Why is those atheists among you who hate god and ram, run those ram and siva temples?
Temples are under control of Govt of DMK . Why?
Why dont you give up the control of temples to those who believe in the gods? Just like Church and Mosque,relieve them from Govt control. That is, if you are really honest and really believe ram story is wrong. You live your way, I live mine, but please dont run my temples. You can have your own temples worshipping something else (maybe Richard Dawkins) and i dont come in your way
RE:QUESTION FOR DON, SANJAY - STILL WAITING..
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
Thats because Hindus (Indians In general) are used to the idea of relying on the government for everything. Same is the problem with my Muslim brothers. Why do we expect consessions in Haj fare ? How is it the RESPONSIBILITY of the government. Haj is our responsibility. In fact I would go to the extend of saying that it is highly questionable (If NOT haram) to accept this consession from the government.
RE:QUESTION FOR DON, SANJAY - STILL WAITING..
by h c on Sep 15, 2007 08:28 PM Permalink
We hindus should now put a sign boards on all hindus temple writing SONIA GANDHI AND CONGRESS MANS ARE NOT ALLOWED please boycout all these hypocrites from our religious temples as they are diving this country and let us not happen this again and show the hindus power. please spread the massage and stop CONGRESS PEOSONS from entering our religious places.
RE:RE:RE:QUESTION FOR DON, SANJAY - STILL WAITING..
by on Sep 15, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
h c, first learn proper english and then placde those sign boards at the temples. LOL.
RE:QUESTION FOR DON, SANJAY - STILL WAITING..
by on Sep 15, 2007 08:30 PM Permalink
imran patel I have seen your hindu mother dancing on the roads, what do you say about that ?
YOU KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DEAD BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE???
BABRI MASJID IS DESTROYED & PEOPLE DIED, IN GUJRAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED, ALL ACROSS INDIA PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED, JUST BECAUSE OF THIS MYTHICAL LOOKING GOD ISSUE.
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by CG NAIR on Sep 15, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
high king, the most henious crime in recent history was committed by West Pakistan in East Pakistan (now Bengladesh) during 1971. Nearly three million civilians were butchered by the West Pakistan's armed forces at that time, in part of their own country created based on common belief (Islam).
RE:RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by jalsaaj on Sep 16, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
beware u guys!!!! Stapal Singh here is not a Sikh , he a Muslim in Sikh disguise.
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by on Sep 15, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
CG NAIR, Why are all the hindu gods deformed ? none of the hindu gods are normal. Nobody looks like human. Why ? I ask you Why ?
See you hindus dont have an answer to my simple questions. still you practise that stupid religion.
Wahe Guru da Khalsa, Wahe Guru da Fatah ! -Satpal Singh
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by CG NAIR on Sep 15, 2007 08:49 PM Permalink
Mr. Stapal Singh, The Guru Granth Saheb is a mixture of good teachings of all religions. Don't try to denegrate the great gurus by insulting our native culture, if you are realli a Sikh. The Gurus's had in fact formed the Khalsa for protecting our indigenous culture and population from the invading forces and you all are a part of the same.
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by jalsaaj on Sep 16, 2007 12:15 AM Permalink
beware u guys!!!! Stapal Singh here is not a Sikh , he a Muslim in Sikh disguise.
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by Mahesh on Sep 15, 2007 08:18 PM Permalink
Go tell that to Christians who are out to convert every non-Christian to Christianity.
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
on the sake of its identity?? On the sake of its moral values?? oN the sake of ONE of its religion which is practised by thousnads of year On the sake of religion which is OLDEST in world??
RE:INDIANS SHOULD GROW!!!
by MGR Fan on Sep 15, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
You left the hundreds who died in the name of Anti Hindi agitation sponsored by DMK
RE:What abt.Mohammed & Jesus etc.
by MGR Fan on Sep 15, 2007 08:09 PM Permalink
People like you only make the job of controlling Hindu rightist difficult...
