In fact, as a fellow Westerner and European (and Latin, as Italy and France share the same linguistic roots), everytime I pass her fortress of 10, Janpath, I am shamed by the fact that she lives there like an empress of medieval times, brazenly surrounded by hundreds of security guards and sycophants fawning around her, while at the same time innocent Hindus in the valley of Kashmir are still being butchered without anyone giving a damn. I don't understand how she cannot see it herself.
Secondly and most important, you cannot comprehend India unless you practice, at least in some measure, its spirituality. For the greatness of India, whatever the foreign correspondents or the Indologists say, is its dharma, the timeless Vedic spirituality, which has given the world hatha yoga, meditation, Pranayama, Ayurveda and the concept of the Avatar which allows for religious tolerance. And you don't have to be some highhanded guru or yogi meditating in his cave.
No, the most humble villager in India practices spontaneously this spirituality. He is born with it, it is in his genes. He accepts innately that God may be Krishna, or Jesus, or Buddha, or even Mohammad, who said right things for his epoch, but whose words were never adapted to modern times.
Whereas the Delhiwallah thinks he is tolerant and secular because he accepts the fact that Sonia Gandhi, an Italian, and a Chri
RE:White christian imperialism in India continues
by KKA on Sep 15, 2007 09:31 PM Permalink
Contd :Whereas the Delhiwallah thinks he is tolerant and secular because he accepts the fact that Sonia Gandhi, an Italian, and a Christian can become the prime minister of his country where they are 850
millions Hindus, one of the most tolerant, spiritualised, brilliant people in the world today. But by this he only shows that he still has a colonised mentality and that Macaulay did good work. And you don't even have to be a Hindu: most of India's minorities, had, once upon a time, soaked a little bit of that tolerant and all inclusive outlook, so that a Syrian Christian would live in harmony with his Brahmin brother, or a Sufi saint would quote from the Gita. But then, the Portuguese Jesuits and the Mughals descended upon India with the sword in one hand and the Cross and the Koran in the other.
Muslims are driven by hatred towards all the non beleivers.
Where ever they live they live as seperatists.
In India they are against hindus, hindu culture.
Recently muslims opposed a high coart decision on Gita as National Dharma Grantha.
There is no comparison for Taiban and RSS.
RSS is a natioanlist organisation striving for unity of Hindus and preserving the tradition and culture of Bharath. There is nothing destructive in this organisation.
Taliban exactly reflects the mindset of ISLAM killing and destructing any thing that is not islam.
Yes we need to be constructive. Muslims renamed Bhaga nagar as to Hyderabad.
Karnavathi to Ahmedabad.
prayag to ALLAHA bad.
Sambhajinagar to Aurangabad
indraprastha to Delhi
3/4 of punjab to Pakistan
Erasing the old name culture and replacing and renamic is typical of semetic/desert religions like Islam and Christianity.
RE:@imran
by amit jain on Sep 15, 2007 11:20 PM Permalink
ram is mythological but 55 year old prophet mo's screw.. of 6 year old aisha is historically proven. look at posters in jamia millia university in delhi, they are full of praise of kashmiri terrorists. in debates, they say that kashmir shud go to pakistan. somebody shud destroy this university.
RE:@imran
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 09:46 PM Permalink
There is no "motherLand" . It is my birthplace. What do you see on your birth certificate or ur passport ? Is there a place called "Mother Land" or "Place of Birth"...
U need to go back to school dude...and not some "ASHRAM"...I decent school.
RE:@imran
by on Sep 16, 2007 02:09 AM Permalink
Do you really believe that RSS and BJP do not support any form of destructive behaviour? It is a well known fact that both these groups along with the taliban have terroristic tendancies to attack people not of their own faith. Obviously, muslims will say that their religion is a peaceful religion. Hinduism has historically been a peaceful religion but now they too are becoming militant with so called "nationalist organizations" like RSS leading people to fight other religions.
Master stroke happens when one converts defeat into a victory. But when you fake a defeat and claim to have converted that to victory, then you are called a zany!!
