RE:Hinduism is FICTION
by G2 on Sep 18, 2007 09:32 PM Permalink
it means that you dont have balls. Oh I forgot they had been cut in your childhood...whats that ceremony called ..help me I dont know the name of that ceremony in which you cut comething downthere???
RE:Hinduism is FICTION
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
You stupid muslim defend your God.... our faith teaches us GOD defends all.....
RE:Hinduism is FICTION
by Jitesh Kumar Agrawal on Sep 18, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Come out of madarassa teachings or muslims in India will go into history books
RE:Hinduism is FICTION
by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 18, 2007 10:42 PM Permalink
No proof for Hinduism - Accepted.
Proof for Islamism: i) Bombing ii) raping iii) Looting iv) Smuggling v) Cheating vi) Killing and the list goes on. Now every one knows ISLAM exists!!!!
DURING COLD WAR, THE RUSSIAN COMMUNIST PART WAS LIKE A GHOST ENTITY. EVERY BODY AFRAID TO SPEAK OR VENTURE ON OTHERTHAN WHAT BREZHNEV OR IN CHINA MAOTSE TUNG LIKE. THEY KEEP MUM. CLAP WHEN THE GREAT LEADER SPEAK. IF THERE IS ANY PROBLEM, IT IS FOR THIS GREAT LEADER AND HER CRISTIAN CRONIES TO DECIDE AND ALL THE SPINELESS HINDU LEADERS SAY, WAH WAH, SONIAJI KI KYA BAT HAI. THEY ARE READY TO BLAST RAMAYAN AND MAHABHARAT OR ANY HINDU ELIMENTS...JUST CLING TO POWER, LICK THE SHOES OF SONIAJI,OSCARJI..HIHIHI...HO JAYEGA MEDAM AAP KA KAAM, NO PROBLEM OSCAR SAR !
RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
YOUR WRITE UP SHOWS YOU ARE STUPID IGNORANT MUSLIMS....EVEN DON'T HAVE A GUTS TO WRITE YOUR OWN NAME........Balaord....you just feel happy... that Quran will lead all muslims towards progress.... quran will teach muslims.... (1) Right way of killing i.e Hallal (2) Insulting womens by marrying own sisters (3) Advise not to read and believe any science (4) Live like mad person cutting mostache and keeping beard.......blah,blah,blah...Yes I too wish the current crisis of Muslims will soon be over by thier own willing and don't blame / push your ignorance or stupidity as God Willing
RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by Peace on Sep 18, 2007 09:48 PM Permalink
Hello Shilpa
Where are the facts ? I can come uo with Thousands of question that you would have no answer
What is sati ? What is the caste system ? Why people get married to Idol But these question lead no where. Come to healthy discussion otherwise you just come as bigotted extremist read about islam www.whyislam.org www.irf.net Please do sincere research before making wild accusations.
RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by rashmi sahu on Sep 19, 2007 11:25 AM Permalink
Dear Peace the God talked in vedas as fornless omnicient.Same God in Islam is called as Allah.Interesting to point you out that Allah itself is a sanskrit word which means in sanskrit Goddess dURGA.Further Imama is a sanskrit word which means to see, in islam it means priest of a masjid.Further read this article in the light of latest archaeological findings in middle east the vedic past of Iran, at www.archaeologyonline.net.Further the entire verse of kena upanishad is contained in Quran i will quote examples: One Koranic verse is an exact translation of a stanza in the Yajurveda. This was pointed out by the great research scholar Pandit Satavlekar of Pardi in one of his articles. [Note: Another scholar points out that the following teaching from the Koran is exactly similar to the teaching of the Kena Upanishad (1.7). The Koran: "Sight perceives Him not. But He perceives men's sights; for He is the knower of secrets , the Aware." Kena Upanishad: "That which cannot be seen by the eye but through which the eye itself sees, know That to be Brahman (God) and not what people worship here (in the manifested world)." A simplified meaning of both the above verses reads: God is one and that He is beyond man's sensory experience.] The identity of Unani and Ayurvedic systems shows that Unani is just the Arabic term for the Ayurvedic system of healing taught to them and administered in Arabia when Arabia formed part of the Indian empire. friends do not fight for God
RE:RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by rashmi sahu on Sep 19, 2007 11:31 AM Permalink
Sati Pratha in india came after islamic invasions.We all including ancestors were following vedas>But Arab invaders used to abduct beaytiful women and justify Jihad on the name of Islam so to protect that Women in India stated covering Face.The first historic account of sati pratha is after islamic invasion, to save themselves for getting raped and humiliated those valiant ladies at that time to die instead of catching alive.People made it a pratha.It was an act of self protection.In the light of vedas this pratha is inhuman.Do read history prior to advent of Islam and after that.When adi shankara took birth at that time women were not veiled they were educated. adi shakara had a long debate in sanskrit with a wife of Brahmin scholar.all these are written histories.
RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:18 PM Permalink
IS my name a issue?This simply shows you are empty headed and dont have any facts to argue
or May be you know better tha Keith devlin about History and Mathematics Have u seen the views of HP CEO , a link from HP site itself You are a empty headed moron and your only knowledge is hearsay or the vernacular daily's article on Muslims and Islam
RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:32 PM Permalink
YOUR WRITE UP SHOWS YOU ARE STUPID IGNORANT MUSLIMS....EVEN DON'T HAVE A GUTS TO WRITE YOUR OWN NAME........Balaord....you just feel happy... that Quran will lead all muslims towards progress.... quran will teach muslims.... (1) Right way of killing i.e Hallal (2) Insulting womens by marrying own sisters (3) Advise not to read and believe any science (4) Live like mad person cutting mostache and keeping beard.......blah,blah,blah...Yes I too wish the current crisis of Muslims will soon be over by thier own willing and don't blame / push your ignorance or stupidity as God Willing
RE:RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by Sidd Iyer on Sep 18, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
The JEWS follow the same you ignorant Pagan.. - Kosher Meat = Halal meat - Jews marry cousins as well - Jews keep a beard and cut moustache..
RE:RE:RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:34 PM Permalink
That is Jews are killing muslims... they are also mad and insane people ... first they killed jesus... and muslims... if jews get hungry they eat their own hand... brainless like muslims.......
RE:RE:SONAI POLITBEAURO.
by Sidd Iyer on Sep 18, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
Forget about others.. show your own balls.. Where is your GOD? Whats the truth in your religion.
Christianity and Islam have shown real gutts in arguing with us.. Can you show your balls. Some primitive pagan.
This is a link directly taken from Helect Packard Its ex CEO who was once rated as the most powerful women on earth told Business leaders, f there is a model civilizzation it is the Islamic Civilization which lasted for 800 centuries see her views http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/speeches/fiorina/minnesota01.html
see the last paragraph, The morons here in rediff should get a lesson from her
RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by SAUDISLAVETOUSA on Sep 18, 2007 09:22 PM Permalink
This is a link directly taken from ROBERT SPENCER is an American writer on Islam. He is the author of six books, including two bestsellers, on topics related to Islam and terrorism in Islamic un-Civilization which lasted for 8 centuries see his views www.jihadwatch.com see the last paragraph, The morons in mosques should get a lesson from him
RE:RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
Robert Spence is not a scientist , not a historian , not a ceo , not known for any of his academic calibre he is a novelist Robert Spencer's opnly qualification is Hate. He is just like you, learning and spending his life hating Islam.thats it. it is a pity you dont have any mainstream scholors to refer to
RE:RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
he is not a scientist , not a historian , not a ceo , not known for any of his academic calibre he is a novelist Robert Spencer's opnly qualification is Hate.
RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by SAUDISLAVETOUSA on Sep 18, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
THEN WAHT ABOUT THIS LONG BEARD FOOL Michigan State University Professor asks Muslim students to leave U.S.
RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
Feel happy what ex ceo said...and ignore the fact... you fat mind muslim... see your face on mirror no moustache only beard... look so dirty and uneducated........
RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by beessmilla on Sep 19, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
great joke in the human history. islam is a science.Ask prophet mohd who had sex with a baby saying allah reavealed to do it. all reveallitions are false things.
RE:RE:Hewlect Packard Ex CEO's view On Islam
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
here is a excerpt from the President of Mathematical Asociation of American Keith Devlin. He is also the executive director of Standford school of ligustics, he is also a popular author of great many Math books.(MAA has many noble laureates) so he is a not just "some" one.He is an authority in math and its history
He is saying ALL SCIENTIS ARE CHILDREN OF ISLAM !!!.
Either this man knows mathematics and history , or the hate mongers in this blog knows mathematical history better than him.Note this link is directly from that organization's website
By the way, he is still tyhe president of MAA since he said ths 6 years ago.
RE:contribution of islam
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:14 PM Permalink
What else a Empty head will reply. I have given the views of the president of Amecian Mathemcatical Association on Islam who cares your view? what is your knowldge on History of science see another link from Hewlect packard Ex CEO
RE:contribution of islam
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:27 PM Permalink
Balaord.... why don't you open your eye and see how dirty you muslims made this earth... only killing... nothing else... and praise quoran for killing...