What makes you think that your own scriptures could be authentic proof? Carbon dating? Any photo/video evidence? Rememeber that written text evidence can always be tampered. Nothing is certain even with Semetic religions. Stop posturing superior over here; you will only help the cause of atheists, who are the real enemies of all religions.
RE:What abt.Mohammed & Jesus etc.
by CG NAIR on Sep 15, 2007 08:21 PM Permalink
Mr.Nadeem khan, what are the "evidence and authentic proof' in Islam and Christianity? the story of virgin birth? Earth is flat? The Old Testament and The Koran are revealed through a broker (Gabriel) to two mentally deranged persons?????????????????? Do you want more scientific evidences????????????????????
RE:What abt.Mohammed & Jesus etc.
by guru hebbar on Sep 15, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
Please read kuran, it has only messanger, Islam is found by coying other religions and manipulating, It is a backward religion. Hinduism is oldest and best
Why is those atheists among you who hate god and ram, run those ram and siva temples?
Temples are under control of Govt of DMK . Why?
Why dont you give up the control of temples to those who believe in the gods? Just like Church and Mosque,relieve them from Govt control. That is, if you are really honest and really believe ram story is wrong. You live your way, I live mine, but please dont run my temples. You can have your own temples worshipping something else (maybe Richard Dawkins) and i dont come in your way
The article from Govt. of india organisation dated march 2007:http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/002364.html Scientific evidences point to human activity in ancient times on both sides of Ram Sethu (the narrow sea between India and Sri Lanka) as found by Dept. of Earth Sciences and ocean technologists of Bharatam. The Geological logging of the bore holes drilled in Ram Sethu reveals very interesting details. In almost of all the boreholes between 4.5 and 7.5m the borehole intersected hard formations, which have been found to be calcareous sand stones and corals. The Corals normally grow atop compact to hard formations for the purpose of stability, and as the sea level rises, the Coral colony grows up vertically to maintain water depth of 1 to 2 m, which is essential for their survival. In the case of Ram Sethu area, we observe that the Coral formations hardly occur 1 to 2.5m in length and resting on loose marine sands. Most of these coral rock pieces are seem to be rounded pebbles of corals. These things appear to point these coral rock pieces and pebbles have been transported and placed in these areas. Since the calcareous sand stones and Corals are less dense than normal hard rock and quite compact, probably these were used by the ancients to form a connecting link to Sri Lanka, on the higher elevations of the Ram Sethu ridge and this is analogous to modern day causeway. ..indicates human habitation extending to late Pleistocene (11,000 BCE) based on bone of human.
RE:this author is
by Rajesh D Mishra on Sep 15, 2007 08:02 PM Permalink
LETS FIND OUT WHETHER THERE IS SOMETHING CALLED ALLAH AND HOW QRAN CAME FROM HEAVEN TO EARTH. WHETHER IT CAME FROM SOME OTHER PLANET AND CARRIED BY ALIEN. LOL PLSSSS WE NEED SCIENTIFIC PRROF FOR THIS ALSO
RE:this author is
by Truth Seeker on Sep 15, 2007 07:49 PM Permalink
How about digging under Babri Masjid to check if there are any Dinosaur bones?? I am sure you don't like it. Next let's dig under your home, if you have one.
RE:this author is
by MGR Fan on Sep 15, 2007 07:58 PM Permalink
Satya, if that is the case, why is DMK govt having hindu temples under its controls?
Agree that relgion is personal issue. But why govt should run my temple. I believe rama, you dont, fine. I go and worship my temple, what right you and your godless govt has in that? First remove temples from Govt control and free them to be governed by real believers of god. Let us then agree that govt and religion can be seperated for ever.
RE:this author is
by gazza subra on Sep 15, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
Everything can not be seen in terms of economic value. You will be considered inhuman if you sell of your pet dog for money.
