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by prakash shetty on Sep 16, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
THE DMK AND CONGRESS IS PLAYING WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF HINDUS.DONT UNDERESTIMATE THE TOLERANCE/PATIENCE OF HINDUS.IT MAY COST HUGE TO YOU PEOPLE IF ANYTHING GO WORSE DUE TO YOUR FOOLISH PLAY.BECAUSE OF THIS SACRED INDIAN SOIL YOU PEOPLE(DMK/CONGRESS AND ALL ANTI HINDUS AND ANTI -INDIANS LIVING INSIDE INDIA)LIVING NOW HAPPILY ,FREELY WITHOUT ANY FEAR BUT FORGETTING GRATITUDE FOR THIS.IF YOU HATE INDIA AND INDIAN CULTURE , TRADITION OK.YOU HATE AND YOU DONT DO ANYTHING GOOD FOR INDIA BUT DONT DO ANYTHING BAD TO INDIAN FOUNDATION.ATLEAST SHOW THIS MUCH GRATITUDE FOR THE BREAD YOU ARE EATING FROM INDIAN SOIL AND FOR THE SHELTER AND FREEDOM GIVEN TO YOU TO DO ALL THIS IDIOTIC THINGS .YOU DONT KNOW WHAT THE BLUNDER YOU ARE DOING NOW.YOU PEOPLE DIGGING YOUR OWN PIT.YOU PEOPLE NOT PLANNING FOR OUR FUTURE GENERATION.IF YOU DO LIKE THIS HOW THE FUTURE GENERATION WILL FOLLOW.ACT RESPONSIBLY.YOU PEOPLE ARE GREEDY AND EXPLOITING INDIA UNTIL YOU DIE AND DONATING THE RESULTS TO YOUR GENERATION.WAH..YOUR BIRTH IS WORTH IN INDIA. "VINAASHAKAALE VIPAREETHA BUDDHI " MEANS THEIR MADNESS IS THE SIGN OF THEIR END.IF ANYTHING WORSE HAPPENS DUE TO THIS RAMSETHU ISSUE BOTH THE DMK (TAMILNADU GOVT)AND CONGRESS(CENTRAL GOVT)ONLY RESPONSIBLE .DESHDHROHI PEOPLES...BE CAREFULL......
Fraud scientist takes RSS for a ride down Lord Ram%u2019s bridge
Shishir Gupta
Posted online: Sunday, June 17, 2007 at 0000 hrs IST
NEW DELHI, JUNE 16
The %u201Cspace scientist%u201D who, for two years, helped the Rashtriya Swayamsewak Sangh (RSS) formulate its opposition to the Sethusamudram project has turned out to be just like the Sangh%u2019s argument %u2014 a fraud.
The RSS said today that it would %u201Cremove%u201D him as pracharak after an investigation by The Sunday Express showed that Puneesh Taneja, who is said to have access right up to Sarsanghchalak K S Sudershan, allegedly forged his credentials.
He passed himself off as %u201CDr%u201D Puneesh Taneja and flaunted visiting cards and stationery identifying himself as %u201CSenior Research Scientist/Additional Secretary, Department of Space, Prime Minister%u2019s Office, South Block, New Delhi.%u201D
These cards, obtained by The Sunday Express, are embossed with the logo of the Indian Space Research Organisation.
Sources said Taneja told the RSS that he was on a two-year leave from the Government and that he was with ISRO. There are red faces in the saffron brotherhood because many within the RSS were taken in by these cards and even saw Taneja as a %u201Clinkman%u201D between the RSS and the UPA Government.
So much so that he was made a fulltime pracharak in 2005 and began operating from an RSS flat in Noida.
RE:Latest News...
by imran patel on Sep 16, 2007 03:24 PM Permalink
CISRO has no relation with this man. We have not heard of him at all. The Additional Secretary, Department of Space, is an IAS officer. He is S V Ranganath, he sits in Bangalore. Also, the Sethusamudram project has no connection with ISRO,%u201D ISRO director for information S Krishnamurthy told The Sunday Express in Bangalore.