RE:Any Issue remotely connected to Muslism is a celebratin to rediff hate mongers
by SAUDISLAVETOUSA on Sep 18, 2007 09:25 PM Permalink
FROM BABAORD
WHY REDIFF,WHY
YOU LET PEOPLE TO CRITISIZE RAPE,MURDER AND LOOTINGS.WHAT HAPPENED TO THE GOLDEN ERA WHERE MUSLIMS DO ALL F**KING THINGS AND NO ONE IS TO ASK THEM ANY QUESTIONS.
RE:THIS NORMAL.........
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
How much history you know? Quran is hampering Muslim's progress? This simply shows you are empty headed and ignorant
An artcile written by Keith devlin, who is the current executive director of standford mathematical society(which has lots of nobel laureates) and a popular author of great many research books says "Islam kickstarted science" in Guardian newspaper of UK http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
unsurprisingly the "scholors" of rediff hold a different view..
Argue with facts!!Just because you guys were brainwashed about Islam, you cant deny histroy. Read the link and then argue.. http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
The current crisis of Muslims will sonn be over God Willing
RE:RE:THIS NORMAL.........
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:10 PM Permalink
Balaord....you just feel happy... that Quran will lead all muslims towards progress.... quran will teach muslims.... (1) Right way of killing i.e Hallal (2) Insulting womens by marrying own sisters (3) Advise not to read and believe any science (4) Live like mad person cutting mostache and keeping beard.......blah,blah,blah...Yes I too wish the current crisis of Muslims will soon be over by thier own willing and don't blame / push your ignorance or stupidity as God Willing
the day majority muslims are able to condemn the bad elements in their society, will be the beginning of their rise.
i am neither a hindu nor a muslim, but have lived in a muslim majority area and have seen that any moderate voice that even slightly differs from conventional beliefs (and i do not mean their religious basics) of a muslim society is severely suppressed.
i do not know what may be able to change it, but, i have seen dissent very much difficult to express among muslims by muslims.
i also do not mean that hindus are progressive, but at least you can see people challenging the conventional beliefs if they are not logical.
the stranglehold of conventional stupidity is still there, but, hindu society has moved ahead after independence, but muslim society has not been able to keep pace.
RE:Openness is the answer
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:08 PM Permalink
How much history you know? Quran is hampering Muslim's progress? This simply shows you are empty headed and ignorant
An artcile written by Keith devlin, who is the current executive director of standford mathematical society(which has lots of nobel laureates) and a popular author of great many research books says "Islam kickstarted science" in Guardian newspaper of UK http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
unsurprisingly the "scholors" of rediff hold a different view..
Argue with facts!!Just because you guys were brainwashed about Islam, you cant deny histroy. Read the link and then argue.. http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
RE:Openness is the answer
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:13 PM Permalink
Balaord....you just feel happy... that Quran will lead all muslims towards progress.... quran will teach muslims.... (1) Right way of killing i.e Hallal (2) Insulting womens by marrying own sisters (3) Advise not to read and believe any science (4) Live like mad person cutting mostache and keeping beard.......blah,blah,blah...Yes I too wish the current crisis of Muslims will soon be over by thier own willing and don't blame / push your ignorance or stupidity as God Willing
RE:RE:Openness is the answer
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:16 PM Permalink
May be you know better tha Keith devlin about History and Mathematics Have u seen the views of HP CEO , a link from HP site itself You are a empty headed moron and your only knowledge is hearsay or the vernacular daily's article on Muslims and Islam.
RE:Openness is the answer
by Tough on Sep 18, 2007 09:21 PM Permalink
Hello Balaord,
U mean U know history well and claim there wasn't science before 1400 yrs when a Bedaoin cult started in deserts of Arabia?
How many Noble laureates Entire Muslim Ummah could produce yet??? and in science???? Matter is not how much Holy Quran is good , matter is how good are brethern are? who constitute 1/5 th of world population?
Dear, Do you approve that some blood thirsty terrorists are asking to either convert to islam or get killed???? Is this rational to claim that what you think is right and others belief have no value?????
Dear if we close eyes, doesn't mean world is dark??
RE:Openness is the answer
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:32 PM Permalink
Nobel prize is here only for the last hundred years Muslsim world is in crisis for the last 100 hundreds , direct result of western colonoisation. Do you think, Muslims are idiots but managed to rule Spain for 1000 years, India for 800 years and so on? If we are idots,then what about the subjects they ruled? see another link about islamic spain in History channel
RE:Openness is the answer
by Tough on Sep 18, 2007 09:50 PM Permalink
Perhaps u dint heard about Nalanda & Taxila???
