become.
Well, Karunanidhi, TR Balu and CO were so agitated, when thier attempts to build setu samudram because, there is lot of money involved, we know where it goes finally and other conspiracy is that there is lot of Pressure from Srilankan Tamils for thier activities ( Sword on Karunanidhi's neck).. this fellow remarks against Lord Shri Ram shows his desparate mindset...Most important thing that everyone is forgettting that already ecologists warned that there would be serious envirnmonetal consequences if they complete the project......in form of Psunamis and cyclones..Its not for Tamilnadu's development at all ..instead fishermen of five districts will loose their livelyhood...the project is going to benefit only the minsters involved....awake guys..dont blindly support this blind man..just because he is using Tamil card..its hightime to realize.....Some idiotic guys putting all Tamilians at risk....
RE:Who has benefit out of Setu Samudram Project??
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
Problem is tamils are very innocent and emotional and some of them fall to these rope tricks of this man. But majority will soon understand this fellow's trick..
RE:Who has benefit out of Setu Samudram Project??
by Rationalist on Sep 23, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
Let some scientists say that. I don't want to read reports written by shastris , sehadris, iyers , Iyengars. We should let someone competent enough say a Harvard professor or a Mit professor deal with it. Let him do a complete analyis . We'll accept it then. I don't want to listen to the nonsense spewing from inane Advani
RE:Who has benefit out of Setu Samudram Project??
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 07:50 PM Permalink
Neither the Sri Lankan Government nor Sri Lankan Tamils have stated anything on this project. Just do a bit of reading.. Neihter Government Papers nor Pro-Tamil sites have a opinion. Your scare-mongering will work in the BIMARU states and with uneducated people.
Although I don't support the fatwa issued by the insane BJP MP, Dmk and it's leader have proved to be a greater embarrasment. I was under the impression that most Tamils are religious Hindus. Probably I was wrong, otherwise what would justify Tamils electing such a leader over and over again???
Someone shud ask Karunanidhi if he believes in God at all? I think it's not onlt about Ram anymore, a leader and his party workers are threatening to stop Hindus from doing Ganesh Visarjan in a Hindu majority state and country.
THATS COMMUNAL, AIN'T IT?
Its ok if Karunanidhi is atheist but he needs to respect everyone else's faith. Thats the definition of secularism in our Constitution.
RE:Difference between an Atheist and Communal person
by abhijeet nandy on Sep 23, 2007 07:52 PM Permalink
You mean voting for PMK and MDMK was not a foolish mistake.....PMK party workers are bigger goons, they are casteist. And MDMK supports terrorists(read LTTE).
And Congress is a non-entity in TN....you think DMK won because of Congress in TN...hahaha, thats funny. Infact the seats Congress won in TN is all because of DMK. And when people voted for the alliance partners I am sure they knew they were voting for the DMK chief....like when people vote for UPA at national level they know they vote for Sonia Gandhi
