THERE IS NOTHING LIKE DRAVIDIANS OR ARYANS ...ALL ARE MADE TO DIVIDE HINDUS. TAMILNADU UTILIZED IT TO THE MAXIMUM...TO DIVIDE PEOPLE AND TO ASK FOR A SEPERATE COUNTRY. EV RAMASWAMY NAICKER(PERIYAR) DREAMT OF MAKING A SEPARATE COUNTRY LIKE JINNAH. SO PERIYAR IS AN UNSUCCESSFUL JINNAH WHO DID NOT SUCCEED. ANNADURAI IS A FOLLOWER OF PERIYAR...TRIED HARD FOR SEPRATE COUNTRY. BUT THE STATES THAT WAS UNDER THE STATE 'MADRAS, BROKE UP INTO CARNATIC, KERALA AND TN. NO DRAVIDIAN PARTY WAS IN CARNATIC OR KERALA AND EVEN THEY DONT KNOW WHO ARE DRAVIDIANS. TN STILL HAD DRAVIDIANISM LEFT IN THEM...EVEN THEY HAD AN INFERORITY COMPLEX OF THEIR SKIN COLOR WHICH IS PURE BLACK WHEN COMPARED TO OTHER BROWN SKINNED INDIANS(WHICH IS REFLECTED IN THEIR SONGS). ILLETERACY TO THE MAXIMUM AT THAT TIME MADE TAMILIANS BELEIVE THIS IDEOLOGY EVEN IF THEY DONT KNOW WHAT IS DRAVIDIANISM. THEY WERE ISOLATED IN THE SOUTH WITH THESE OUTDATED IDEAS TILL A TIME CAME-UP FOR COALITION POLITICS, WHERE REGIONAL PARTIES PLAYED A MAJOR PART..THEN CAME DMK AND AS WE ALL KNOW.
SO GUYS VOTE FOR EITHER OF THE NATIONAL PARTIES...AND DONT GIVE A ROOM FOR ALL THESE REGIONAL PARTIES...WHO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE NATIONAL INTEREST.
-THINK FOR THE NATION AND NOT FOR THE STATE ALONE.
RE:QUESTION FOR MGR FAN
by savior on Sep 23, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
I guess even now if DMK is sure that BJP will return to power it will align with it. But DMK knows BJP is nowhere in picture so they just whip up passions for the sake of elections on some issue. BJP is doing the same thing.
RE:QUESTION FOR MGR FAN
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
ANYTHING WITH DMK IN IT WILL BE OPPOSED. DO U THINK URSELF AS AN INDIAN FIRST OR TAMILIAN???????????????????????????????
RE:Loh Purush
by Shivkumar Singh on Sep 23, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
Insightful Ramdas. But pls remember that the buck for qandahar and alliance with the thirdrate towel wallah rested with vajpayee.
Loh Purush in my view is a better choice. At least in 1989, he stood up for Raam and helped Hindu mobilisation.
RE:RE:Loh Purush
by Ramdas Iyer on Sep 23, 2007 10:14 PM Permalink
If as U say Shivkumar Sigh, Loh Purush stood up for the Hindus in 1989, what happened today? The Hindu in TAmil Nadu is treated like a concubines son and the Loh Purush is so silent? Can he go back to Coimbatore where his death was plotted by the Dravidians in 1992 and ask Karunanidhi and Achutanandan why they begged for Abdul Nasser Madani's release?
did anyone at any time obstruct u from praying to rama. the tamils are a tolerant and inclusive people. we are godfearing and peaceful. we dont need ur reminders that tamils are religious. opposition to a political party is a democratic right. but u r rabid and u are frothing at the mouth with ur propaganda.
RE:mgrfan
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
1. Yes,t hey attacked rama temples, put chappal garlands in 60s. 2. Tamils are not same as DMK. Not all Tamils worship your karnnanidhi 3. Your karunanidhi worship borders on propaganda 4. As for godfearing and peaceful, DMK is neither that is shown on 9 May 2007 and today.
DMK is not same as tamils, just like BJP is not Hinduism
RE:mgrfan
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
DMK IS KARUNANIDHI'S SHIT. KARUNANIDHI IS ANNADURAI'S SHIT. ANNADURAI IS RAMASWAMY NAICKER'S(PERIYAR'S) SHIT. NAICKER IS THE SHIT OF A 'NAI'(IN TAMIL 'NAI' IS DOG)
RE:RE:mgrfan
by dinesh kumar on Sep 23, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
the tamils do not worship rama. brahminism which was tormenting the people was demolished by periyars movement. this is where the misinformation comes. u are conveniently adding a point that rama temples were attacked.
RE:mgrfan
by dinesh kumar on Sep 23, 2007 10:08 PM Permalink
dei,im a tamilian and i have never prayed to rama. saivism is the predominant religion of tamilnadu. rama was used by periyar to symbolise the manu based systems.
RE:RE:mgrfan
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
IF U ARE A TAMILIAN DOESNT MEAN ALL TAMILIANS ARE LIKE U.... TAKE THE NAME OF PERIYAR...WHAT WAS HIS NAME.. .E V 'RAMA'SWAMY 'NAI'CKER..... THIS SHOWS HIS PARENTS BELEIVED IN RAMA...
RE:RE:mgrfan
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 10:09 PM Permalink
WHAT DO U MEAN BY MAINSTREAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!. TAMILIANS IF THEY ARE HINDUS WOULD WORSHIP RAMA...DONT TALK NONSENSE
RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:53 PM Permalink
I said that ramar is part of our culture, just like Tamil Islam, Tamil Christianity and Ayyavazhi and sabarimala...