The Sunday Express met Taneja at his residence and asked him why he was impersonating as a PMO officer. Taneja denied he had anything to do with the PMO but claimed there was a %u201Cthreat to his life%u201D as he was %u201Cdoing research%u201D on the Sethusamudram project.
%u201CEverybody has a mission in life, Sethusamudram is my mission,%u201D he said. %u201CI moved into this flat days ago and have sought protection from RSS leader Ram Madhav. The only time I have come out in the public is when I addressed the media with Ashok Singhal on Sethusamudram.%u201D Taneja admitted he was not a scientist adding, however, that he was %u201Cresearching%u201D the canal project. When asked about his academic credentials, he said he didn%u2019t want to comment.
RE:RE:Latest News...
by imran patel on Sep 16, 2007 03:24 PM Permalink
For, last month, Taneja even held a press conference in the capital with VHP chief Ashok Singhal who slammed the Government on the project. Defying all scientific evidence, the VHP and RSS officially urged the UPA Government to re-route the project claiming it would destroy the %u201CRama Sethu%u201D built by Lord Ram to Lanka to rescue Sita. The Sangh even threatened to launch an agitation against the Centre in case the canal%u2019s route.
For, last month, Taneja even held a press conference in the capital with VHP chief Ashok Singhal who slammed the Government on the project. Defying all scientific evidence, the VHP and RSS officially urged the UPA Government to re-route the project claiming it would destroy the %u201CRama Sethu%u201D built by Lord Ram to Lanka to rescue Sita. The Sangh even threatened to launch an agitation against the Centre in case the canal%u2019s route isn%u2019t changed.
When contacted today, RSS spokesperson Ram Madhav admitted that Taneja was an RSS pracharak. When asked about the alleged forgery, Madhav said: %u201CWe have received some complaints about some of the activities of Mr Taneja outside the RSS. The RSS leadership feels these complaints have enough substance to warrant his immediate removal as pracharak.%u201D
RE:RE:RE:Latest News...
by imran patel on Sep 16, 2007 03:25 PM Permalink
The project
%u2022 Dredging a 167-km channel across the Palk Strait, between India and Sri Lanka, so that ships, travelling between east and west, get direct passage through Indian waters rather than circumnavigating Lanka. Cuts sailing time by 30 hrs.
The fake scientist
%u2022 The RSS and VHP want the ship channel project to be rerouted to protect the coral structures they claim is the sethu built by Lord Ram to get to Sri Lanka and rescue Sita. They want it to be recognised as a World Heritage site.
The science
%u2022 Geological Survey of India study found that the Sethu isn%u2019t manmade but a result of sedimentation of clay, sandstone and limestone. NASA calls it a tomobolo, a bar of sand connecting one
We Indians have been neglectful of our history, of our heritage and should set this right by studying the ancient languages Sanskrit, Pali, Tamil etc; and researching our past. We simply read books written by Englishmen, Germans and just any westerner who has no idea of our culture and has interpreted our past as per his knowledge of HIS world. It is our fault. Today we are letting a western woman do the same thing together with a Sikh prime minister. We have allowed the arrest of one of those learned and holy men who lead a Hindu organisation that could spend funds and time upon researching our past as well, we have Indian companies and organisations that give money abroad for causes that are not ours, for small show of charity, but we do not demand they spend their money to better our society here in India. We ourselves are indifferent to educating our children in history, spirituality. There are Muslim schools teaching Koran, Christian missionaries and church orgs teaching bible classes, but Hinduism is not taught or discussed in India! It is churned out to create political chaos and divide the populations for political profit regardless of the damage it does to the people. Unless we Indians learn about our culture and help it grow, we will be forever ignorant and at the mercy of men who confidently rule us from outside putting in print any old rubbish that becomes the truth and is accepted as such even by we who know better.
RE:REPLY TO ASHOK LEYLUND
by ashok leyland on Sep 16, 2007 03:07 PM Permalink
Well Don, nice to know you have survived all these years after being the comtemporary of both Ram and Krishna and knowing their sexual preferences and habits!