If any action hurts the belief of one person then it can be private, but if any action hurts those of millions (sans people like you) I guess it is public.
Neither ASI is the beach-head of scientific frontier nor all that happens can be scientifically explained (or not yet scientifically explained) with human race's collective scientific knowledge.
Hindu sentiments apart if "Ram Sethu" is a natural formation then it has to be preserved, like coral reefs, marine life etc.
So whichever way you look at it - sentimentally or rationally - it does not make sense to remove "Ram-Sethu".
It is good to be opinionated but it is not your pre-rogative to judge millions of Hindu beliefs.
It is well known that without any preapproval of Italian lady no information get published. When the issue was brought up she acted well as though she stepped in to withdraw the affidavit.I don't understand why media hails her for stepping in to the issue since she knows this infomation well before government files affidavit in the court
RE:RE:Planned Drama
by guru hebbar on Sep 15, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
bible is tribal, No god, only messanger, he gets killed in the end, god cannot protect himslef, grow up you moron
RE:Planned Drama
by guru hebbar on Sep 15, 2007 08:31 PM Permalink
bible is tribal, No god, only messanger, he gets killed in the end, god cannot protect himslef, grow up you moron
RE:RE:RE:Planned Drama
by guru hebbar on Sep 15, 2007 08:32 PM Permalink
bible is tribal, No god, only messanger, he gets killed in the end, god cannot protect himslef, grow up you moron
RE:Planned Drama
by CG NAIR on Sep 15, 2007 08:29 PM Permalink
Mr.SANJAY, there is no other book in the world which contains more s.e.x stories than the Bible!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RE:Planned Drama
by SANJAY on Sep 15, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
But the logic is why a God requires a Bridge to save his wife and Ravan did not required. Hanuman carried whole mountain was he not able to take Ram straight to Ravan.
RE:Planned Drama
by gazza subra on Sep 15, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
You are amazing. With this kind of scientific bent of mind, I guess you should be sent to moon and work to settle humans there.
RE:Planned Drama
by Sumedh Wale on Sep 15, 2007 08:27 PM Permalink
@SANJAY: So my estimation of you as trying to create some nuisance value and lacking integrity is correct after all. This has been answered below -- take it or leave it, and since you have no real value to add it would be better for you to re-think your aim in posting on this forum. Funny part is such comments from mouth of one who thinks that God died for our sins, and plans to keep on bleeding Him for his own sins.
RE:Planned Drama
by Rajesh D Mishra on Sep 15, 2007 08:06 PM Permalink
You are a big Stupid Hanuman would have carried Ram to Lanka and wht about army. Ravan was not a kid ke use jake bola wapas kar aur usne kar diya. I think u r a muslim so i cant expect intelligence. Since Mohammad is considered equal to god why did he died due to poisoning by his wife.
Everything that is formed in nature is created by God and in this case it is Lord Ram. So, the argument of natural formation has no meaning. If your instruments or techniques have not scaled to find such truths, it does not mean all others have to believe what you say is truth. This land is Ram's and anything associated with him is unquestionable. If somebody wants to question they just need to ask themselves one question Who is Ram and he will then find the answers.
Next to BJP: Advani and BJP are just oppurtunists and they really are hopeless in protecting Hindus. Else who can explain that the party aligning with DMK (who are part of the gang garlanded Lord Ram with ....) and now talking about apology, blasphamous etc...Are these guys real?
looks like it is important for Muslims also as According to Muslim legend, Adam crossed there to Adam's Peak, Ceylon, atop which he stood repentant on one foot for 1,000 years
I think we should leave it to our Muslim friends to sort it out with the govt. They will be given more attention being MINORITIES....
RE:RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by Rajesh D Mishra on Sep 15, 2007 08:13 PM Permalink
Yes I agree with u Ram was not God that also Proves Mohamamd was a terrorist he was a not a prophet he looted killed, converted people, do you accept this if you accept everything related to Ram is a blahblah then you accept Mohammad was a Terrorist
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by VASUDEVAN VM on Sep 15, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
No god will save India, where thakerays and advanis are living, who had killed thousand of innocents people in the name of religion. All the nonsense on minorities are not applicable for majorities (Hindus), these shamless demons still continuing their nasty work.