U dint read what Fahyan & Huensaang wrote about Vedic culture? U could not read "arthshashtra" written by 'Chamnakya' some 2300 yrs back??/
U could not read How vedic culture spread all around killing none, healing all!! Go to fareast still U'll find vedic Heroes! Ohhh U have been barred to read anything else other than a Holy book?
Bytheway U dont know how many Indians(hindus) got Noble prizes, its 13...go n check!!!
RE:RE:Openness is the answer
by Tough on Sep 18, 2007 09:54 PM Permalink
Balaord, You want me to tell you how many Indian scientists engineers working in NASA, IBM, Microsoft n so on.........!!! ( Now you tell me is it because they read Holy Quran??? No, none of them them this...they read modern science and later on found Gita is worth reading too...but never cried like you do....!!
RE:RE:RE:Openness is the answer
by Tough on Sep 18, 2007 09:26 PM Permalink
this world has become A LESSER safe place for all of us. ya ya I agree America is one reason. But think rationally is america alone responsible?
a guy of 14-15 yrs becoming suicide bomber!!!! My God!!!! Isn't it ideologocal failure??
India is a secular country but Muslims want AMU to be the preserve of Muslim Communal politics. What ails AMU is nothing different from What ails Muslim Society, Muslim Countries and Muslim youth in general. It is intolerance, intolerance and intolerance. Ultimately, it will mean stinking decay of AMU
RE:Non-secular character in a secular India is illegal.
by Charanjeet Singh on Sep 18, 2007 09:07 PM Permalink
Yeah we should ban banaras hindu university and aligarh muslim university and all schools/colleges/university which have a religion's name..
RE:RE:Non-secular character in a secular India is illegal.
by noel on Sep 18, 2007 09:39 PM Permalink
and dont forget your own guru nanak dev universities mushrooming all over India
RE:Non-secular character in a secular India is illegal.
by Kaushik Basu on Sep 19, 2007 11:07 AM Permalink
WOW !!! This is INDIA...Hindu vs Muslim, North Indians vs South Indians, Upper castes vs Lower castes...and we dream we will become a super power....wow !!!!
Why are all the comment so anti-muslim? In India muslims have been systematically oppressed. Evidence only 2 % muslim in Govt jobs. Only 4% muslims in Corporate sector. How can muslim join mainstream with such statistics? End the hate and promote education for minorities. End Extremism both Hindu and muslim and end to fake muslim appeasement. Muslims need real solution not RSS/ VHP bashing of muslims.
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Jitesh Kumar Agrawal on Sep 18, 2007 08:41 PM Permalink
Go to schools and colleges and study in a competitive environment...stop living life with reservations.....the mindset has to change(which take for sure will never happen) and things will change.
Till this people dont stop all the violence and anti india and anti muslim activities RSS/ VHP or any other will always bash this people and they are just vote banks for the political parties
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Ahmed Patankar on Sep 18, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
Mr.Invisible let me just clarify a few things...u thank allah that ur a minority in India and not any Islamic state like pakistan where the minorities are treated like shit! we should be thankful to the Almighty that we are in a secular country like India. It is also noteworthy that reservations are not a solution for upliftment at all. It should rather be merit than religion which should be basis for jobs or education. the problem with our religion is that we preach a lot of things which are not practical and blame others for opressing us. Why should somebody opress us if we are strong willed ourselves? Points to ponder and please stop blaming hindus christians or jews for the position that we find ourselves at this point of time.
RE:RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Peace on Sep 18, 2007 10:04 PM Permalink
Mr. Patankar
I agree with you that life in Pakistan is like shit. No Indian muslim would like to move to Pakistan. India does not exclusively belongs to Hindus.Now the real problem does exist about the discrimination muslim face in police, in hospital, at work. I agree with Jitesh reservation is not the solution and would love to see when hindu reservation are abolished.
India has to find some real solution and initiate a dialogue with the minorities so that they can be part of New india. Sowing seeds to hatred would not do any good to anyone. Islam is not against science. Please read the book Quran and Science by Dr. Maurice Bucaille.
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Deva Pratap Saathivayal on Sep 18, 2007 09:03 PM Permalink
It am getting console by seeing ppl like Ahamed & Mubarak for realizing the real issus.
RE:RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Ajay Chaudhary on Sep 18, 2007 09:02 PM Permalink
salute to you man.. thats the kind of progressive thinking that is need of today.. from all communities.. look inside and we shall all find the answers..
