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Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by on Sep 16, 2007 06:42 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

The Congress government is a threat to the majority community, and the sooner they are removed from power, the better.
Every second channel airs Christian evangelist programmes aimed at impressionable and troubled minds. Channels like God TV talk of the coming end of the world and the return of Jesus Christ to judge humanity. They also talk of the 'evil' secular culture and secular TV programmes in countries like the UK , the USA, and other Western countries, and also talk openly of changing governments which are opposed to Christian evangelism. They also unabashedly ask for money from people all over the world to meet the costs of running the 'God TV' channel and spreading the message of Christ (read conversion) across the globe. Millions of gullible Indians send 10s of 1000s of hard earned rupees to them, which they gleefully advertise.
All this while, the government turns a blind eye to them, and talk about maintaining
'secularism', communal harmony and the like. In addition, they announce reservations for Muslims and Christians to further establish their 'secular' credentials. Destroying a bridge or two, which has religious and sentimental value to a lot of Hindus is added for good measure.
We have a Sikh prime minister , a Roman Catholic Italian super prime minister, a Christian defence minister and a Sikh Chief of Army staff. Maybe more needs to be done to prove to America and the western world that India is indeed a secular country.


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RE:Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 06:48 PM  Permalink
Let America have one Muslim or Sikh or Hindu President then lecture others on secularism. I remember how in my school, there was a mandatory subject called Moral science where only Bible was taught (so Bible is science but rest all is mythical).And that wasn't a one running from charity money - it was with hefty fee and all that. Imagine plight of those studing in christian schools running on charity money. They must be getting pressurized to convert everyday.

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RE:Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by suhail khan on Sep 16, 2007 07:08 PM  Permalink
Who is telling you to go to Christine school to study or send your children in catholic schools?
You people are only waiting whole night at the school gate to get admission of your children and then you curse them. Do not show your Double standard.
If you are ware of the fact then do not send your children to catholic schools.


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RE:Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 07:10 PM  Permalink
I agree with you sir. but let us face it - there is major shortage of govt or non-christian schools. things are looking up but still long way to go.

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RE:Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by R K Pradheep on Sep 16, 2007 06:58 PM  Permalink
MY FRIEND YOU KNOW ONE THING THERE IS COMMUNITY IN CHRI... CALLED SYRI.. CATH.. THOSE WHO DO NOT BELIVE JE... (HOPE YOU CAN FILL BLANKS) AND WEST SHOLUD KNOW ALL REVOLUTIONS FROM FRENCH TO RUSSIAN DUE TO RELIGIOUS LEADERS TODAY THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT SECULARISM

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RE:Proving India's 'secular' credentials
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 07:02 PM  Permalink
Why afraid to fill it Man! If they can insult us, why should we show restraint. this is world of tit for tat.
Say with Pride we are Hindus!

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HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by rk pradheep on Sep 16, 2007 06:40 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

I want to ask tamils one thing you people say Ramayana is myth and charecters are imaginary if ramayana is imaginary can you people explain about KANNAGI and SILAPATHIKARAM infact as per story it clearly shows injustice for women even though men do any thing women sholud not ask any thing and once that husband is killed she will fight for justice on top of all its continuous epic manimekalai which tells kovalan's maiden MADHAVI and her daughter manimekalai story in that kovalan will doubt madhavi's charecter but not vice versa AND these story were clearly opposed by true rationalist man mr PERIYAR but his followers DMK, DK, ... says kannaki as symbol of tamil culture they even have statue for her disturbing road traffic. ONE THING TAMIL FRIENDS I AM NOT AGAINST SETHU BUT YOU PEOPLE SHOULD UNDRSTAND IF KANNAGI AND SILAPATHIKARAM WERE TRUE RAM AND RAMAYNA WERE ALSO TRUE.

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by MGR Fan on Sep 16, 2007 06:45 PM  Permalink
The logic of DMK people is - I am always right, you are always wrong.

If you ask them to answer logically, they will repeat some crap like millions of dravidans murdered, cruel bramin this that...

They wont answer as to how come despite all so called murders, there are 25 crore tamils.

All tamil history tells is fighting betwene Chera, Chola, Pandya, CHalukya- all south indians warring each other

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by senthil on Sep 16, 2007 07:24 PM  Permalink
Dear Pradeep,
You are right in many accounts. As a matter of fact, no one says kannagi is of godess stature. However, the tamil epics you mentioned are good example of how civilized our ancient indians are. Same is applies to ramayanam as well. Though, we do have some ill work of ram such as mutilating a women's face for her minor crime. But we do condone rama's for attrocity towards women even against sita. We take positives from all our ancient literature, which are made to civilize humen beings. We all should understand this and work towards development of india rather than going back to stone age. This what actually told by few good indian politicians such as Periyar.
The Crux is Ramayanam, Silapathikaram etc are not history. I know you are literate have six senses. We don't have " Concrete" Scientific evidence that supports all the epics are historic. Don't hinder our Indian progress by becoming the puppets in the hands of unscruplous politicians..

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by true tamilan on Sep 16, 2007 08:08 PM  Permalink
Can you please tell me what is the so called Lord Ram's atrocity? He sent his beloved wife to forest because his first duty was king and then as a family man.

