LEFT HAS NO UNDERSTANDING OF INTERNATIONAL POLITICS. THEY ARE FISHES IN A POND, NOT IN THE SEA. INDIA HAS TO SEE IT'S OWN INTEREST AND ALLY WITH THE WINNERS. I AM SURE THAT MANMOHAN SINGH UNDERSTANDS THE ERCONOMICS MORE THAN THE LEFT. WE SHOULD TRUST HIM. WE HOPE TO ELIMINATE THE NUSANCE VALUE OF LEFT IN THE NEXT ELECTION.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by ItsMe on Sep 19, 2007 04:05 PM Permalink
but we are not signing the hyde, we are signing the 123. nothing is irreversible. india can walk out anytime it wants and there are other suppliers.... this is a hump that needs to be crossed, that's it.
RE:RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by narayan halder on Sep 19, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
But the short title of Hye Act is SEC. 101. SHORT TITLE. This title may be cited as the %u2018%u2018Henry J. Hyde United States-India Peaceful Atomic Energy Cooperation Act of 2006%u2019%u2019. A description of the steps that India is taking to work with the United States for the conclusion of a multilateral treaty banning the production of fissile material for nuclear weapons, including a description of the steps that the United States has taken and will take to encourage India to identify and declare a date by which India would be willing to stop production of fissile material for nuclear weapons unilaterally or pursuant to a multilateral moratorium or treaty.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by Janam on Sep 19, 2007 04:36 PM Permalink
Iran is a country that signed an agreement (NOT) and now going against it, If we look at that perspective our vote goes down well against Iran. Compare this with our agreements , even after so many wars and loss of life we still continue to honor Indus water sharing treaty with Pakistan.
Even if US walks out we would still have strategic reserves that would help running the reactors, as a worst possible case we may have to return the reactors at current market prices. Which is fair.
Even after Testing a nuke, US is not going to terminate the agreement right away, it is still going to examine under what circumstances it has done so (The tests), and then only any action would be taken.
Well I think it is in our interest to go ahead with the agreement rather than get sidelined. This may also act as a precursor for us getting sensitive space and military technology.
With sensitive space, military and nuclear technology only Pakistan and China should be worried, Communists have joined these two to destroy India from within.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by Harsha K on Sep 19, 2007 04:38 PM Permalink
You mean to say India had to vote for Iran, and support _another_ islamic country, that never supported us in any of our troubles in international fora, to become a nuclear weapon state?
If only guys remove their heads from sand they'll see that India and US are on the same side of the table, at this point in time.
RE:RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by raj on Sep 19, 2007 07:11 PM Permalink
very simple. Iran threatened Isreal saying they want to wipe that country from the face of the earth. When its leader talk like that what US is suppose to do. They are NATO allies. When did India threatended any country in this fashion? Iran(good old Perscia) want to dominate that region. And intimidate Gulf nations. We all know Percian history.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by lion king on Sep 19, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
The contention that we are selling our sovereignity to the US is a load of crap !!!
Let the US walk out whenever they want to...! Remember, that the US is not the main supplier of Uranium.. and there is nothing in the agreement to say that we should not stock some Uranium for use. Atleast till that time we can have the right to import Uranium and generate some power. In any event, our need for Uranium is till the time our reactors using Thorium are not ready. After that we are free to use th fuel of our choice.. and would certainly go in for locally available Thorium. The intervening period .. say the next 10-15 years... is crucial for our development. The left obviously recognises this, and wants to see that we fail in comparison with their gods.. the Chinese.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by raj on Sep 19, 2007 07:05 PM Permalink
What a lousy idea you are preaching. In that case all countries who are close to the US are stupid? You are a Commie. It is very clear from your article.
RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by MOHAN PYARE on Sep 19, 2007 04:54 PM Permalink
What is wrong in the three clauses b,c & d listed above? Do you want to support proliferation like Mr.Abdul Quadir Khan did?
RE:RE:LEFT REJECTING 123 NUCLEAR DEAL WITH USA
by raj on Sep 19, 2007 07:15 PM Permalink
by , You must be the smartest man. If you know the detail why dont you mediate and slove the problem. GO FLY A KITE. YOU ARE A DAMN COMMIE and ANTI-INDIAN .
In this particular case, Congress should not surrender to CPI. Let the CPI go to hell. They are a bunch of anti-nationals. At this crucial juncture, if BJP is really a people's party, they should join hands to Congress and implement the Indo-US Nuclear program.
RE:N-deal: Left rejects
by ramachandran nair on Sep 19, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
Well said, I too agree with you in toto. Incidentally this deal was initiated by Mr ABV, the then PM of our nation (courtesy BJP). So instead of making a hue and cry in the parliament against the deal, they should now come to main stream and support the government, in case they really care for India and her people. Swim along with tides rather than against. Support a good cause for the betterment of we people
RE:RE:N-deal: Left rejects
by Chaitanya on Sep 19, 2007 05:48 PM Permalink
BJP is not people's party, it is the party of the Bania for the Bania and by the Bania.It will always see the interest of Banias and Traders and not salaried people.