RE:RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by ChalapathiRao Mudigonda on Sep 18, 2007 09:06 PM Permalink
All kudos to Ahmed. If atleast few people are as enlightened as ahmed what more is required to country?We wish that Muslim friends shall emulate Ahmed and think wise.God bless Ahmed and the like!
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Satyanarayana Maddi on Sep 18, 2007 08:38 PM Permalink
These statisics indicate they are incompetent and so do not get jobs.
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 08:58 PM Permalink
Poor Muslims, once the ruling rule for 800 years was now condemned as incompetent!!!.
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Peace on Sep 18, 2007 09:57 PM Permalink
Mr Satyanaryana
I don't even need to put any statistics. I was told by the manager of Mahindra and Mahindra to leave this country and seek job somewhere outside. My family has been living in India since past hundred of years. My sister home was burned down 3 times in Gujrat What is all this incompetence? This is sheer hatred that you guys have against minority. Have you ever experieced how muslims are treated in police station, Hospitals and other places. Please have strenghth to face the truth or I would just discount your comment as some mulsim hater
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Vasanth Srinivas on Sep 19, 2007 12:09 AM Permalink
Do you forget what you guys did it in Kashmir....? You are talking about your home. What about the 4 million homeless people....?
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
The day muslims begin to give values and respect to modern eduction in madrasa instead of only Kooran as mother of all science... automatically their life will change... they will get all good jobs.... muslims bigger enemy is they themselves........
RE:RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by balaord on Sep 18, 2007 09:00 PM Permalink
How much history you know? Quran is hampering Muslim's progress? This simply shows you are empty headed and ignorant
An artcile written by Keith devlin, who is the current executive director of standford mathematical society(which has lots of nobel laureates) and a popular author of great many research books says "Islam kickstarted science" in Guardian newspaper of UK http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
unsurprisingly the "scholors" of rediff hold a different view..
Argue with facts!!Just because you guys were brainwashed about Islam, you cant deny histroy. Read the link and then argue.. http://education.guardian.co.uk/higher/sciences/story/0,12243,786006,00.html
RE:RE:RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Tough on Sep 18, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
Hello Balaord,
U mean U know history well and claim there wasn't science before 1400 yrs when a Bedaoin cult started in deserts of Arabia?
How many Noble laureates Entire Muslim Ummah could produce yet??? and in science???? Matter is not how much Holy Quran is good , matter is how good are brethern are? who constitute 1/5 th of world population?
Dear, Do you approve that some blood thirsty terrorists are asking to either convert to islam or get killed???? Is this rational to claim that what you think is right and others belief have no value?????
Dear if we close eyes, doesn't mean world is dark??
this world has become A LESSER safe place for all of us. ya ya I agree America is one reason. But think rationally is america alone responsible?
a guy of 14-15 yrs becoming suicide bomber!!!! My God!!!! Isn't it ideologocal failure??
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by shilpa rao on Sep 18, 2007 09:11 PM Permalink
Balaord....you just feel happy... that Quran will lead all muslims towards progress.... quran will teach muslims.... (1) Right way of killing i.e Hallal (2) Insulting womens by marrying own sisters (3) Advise not to read and believe any science (4) Live like mad person cutting mostache and keeping beard.......blah,blah,blah...Yes I too wish the current crisis of Muslims will soon be over by thier own willing and don't blame / push your ignorance or stupidity as God Willing
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by sri on Sep 18, 2007 09:24 PM Permalink
Yes sir, Thats an interesting point to bring up. We all are seeing the scientific progress made by countries where science oops islam originated.
We are also witnessing so many scientists being produced by MIT (Madarasa Institute of Technology) who keep reciting the same old book which is nothing but mother of all sciences.
We must have been fools all these years that we didn't take it seriously. At least now we should all wake up and urge the government to make quran as mandatory for all those who would like to study science.
Hmmmm... I am sure UPA would love this idea (Guess, another brain wave coming out of Sonia / Ambika / Arjun / left ( ofcourse they too dont want to be left behind)
RE:shameful anti-muslim comments
by Mubarak on Sep 18, 2007 08:44 PM Permalink
One has to ponder over fate of NON-MUSLIMS in Muslim countries. In comparison, Muslims in India are leading princely lives. Free to create terror, do ethnic cleansing in Kashmir, encroach upon Hindu properties and destroy temples. Serve Allah to the hilt by destroying composite of Kashmir. Big Hallah in the ame of Allah. Though Allah or God must be secular.