these incidents will leave very poor image about the institutioin and companies will rethink while recruting the stuidents paased out of such instition and even may not turn towards such universities for campus recruitments.Penlaties an offenders should be very severe to avoid such incidents in future-venkateswara reddy
RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Masud Baig on Sep 17, 2007 12:41 PM Permalink
Brother before pointing fingures at some community because of some few people is not a work of any intelligent individuals. World has also witnessed insanity by LTTE group , these group are hindu group. If i am not wrong these are hindu terrorist organization, I think you must have also heard about NAXAL , on that case i have never seen your post calling to throw all NAXALS out of this country. Brother it is some individuals and not entire community.
RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 12:58 PM Permalink
NAXALS are something very political and LTTE also has a cause but what cause muslims has for masterminding an act like 9/11, bombay blast, hydrabad blast, delhi blast, blast in Iraq killing their own brothers. Just see you were able to name just two and without even thinking much, i names several. If i try and recall, then you will find an endless list to it. I agree these acts are done by some individuals and no entire community but then this is the responsibility of the entire community to correct them and see that these guys should not get any help from the community. The day this very thing will happen, you will find no one is there to blame your community.
RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Sensor on Sep 17, 2007 01:26 PM Permalink
LTTE or Naxals do not talk about GOD after or before killing. People know what Islamic terrorists do when they kill people
RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Masud Baig on Sep 17, 2007 12:30 PM Permalink
Brother Raj , If you think running an institution in name of religion should be stopped. then you will have to first close down all the institutions running by RSS , VHP. These guys are clearing spearding communal hatred brother. We muslims are peace loving and we always want to leave in peace with everyone. We love our religion and we are proud to be an indian muslim
RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 01:30 PM Permalink
See you fanatic muslim, America has lost its twin towers killing all innocent peoples from almost all over the world and you are feeling proud about it. Cant you see the revenge america took from you guys in afganistan and iraq killing millions of muslims. ooh but yes, you guys get multiply like any virus so you do not care of getting millions of muslims getting killed across the world.
RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Sensor on Sep 17, 2007 01:22 PM Permalink
What is happeningn i Iraq, Who is killing who ? Bush is not killing you muslimes, muslims are killing muslims, all Bush need to do is to give each group a lot of weapons so that they can kill more efficiently.
RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
Dear Baig, Islam the ruler is touching feet of US. (I wanted to use a very good word but i know using that someone will get a reason to report this message as abuse)So what say you regarding this thing.
RE:RE:RE:RE:hindus in muslim university
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 01:12 PM Permalink
Dear Baig, Islam the ruler is touching feet of US. (I wanted to use a very good word but i know using that someone will get a reason to report this message as abuse)So what say you regarding this thing.
Probably the Hindu students have create all these problems.
Do not worry Shagufta Khan - our PM Madmohan oops Manmohan Singh, and the Super Prime Minister will not let down the muslim community. They will do all within their means to get to the bottom of the issue.
All injured / killed / damages will be suitably compensated and some of the students will be issued Bravery Certificates, Bharat Awards, etc. They may also issue an Ordinance that will debar all Hindus from Minority institutions. Another Ordinance will be issued reserving seats for Muslims and Christians in Hindu institutions.
RE:this is not aligarh ... this is taliban
by Riya Rao on Sep 17, 2007 12:15 PM Permalink
The meaning of talib is some one who needs. Taliban means student who seek knowledge. Every body is taliban in one way or another. So please do not misunderstand the word. As far as vadalism at AMU it is very unfortunate but this is the case every where even in USA where tens of students are killed in case of firing what to say about indian universities where such drama takes place every now and then.Even at your IITs where bright students die of ragging, and other pressures. Donot blame the one university especillay using religion. If you have courage please visit aligarh live here and then make your final judgement. MASROOR
RE:RE:this is not aligarh ... this is taliban
by K Jana on Sep 17, 2007 12:50 PM Permalink
The problem is not about somebody getting killed by some maniac OR internal gang war (I'm not sure which one it is in AMU case), but the reaction of the fellow students. Did the US student go on rampage after one of them got killed? Did it happen in any IITs. I don't remeber reading anything like it...
RE:RE:RE:this is not aligarh ... this is taliban
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 01:33 PM Permalink
Dear Jana, IITs get all educated stuff. I request you not to compare IITs with a Madarsa
RE:AMU STUDENTS
by mohit sharma on Sep 17, 2007 12:00 PM Permalink
AMU - Aligarh Muslim University was supposed to be premier educational institution, when conceptualized!!!
Nowadays, perhaps what u said decribes it the best!!!
Unfortunately all these incidents go on to damage the name of the institution. I personally feel that no college should permit elections as they go on to damage the name of the college.
RE:What is the VC 's fault?
by abhijeet singh on Sep 17, 2007 12:07 PM Permalink
if you stop politics in college, how great leaders like lalu, mulayam and mayawati would be born.