RE:N-deal: Left rejects
by raj on Sep 19, 2007 07:21 PM Permalink
Chaitanya , Your Communist party is for the poor? Thats why in Bengal Mother Thresa's people doing a great job. YOUR PARTY IS THERE TO EXPLOIT THE POOR. POOR IS YOUR FERTILIZER. AND YOU ALWAYS KEEP THEM IN POVERTY. AT LEAST BJP IS NATIONLIST UNLIKE YOUR PARTY WHICH LICKS THE FEET OF CHINA.
RE:N-deal: Left rejects
by RAJMOHAN NAIR on Sep 19, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Common friends; let us demonstrate our support to the Govt. for a noble cause.
RE:N-deal: Left rejects
by VIJAYAKUMAR SR on Sep 19, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
I totally agree with this view. The Left is a bunch of stone-headed leaders who do not want this Country to progress lest their vote bank shrinks. Their talking point is always poverty as it is a virtue. What did they do in West Bengal for the last 15 years. Going by their (lip) sympathy and concern for the poor, the LEFT should have eradicated poverty and illiteracy. What have they done?. Now they want to destroy the Country. Let the people show them the door- the earlier the better for all.
Som Nath Chatterjee must be repenting becoming Lok Sabha Speaker as Prakash Karat, Bradhan, Gurudas Dasgupta, Sitaram Yechuri and the like will enjoy Chinese hospitality for opposing N-deal. Budhadeb will get a kick on his back for voicing his views about the need of N-tech for the country.
I fail to understand why chinese hospitality. Left should have negotiated with US, they would offer a better deal to them for their personal gain than China anytime. So, its still not too late the honourable memebrs of Left parties, go and strike a deal with US to support the N-deal.
RE:RE:N-deal
by Chaitanya on Sep 19, 2007 05:52 PM Permalink
If BJP comes to power, I doubt very much, it will sell all profitable PSUs at a throwaway prices and snatch lacs of jobs from the educated people in the name of VRS and will put maximum tax on salaried people. This was the experience of 5 years of NDA Rule.
RE:RE:RE:N-deal
by Chaitanya on Sep 19, 2007 05:56 PM Permalink
Beware of BJP, it has only one agenda, to sell profitable PSUs and snatch lacs of jobs from educated people. I think no sensable educated service class people should this party again in the name of Hinduvata.
These commies dont know what tey want---if they have the guts let them withdraw support, pray for a majority(next to impossible) and then dictate to the nation--otherwise with a mandate of less than 5% of the electorate they should keep their mouths shut.
RE:Left rejects govt response
by PKS Sarin on Sep 19, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
No , Nishant Indian left do not know what they really want except queering the pitch of Congress. Because of their warped vision and anachronistic ideology they blunder during working hours and repent during leisure. they are singularly incapable of learning lessons from history.
RE:Left rejects govt response
by mark antony on Sep 19, 2007 03:49 PM Permalink
if not nuclear energy then from what, are you planning to generate energy in future? from SH#T? coz that what we will have plenty when petrouleum deposits die
RE:Left rejects govt response
by Sugata Ray on Sep 19, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
With all the optimistic plans fulfilled, by 2020 India is going to get maximum 9% of its power from the nuclear energy. Moreover, the cost of per unit electricity will be substantially higher than what the common Indian pay (or can hardly pay) today. So, 123 deal is not the solution of our power problem as is being projected. Nuclear power is most likely to be the most effective source but only in distant future. Indian scientists (people from DAE for example) claim that India itself can take care of it and instead of investing so much money for the nuclear trade with US (US is the seller and profit making body in this case), it is much more justified to invest money for mining. In fact, India has slowly started this process e.g. invested nearly 4000 cr. for mining mainly in Jharkhand. So, again 123 deal is not really for power problem. It is purely for political alliance. The clear pressure from US on India to materialize it before Bush goes or to go against Iran in IAEA or making Hyde law say what this political alliance going to mean for us. Either we do not follow these simple reasoning or knowledge or we just want to align with the US, "the FATHERLAND", having the nastiest international records in the world. We must be proud of oursleves, isn't it?
RE:Left rejects govt response
by bahmophet on Sep 19, 2007 05:36 PM Permalink
at leastr their nastiness is matched by the one by the former SOVIET UNION IN AFGANISTHAN, CZECKHOSLOVAKIA, HUNGARY, EAST GERMANY, .....
RE:Left rejects govt response
by kapil on Sep 19, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
George sir...for that only a US co have technology...you and your left party agree that? Recently that US co. agreed to help us? But it is a private co...Who will invest in such a situation...you pay or your family pay????
RE:Left rejects govt response
by reji varghese on Sep 19, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
then why are our nuclear plants running at less than 50% capacity and our nuclear energy constitutes only 2% of our energy generation. My dear sir these things 25% of world thorium are all good on paper look at ground realities and act/ talk accordingly. These people are all opposing what is the alternative they are putting forward. Prakash karat is telling wait for 6 months then what whether he will bring new nuclear technology and solve India's energy needs
RE:Left rejects govt response
by ashesh halder on Sep 19, 2007 03:41 PM Permalink
I think you are ignoring the main problem. That is United States have no base camp in south East Asia. In South East Asia India is in a very important position. So 123 deal is a clear indication of their mentality.
RE:Left rejects govt response
by Lion King on Sep 19, 2007 03:46 PM Permalink
Do'nt talk nonsense. This is fine for your so called learned W. B. people.