One of the most important differences between a human and an animal is the ability to reason. Why don't you guys use it?
It is possible that Shri Ram must have been a great king and he must have built that bridge between islands. Leave aside all the stories of miracles and think, if there is such a chance, then we must save it at all costs. Preservation of history is one of the most important things. Once something is lost, you can never bring it back. Save everything that has historical importance.
As for people believing in Jesus being the son of a virgin, I think it is outrageous. Faith is a dangerous thing. Faith is the root cause of almost all the political problems in the current world. Faith makes you a prisoner, reason sets you free. Choose your path!!
It is no secret that in India that is not Bharat, it is deemed secular to put down Hindu religion and deride its beliefs. And this secularism gets even more shine if the other faiths are indulged simultaneously. Three recent events come as telling pointers to the fact that this twin-track secularism is not just official state policy but has also been perfected as a political ploy.
and why the f&*k the converts get spiced up at the wrong place at the mere mention?BTW i am HHH and the f&*ing moderator has blocked my id so i created a new one. I have been asked why save hinduism and i say thats what i want whether it happens or not...So Imram why so called "idolatory" tickles your brown behind?
RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 15, 2007 09:28 PM Permalink
Hi HHH, nice to see you again. I faced similar problems with my ID being blocked and all that. Anyway, will follow the posts, and maybe post something when I have something to say. Later then. Bye.
RE:RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by Save Hinduism on Sep 15, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
Hey Sarath, Just tryig to undertsand perpectives. Not trying to hurt anyone but guarding my religion too.
RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 09:29 PM Permalink
So if Hinduism is GODS religion...Leave it to god...He will protect it. Are you saying that you are stronger than and more capable than your god.
I am a MUSLIM and will never say "SAVE ISLAM". That is for ALLAH. It is his message. My job is to follow it.
RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by Save Hinduism on Sep 15, 2007 09:32 PM Permalink
Yes i was shivering in my to my chest trousers before your kind assurance...Thanks..i would change it to save islam as that is definately required...Now coming back what is idolatory and how do you perceive it?
RE:RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by Save Hinduism on Sep 15, 2007 09:34 PM Permalink
Why is muslim in caps...it doesn't make you anymore muslim then what you are or you are just trying to assure yourself? I never say SAVE HINDUISM.it cannot be saved anymore than what it can be.I hate caps.
RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by KKA on Sep 15, 2007 09:34 PM Permalink
Talk about being insecure. It is muslims who fo onrioting anf killing rampage when they fear Islam is in danger. Remember the Danish cartoons, when muslims rioted, killed hindus and burnt Indian property?
RE:So a perfect discussion is what is idolatory
by amit jain on Sep 15, 2007 11:22 PM Permalink
ram is mythological but 55 year old prophet mo's screw.. of 6 year old aisha is historically proven.
RE:Exact Closeup satellite view of Ram Setu :
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 09:30 PM Permalink
What is ur point. There are several of these in the world at different stages of erosion.
KPS Gill : India's opportunistic political secularists - as distinct from those who are, in fact and practice, actually wedded to the secular ideology - feel that they cannot sufficiently proclaim their secularism without displaying at least a measure of contempt for Hindu beliefs and practices.
I feel people discuss without any real intentions of making theier point many time in this discussion board. This will not serving any purpose. I feel it is better stoped by the rediff. Otherwise people involving such discussions shold be banned from discussion board (it may be difficult). but can be tried by different methods.
RE:BJP supporter now
by amit jain on Sep 15, 2007 11:24 PM Permalink
ram is mythological but 55 year old prophet mo's screw.. of 6 year old aisha is historically proven. to save india vote for muslim league and banatwala. this guy does not know a word of malayalam but wins in kerala, but then momeens see only momeens.
RE:RE:BJP supporter now
by excelwin on Sep 15, 2007 09:20 PM Permalink
Sure. Since you guys like to take boti, BJP will soon be back to give it to you every Friday!