RE:What is the VC 's fault?
by RAJA DURAI on Sep 17, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
i think you didnt understand that he was joking when he said they are great leaders
RE:What is the VC 's fault?
by Raashid Baig on Sep 17, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
I am 2007 pass out from IIT Bombay and I want to correct you - "IITs do have elections and all levels(Hostel, Institute and Department)". But whats different is that very few students contest and vote in these elections, bocoz most of the time they are burdened with never ending assignments and quizzes.
I find it amazing that the media has been able to ascertain without doubt that all the perpetrators of the said act were AMU students. If this is the case it would be doing AMU a favor by passing this info to police to bring the guilty to justice. I am an AMU alumunus, doubtless, anti social elements found an opportunity in this tragic incident to harm the AMU and bring a bad name to it.Several incidents in the past where AMU students were similarly maligned are on record. It would do a lot of good to the media to first accurately establish the facts before making such definative statements. Was a reperesentative of the media present at the scene of the crime and did he check the I cards of the students ???????
RE:Find the truth
by The Bombay Boy on Sep 17, 2007 12:20 PM Permalink
Don`t deviate from the topic and turn its flow. peoples like you spread hatred in the society. You non sense don`t know a single teaching of any religion.
RE:Find the truth
by prasanna pai on Sep 17, 2007 12:14 PM Permalink
Mr.Atif how innocent ....why is it so that u never want to accept truth..You do not want to accept that mecca , malegaon ,Hyderabad , Banglore probe..Come out of dream and face reality...
RE:Find the truth
by sanjeev shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 01:06 PM Permalink
Atif I have also stayed in Aligarh,and whatever happens in campus the first target is the VC's house or his car.
There shd be a proper CBI proof whether terrorist are involved in such incidents.I think it is a terrorist act and some students are assoctated with Terrorist to disturb our education system.proper inquiry shd be there .
There was no logic in setting the VCs house on fire. Tomorrow, if the investigation brings out that another student was involved in the killing, will the AMU students then set fire to that fellow' house. In Hyderabad, Muslim politicians ask why their religion is targetted and accused of instigating voilence. The answer is there in this AMU incident. When the bombs went off in Mecca Masjid, youngsters from inside the mosque threw stones and brickbats at policemen. This resulted in a police firing in which three young men lost their lives. Recently, when the bombs went off in Lumbini Park and Gokul Chat, at Hyderabad there was no violence in the aftermath. That shows how restrained the Hindu community is. And often that is taken for granted.
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by atif siddiqui on Sep 17, 2007 11:56 AM Permalink
The campus isn't suffuciently secured. Lumpen elements from outside the campus have free access to the univ grounds, The author of the message has easily assumed all the arsonists to be AMU students and has graduated to blaming the entire community for it. For his information, AMU has many students from the majority community as well as other minorities. Last but not the least , AMU students' union has no political affiliation, hence outsiders attempt to create such incidents, so that they may get an opportunity to show false symapathy and get the student political orhanizations affiliated to various political parties a foothold in AMU
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by Zinisys Zinisys on Sep 17, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
BOSS, In Indore some Gundas of GREAT HINDU Religion MURDERED a PROFESSOR (Sabharwal) , what u gonna say for this ??? RSS , BAJRANG DAL, VHP, ABVP . group of Ass Holes
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by PAL on Sep 17, 2007 01:48 PM Permalink
He died due to heart attach. However, we are discussing about political goondas (MIM).
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by ASIF KHAN on Sep 17, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
buddy let me tell u that aMU has 51% non muslim students. u bloody these incidents r initiated by wrong doers not any muslim or hindu
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by Vikas Arora on Sep 17, 2007 01:39 PM Permalink
So what you said can be clearly seen as 40% Muslims and 51% non muslims. That means majority muslims only.
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by Mohandas Gandhi on Sep 17, 2007 12:01 PM Permalink
Pls know the facts before you speak. In gokul chat where most people were killed nearly half were muslim.
Further, the police blocked the main gates and that was the problem for the public reaction. Has anybody from the media tried to check the details.
the lowere strata of the muslim society has been denied proper education and they are used by the politicians in the name of religion. This type of problems can be solved if we provide better education facilities to all sections of the society whether minority or majority.
RE:Why do Muslim students react so violently
by Arvind Singh on Sep 17, 2007 12:56 PM Permalink
First provide proper education to politicians, they need it. A farmer knows how to grow crop, its the white collars of India who like Jamindars are not giving due cost for the grains they produce. The sit in AC offices and think they are contributing to economy- a economy defined by west (whites) and everybody in world is following them, at least in developed countries people pay higher price for cereals, pulses, fruits and vegetables in developing countries though they have fat salary, they are not prepared to pay a 50 paisa more for a Kg of vegetable to road side vendor, who are most often farmers whose land size have decreased. One must reject such a nation which has bais towards office goers, ant the food growers are committing suicide. India has failed to govern its people, its rather ruling and ruling is getting worser day by day, India is not bothered about masses. See the office goes they have purchased unprcedented properties in cities to make the property price escalate, the brokers have snatched land from poor farmers in the surrouning areas for peanuts...so on