Don't talk rubbish

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by R K Pradheep on Sep 16, 2007 07:34 PM  Permalink
MY FRIEND SENTHIL YOU KNOW KANNAKI HAS TEMPLE IN TAMILNADU AND KERALA BORDER AND FOR YOUR INFO SETHU WAS NOT LAUNCHED ON WELFARE OF TAMILS BUT WELFARE OF SOME BCOZ PLUTONIUM PRESENT THERE VALUE $500 BILLION DOLLARS FROM AMERICA TO LOCAL POLITICIAN EVERY ONE NEEDS FRUIT I WANT TO KNOW WHY CM NOT TRYED TO BULID SETHU WHEN HE CM FOR HIS FIRST TENURE FROM 1969 TO 1976 AND EVEN CLOSE TO INDRA TILL EMERGENCY

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by senthil on Sep 16, 2007 08:41 PM  Permalink
Dear Pradheep,
Ha ha ha.. Plutonium. It is good news for India. If it actually exists.

FYI, Plutonium is not a natural element. Only Uranium and thorium are available naturally. Plutonium is by product nuclear fission process. It is artificially made in reactors. Don't blindly believe in plutonium story.

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RE:HEY RATIONALIST TAMILS AND THEIR SUPPORTING PEOPLE
by MGR Fan on Sep 16, 2007 06:47 PM  Permalink
They also believe that Kumari Kandam, an imaginary continent south of Kanyakumari existed 3000years ago.

But cant give proof for that.

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RE:RE:CHRISTIANITY WILL BECOME A DOMINANT RELIGION!!!
by Cutlet Gravy on Sep 16, 2007 06:52 PM  Permalink




If you say that these are the projections of

international observers and that you neither

support nor denounce Christianity and its

spread, then why hide behind a name such as

CHRISTIAN FANATIC?

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Shiv SENA n VHP .... LONG LIVE
by Diwakar Krishna on Sep 16, 2007 06:34 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its because of these groups we Hindus are secured otherwise these politicians will make this county another small pakistan and we hindu's will come to minority. COZ these muslims are producing kids like RATS. They are multiplying like anything. YOU COME TO MUMBAI.. N YOU FEEL PROUD COZ OF SHIV SENA YOU CAN LIVE WITH YOUR HEADS UP...

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RE:Shiv SENA n VHP .... LONG LIVE
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 06:37 PM  Permalink
Long live Sena/VHP/BJP.

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RE:RE:Shiv SENA n VHP .... LONG LIVE
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 06:39 PM  Permalink
They are our only hope from being eradicated .They too have corrupt, goon politicians etc but we have to support them as they are our only voice else we Hindus would be ethnically cleaned and reduced to minority and vanish.

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RE:Shiv SENA n VHP .... LONG LIVE
by F X on Sep 17, 2007 08:08 AM  Permalink
Funny you mentioned that aren't hindus the majority(80%) and muslims minority of course India being the worlds second populated and third world country.

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RE:RE:CHRISTIANITY WILL BECOME A DOMINANT RELIGION!!!
by Cutlet Gravy on Sep 16, 2007 06:56 PM  Permalink






If you say that these are the projections of

international observers and that you neither

support nor denounce Christianity and its

spread, then why hide behind a name such as

CHRISTIAN FANATIC?

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RE:CHRISTIANITY WILL BECOME A DOMINANT RELIGION!!!
by Sarath Chandra on Sep 16, 2007 06:35 PM  Permalink
Your 4th paragraph is a key issue that I hope people realize. As for christianity becoming dominant, I don't think it matters one way or another. Almost all religions, except Islam, have come to terms with modernity, and religion is no longer a priority (except maybe when somebody insults it). The west has long since ignored the bible and biblical teachings to progress the way they did. Presently, people are just born into a religion, they don't practice much. And don't care too.



However, Islam with its intolerance and aversion to criticism (apostasy deaths and shariah laws), which is antithetical to freedom and democracy, must be fought. It is very important for everybody to realize the importance of the point you stated in your 4th paragraph.

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RE:NANDU RAJUKAR
by MGR Fan on Sep 16, 2007 06:31 PM  Permalink
You can always create pages in geocities. Give concrete proof. Concrete evidene of Aryan bramins coming to India and suppressing others.



BTW- Karna, Krishna, valmki, big list of HIndus are sudhras and there is no evidence that they were suppressed.



Most kings were sudras. You know Yadavas were ruling Maharastra at one time. Likewise, Maurya was all OBCs.

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RE:RE:NANDU RAJUKAR
by MGR Fan on Sep 16, 2007 06:33 PM  Permalink
Your page only is cut and paste from English transalation of Manu sastra.



That is not evidence. You prove, when aryans invaded and conquered india.



Further, if manu was followed how come Karna a OBC was accepted as ak ing, how come mauryas became kings, how come Krishna who grew with cowheards was accepted god?



Your evidence is FAKE

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Divide and Rule agenda of congress
by Rahul Date on Sep 16, 2007 06:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

We all know that congress govt since last 50 years was never for Hindus..Their only agenda was vote bank politics and corruption..
But they very well know that indians are the most selfish people on this planet,hence they hv made their place secure by way of reservations to win future elections.. All the hindus shd be united and reject this so called secular govt..

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RE:Divide and Rule agenda of congress
by iluvtaj on Sep 16, 2007 06:29 PM  Permalink
exactly it is their policy and in fact policy of foreigners ITALIANS and now chinese (CPI) are also supporting them.
WHY they are targetting HINDU gods??

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RE:Divide and Rule agenda of congress
by Anup Saxena on Sep 16, 2007 06:44 PM  Permalink
Truly said. CPI standa for Chinese Party of India

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RE:RE:Divide and Rule agenda of congress
by dharmesh vyas on Sep 16, 2007 06:59 PM  Permalink
CPI is by product of China.

Throw them out of power.

Then this difuse cell will say Jay Shree Ram to get power

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