It is obvious that you are upset about the facts set out regarding the bible. Well it's all there and there being a civilised standard version you will have no problem looking it up. There you will find stories of loose women (nice to know that women were always blamed and men got off scotfree from time immemorial), old men who fornicated with young slaves (Abraham had a son by his young slave and then another with Sarah). However your knowledge of Hindusim, the Ramayana and Mahabharata is as non-existent as your knowledge of the bible or of Christianity. Write facts not fanciful stories. Belittling another person's faith does not make yours any superior, on the contrary, looks like you are afraid that your faith is not as strong as you thought.
JB is evidently does not know the definition of religion as being different from politics. Politics manipulates and speculates using people their beliefs, their customs and most specifically their ignorance to achieve what the politicians want: power and wealth. No religion declared people untouchable, no religion advocates wives burning on their husbands%u2019 pyre, no religion denies education or equality or is responsible for inciting violence as such. Does the bible not encourage an "eye for an eye"? Isn't that inciting violence? Education was once available to priests and popes in the past.How casteist is Catholicism? The pope states that unless you are Catholic you cannot go to heaven! That you are damned! What about the millions who lived before in pre-Christian times? The fact is Christianity is not European religion but like every other faith, comes from the East! Yet the European church lays down law. You are mistaking politics with religion. Denying education, caste discrimination are social not religious phenomena. In the bible there are cases of incest, adultery and worship of idols. The use of the cross with or without Jesus crucified on it, is just an object to concentrate on. The various divinities in Hindu philosophy are just that: the representation of the various forces and aspects of God that have been fractioned to permit a better understanding amongst the ignorant masses. We still use this system, we are still comfortable with this symbolism, just like
RE:Reply to JB - your errors
by ashok leyland on Sep 16, 2007 02:52 PM Permalink
continued from above:
If we still chose to use this system, it means we are still comfortable with this symbolism, just like Christians still use various versions of the cross, or Muslims still visit the Kaaba in Mecca.
RE:Reply to JB - your errors
by JB on Sep 17, 2007 12:59 AM Permalink
You did not reply to any of my questions, but instead started talking about something unrelated to those questions. You attemted to justify one wrong with another wrong. "If pope would do it why cant we?". I'll answer your question anyway, even though you were not willing to answer mine.
I believe your knowledge of Christianity is very limited. When Christianity moved from East to Europe, the Europeans manipulated Christianity and created Catholicism to atract the pagans. Catholocism is different from Christianity. And yes, the pope & catholic church hijacked the Bible & introduced their own rules & controlled all the poeple incluing the kings. The Bible was not open to all. That period in time was called the "Dark Ages". Since you are comparing that with the situation in India (or with Hinduism), it just leads one to believe that Hindus are in the "Dark Ages".
I'm not mixing politics with religion. Discrimination is inherent in Hinduism. Why did Rama slain poor Sambuka who are only offering prayers to reach the gods? Because he was born a Sudra. I guess you need to know more also about Hinduism
RE:answer these, dnt report abuse A S S H O L E DRAMAEBAAZ HINDUS
by Ramnath Krishnamoorthy on Sep 16, 2007 03:54 PM Permalink
Answers: 1. Rama lived in the Treta Yuga, more than 1,700,000 years ago
2. Hanuman was Vanara (monkey or ape), Garuda was a bird with white neck (close to eagle). Jambuvan was a bear.
3. Well, it is scientifically proven that man evolved from apes. There was a time when the monkeys could talk (during transformation to man). If parrots and mynas could talk today, why could'nt monkeys talk 1,700,000 years ago.
4. Will have to check Valmiki Ramayana which is the original text.
5. Well it is possible for humans even today to perform such acts. You need to be a yogi for that. Both Rama and Sita were great souls so fire would not burn them.
6. Rama certainly died. Rama was an avtar of Vishnu. But by birth, life and death he was like an ordinary man, but immensely virtuous and righteous.
Please read the ramayana and enjoy it. You certainly have a right to question it. But if you read it you wont ask questions like these. You will be uplifted to a different level of evolution and will be thinking of higher things. May Lord Rama Bless You.
RE:answer these, dnt report abuse A S S H O L E DRAMAEBAAZ HINDUS
by elumalai namboodri on Sep 16, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
Ram as affectionate to animals and birds 17 millions of year ago. You people followed untouchability for the last 30 centuries. Hence the religion of Rama can not be yours. First search inwhich corner it is,