Chera/Chozha/Pandiyas worshipped Siva. That is well known. TN is saivist, but at same time vaishnavism was tolerated. Many kings were also Jains.
BUT NOT EVEN ONE KING WAS ATHEIST. ATHEISM IS A DMK ALIEN IMPORT TO TN CULTURE.
RE:RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 10:21 PM Permalink
MK IS AN ATHEIST...THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.... AND NOT BEING AN ATHEIST WHY ARE U BACKING THE WORDS OF AN ATHHEIST...
MIND U RAMSETHU IS A PART OF INDIA...IT DOES NOT BELONG TO TAMILIANS ALONE... SO HAVE THE RIGHT OT DECIDE ON WHAT IS TO HAPPEN...
U AND UR KALAIIIIIIII......FBVCVHBVE.....JUST SEE WHAT IS TO HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by Shivkumar Singh on Sep 23, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
My friend, pls dont kid yourself. There is nothing like tamil christianity or tamil islam. Tamil native faiths remain rooted in Hinduism.
And but for islamist and christian manipulations, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism remain Hindu too - both in spirit and in practice.
RE:RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by dinesh kumar on Sep 23, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
the existence was denied when the bjp which had approved the sethusamudram project and also the present alignment used RAMA to oppose the project.
RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 23, 2007 09:59 PM Permalink
Karunanidhi is a Tamil Scholar.....? Naanum oru Thamizhan. But he is not a Tamil Scholar. He is a Tamil Traitor. Dont confuse yourself buddy...!!
RE:Answer Me MGR FAN
by CHAKKAR on Sep 23, 2007 10:16 PM Permalink
JACKSON...FOR U ...KALAINGAR MIGHT BE A SCHOLAR AND AS A PARTY WORKER U R DOING UR JOB ...BUT DO IT IN TAMILNADU AND AND NOT HERE...
RE:Atheist
by Lucky B on Sep 23, 2007 10:07 PM Permalink
You will learn after that. So you are accepting that you believe in disrespect to other's belief and faith.
RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by Shivkumar Singh on Sep 23, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
This is idiotic Jack. Since you seem to be a Christian or somone influenced by DMK you dont seem to know the History. The Chola and Pandya Kings actively supported Vaishnavism. INDEED, KAMBA RAMAYAN WAS SPONSORED BY CHOLA KING.
RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by Jackson on Sep 23, 2007 09:52 PM Permalink
Supported Vaishnavam for a minority.. they were Saivites... Kamban was ostracised after some time .. Remnants of Vaishnavam are from Telugu invaders and not Tamil Kings.,.
RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by Chandramouleeswaran Baskaran on Sep 23, 2007 11:00 PM Permalink
Iam not sure which Tamil king you are talking about, even the most elementary student would know about the alwars, they composed the dhivyaprabandham, alwar paasurai in more chaste tamil than Mu Ka can ever dream of. Infact some of the Alwars were kings themselves. Im sorry even so many of the Sivaji films havent made u literate about those. No wonder DMK is successful in brainwashing every one in TN. Im sure that 80% of the current DMK MLAs are theist, if Mu Ka believes so let him keep it to himself and not insult others beliefs. Science says that a man cannot be born all by himself, so can we suspect the origins of Jesus?. Will Mu Ka talk about those?. DMK has taken Periyar's idealogy to an extreme that even Periyar himself would not understand the end of it other than vote bank politics. Now what reply does the DMK have for their own cadres who killed more than two SUN TV crew for a stupid opinion poll, and now for ransacking the house of a BJP leader and the party office. Can he eats back his own words about the Ram bhaktas attitude. Its a shame that the hindus in TN are toothless and cowards, so they allow this guy to insult everything Hindu in the name of anti-brahminism. Doesnt it surprise anyone that they who believe in Valluvar will take oath by Aryan - Dravidian theory which was put forth by a foriegner not even an Indian. They would believe anyone who is alien to the culture but not one who is part of the culture.
RE:RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by jai ram on Sep 23, 2007 10:03 PM Permalink
Questioning the so called gods's existence is the foundation of atheism. No disrespect, you are within your right to worship whoever you want - be it a wife banisher, womanizer, peadophile, etc. At the same time, some beliefs in the name of religion are not practical and should find no outlet in modern society. Like killing non-believers or claiming vast areas of land and water as religious landmarks even when they are not being worshipped! BTW why stop only with the bridge, why not preserve the entire path that "fella" trekked from Ayodhya and back?
RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by dinesh kumar on Sep 23, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
who abused rama. valmiki ramayana was quoted. the cm asked for a debate.
RE:Ram Worship - A Fringe Tamil Culture
by MGR Fan on Sep 23, 2007 09:51 PM Permalink
None of Tamil Kings were atheists. So Atheism is not the culture of TamilNadu.
As for ram, we had kamba ramayana and eri kaatha ramar. Ram is part of Tamil culture, like ayyavazhi, ayyappan, christianity (that came thru Portuguese) and Islam. TN culture is not DMK atheism but composite culture
this is what i tell double standards,when someone says something bad about your religion you get to issue FATWA to behead somone,and the same time when muslims object to insult to our prophet you just enjoy the events.
RE:regarding the beheading of dmk chief
by Lucky B on Sep 23, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
Insulting and making fun of of someone's belief make that person a terrorist. You are wrong when you say that everybody enjoyed prophet's insult.