RE:RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by VASUDEVAN VM on Sep 15, 2007 08:39 PM Permalink
No god will save India, where thakerays and advanis are living, who had killed thousand of innocents people in the name of religion. All the nonsense on minorities are not applicable for majorities (Hindus), these shamless demons still continuing their nasty work.
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by VSR on Sep 15, 2007 07:42 PM Permalink
Sanjay (your name looks like Hindu, but nowadays fake guys are more in Rediff), unfotunately people like you talk things only to question religion or characters. The issue here is whether Ram Sethu is natural formation or man made. Few stupid ASI guys went ahead, beyond their powers, questioned the existance of Rama which was not warranted. They have presented the affidavit pretty badly that central government immediatly withdrwan as it will not stand in the court of law. The arguement should be know the status of bridge rather than Rama was exisiting or not. Rama's existance is a belief transformed over generations and every hindu from birth till end consider this name as sacred. It is a faith or belief and need not proven to anyone with a birth certificate.
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by Sumedh Wale on Sep 15, 2007 07:48 PM Permalink
@Sanjay, you are quite a character. The reply to this was already posted but rather than continuing on that you repost:
No, Ram did not require a bridge to cross over (or even Hanuman for that matter) rather the various devatas who had come as vanaras wanted to serve Him. Never mind, these things are beyond your understanding who thinks that God must be bled to pay for *our* sins. Ram did not kill brother of Hanuman (who would be Bhimasena). Ram killed Bali, the brother of Sugriva and there are multiple reasons for that (e.g. usurping the kingdom, expelling Sugriva and usurping his wife).
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by SANJAY on Sep 15, 2007 07:51 PM Permalink
Because various devtas wanted to serve him poor Sita had to face all the consequences. What stupidity
RE:RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by Sumedh Wale on Sep 15, 2007 08:01 PM Permalink
No, unlike christian philosophy where God has to bleed for our sins, Devi Sita had no business here. In fact, the one normal jivas thought of as Devi Sita in Ravana's captivity was not Her who is the support of all the universes. As such since you have no idea of any of this and all your "knowledge" is based on heresay, it makes little sense for you to argue about this.
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by SANJAY on Sep 15, 2007 07:44 PM Permalink
Why dont we employ some from Europe and Usa and find out was it really made by man or natural
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by SANJAY on Sep 15, 2007 07:47 PM Permalink
But the logic is why a God requires a Bridge to save his wife and Ravan did not required. Hanuman carried whole mountain was he not able to take Ram straight to Ravan.
RE:RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by Sumedh Wale on Sep 15, 2007 07:55 PM Permalink
@Sanjay, i believe you better not talk of logic. Do you really think that God has any business here and was trying to "save" Sita?
Anyway, Hanuman was ready to bring Shri Ram to Sita when he brought the message of Shri Ram to Devi Sita. This was refused by Devi Sita since She wanted Shri Ram to finish the lila to demonstrate the ideal behaviour to the mankind.
RE:RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by Sumedh Wale on Sep 15, 2007 08:11 PM Permalink
@DON you said: "The ONLY reason why SITA refused was she was really really really njoyin her stay with RAVANA" And this is known to you how? Or you think that posting your imaginations is somehow funny?
RE:Muslims take this up as its ur fight too...
by VASUDEVAN VM on Sep 15, 2007 08:35 PM Permalink
Whether it is man made or natural, since it is reqired for our country for transport as well as for defence, there is nothing wrong to demolish the ram sethu, which is under sea and can not be seen to any body unless go to sea.
So many things are including temples and masjids are being demolished for widening road or for some other constructions, this is also for road constructions, but in the sea.
