RE:I have a suggestion
by Siddard on Sep 17, 2007 08:06 AM Permalink
See the map please, Already alternate routes are availble around Srilanka, Another alternate via pacific and atlantic, Any other alternate route would imply that either TN or Srilanka should give some ground area to be made a canal.
RE:The whole issue is political
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 07:49 AM Permalink
Karunanidhi thinks he is very clever and will live forever.
So, he has no scruples or values and will say anything.
The fault is not entirely with him or them.
It is also with us for letting him and his chelas to get away with it.
Think about where you can make an difference and do it before these jokers (politely put) destroy India beyand repair.
Thsee discussion boards are only worth something if they inspire you to do something positive for your beliefs not just show off your typing skills.
There will always be the clever Hindu-Baiters, who can never see beyond their hatred and will raise Asinine questions like' What species hanuman belonged to etc"
They are ther to bait you and to put down Hunidu beliefs, which I am afraid the Hindus don't know enough about.
These politicians and pseudo seculars are no that easily cowed as they don,t have any values and will go to any lengths to Dehigatee the Hindu Faith while NOT A WORD is said about the Semetic set of beliefs.
Ever wonder why the temples in most of India are controlled by the Government, which collects the Devotee's money and then uses the money for funding items such as missionary school and Hajj travel.
How much money did the government of Kerala, Tamil Nadu, Andhra, Karnatak collect form the Masjids or Churches - ZERO.
How many non-bleeivers are controlling or supervising the functionng of these churches or Masjids - ZERO
Majority of the Chuches during British times were built using the poor INDIAN HINDU's money.
Futher, prime pieces of land were given to these institutions by the Viceroy or local functionary, which is tatmount to stealing.
As for the prostituiton, how many have you come across, other than those taoght to you by you Padre/Mulla( I don't condone it but let us talk facts here)
As for the churhes mayeb you neglected to read the headlines about Pedophila or raping minors in a most dastardtly way by the Catholic priests.
I am sure you caught the headlines abouth the recent sttlements by the Catholic Churc fro US $ 600 MILLION in just one diocese.
RE:Economically not feasible?
by on Sep 17, 2007 08:32 AM Permalink
The whole country has become napunsak...
Sonia is scr--ing India and we are having fun!!!
Wake up NOW, and protect out heritage, our beliefs. This channel proposed by the NEW governmet, will only divide us. The channel is easily bypassable, routes around the Sri Lanka mainland.
Besides, What are the Saviours of Hinduism doing at this time...kaan parr jooo bhee nahin rengti aajkall...
RE:Economically not feasible?
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 08:47 AM Permalink
All those who beleive in Hinduism are its saviours, not these politicians.
YOU have to wake up and do what is right, starting locally, not wait for these opportunistic poiliticians to manipulate and destroy India.
It is a hard road, but it has to start with each individual and you have to decide not wait for lighning to hit you.
You seem to be a member of the Sangh Parivar. You and your cult project Brahmin faith as Hindu faith. Read Hindu sentiment as Brahmin sentiment and one could get a clear picture of your apprehension over 'Ram bridge'. I am a Hindu as well and I don't get carried away by your cult's "white collar saffronism".In one aspect,I am extremely proud of having Mr.Karunanidhi as our Chief minister. Next to Periyar and Annadurai it is Mr.Karunanidhi who has managed to keep Hinduism (Brahminism) at bay. And I could understand the hatred you guys have for him,because there is no takers for your ideology here in Tamilnadu.
RE:RE:Economically not feasible?
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 08:32 AM Permalink
@invent ideas
Read what is written bfore talking or writing.
This is an economic analysis.
The belief about Ram is personal and important part of the many Hindus and I can wirte about that BUT what I wrote above is economic sense.
Do you know that the entire runway at Kolkatta airport had to be rerouted at great expense to preserve some small mosque.
Know your facts before talking.
If you have you eyes open you may realise that how many crores are being siphoned off from the government for various projects that go nowhere and I am certain that this is also one of them.
Before you make some ridiculous, irrelevant answer, maybe you can find out about the BOFORS scandal, among others.
Wjhat about the roads built by hte Govenrment contractors that don't last ONE season , while in the developed countries they can withstand tempratures for 0 to 44 degrees without too much problems.
So, before you use the same crap about the BJP, try to understand what one is talking about.
Of course, I know that the pseudo seculars b.s is what I can expect like you are trying.
To end this , how many Gvernmnet projects have been profitable and gievn people a healthy reurn on their money,
RE:Economically not feasible?
by ravikiran on Sep 17, 2007 09:36 AM Permalink
If you lose your connection with old heritage your future food will also be gone. You idiot.
Try denigrating semetic religions in public. It the the tolerance of Hindus that is giving idiots like karunanidhi a chance to denigrate hinduism
RE:Economically not feasible?
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
@ siddarth swamy
To answer your prejudiced statement, I was not born in a Brahmin family, but as per Vedanta, I aspire to be one , i.e. knowing Brahma Vidya, the Ultimate truth or what is ascribed in Sanatana Dharma.
Unfortunately, your blind hatred, no doubt inculated by previous contacts with the likes of Commies, misionaries, or their like does not even allow you to think clearly.
Do you know what is meant by Varna?
It is by your action that you are classified by Varna.
When you spew hatred like you demonstrate, you are predominantly living in Tamo Guna with very little Satva or Rajas.
These actions make you what you are. maybe by using some logic, you can figure out where you belong and how you can raise yourself up.
Since you have a name that has Swami in it, why don't you try to understand what that name implies. It help you get above the morass of blind hatred towards any group of people be it Brahmin or otherwise.
What is the stand of the King of Ramnad (Ramanathapuram Setupathi)who is the traditional Custodian of the Holy Bridge? He should certainly have some irrefutable historial records or else his entire Kingdom would have been deemed built on fake stories, which cannot be true. Further Sangam Literature which is over 2000 years old is replete with evidences which Mr. Karunanidhi cannot dismiss as fake without also reducing himself as fake in the process.
RE:Karunanidhi's stand
by invent ideas on Sep 17, 2007 08:09 AM Permalink
Why the so called protectors of Ram bridge never built a tample there and made worship there..
It is political guys we need to see the reality bug..
My question to those Hindus who are slandering abusing other religions and their prophets is that how would they feel if someone slandered our religion and beliefs.
Such a rotten behavior reflects poorly on Hindism and on Hindus in general and must be avoided at all cost.
RE:How would you feel
by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 08:52 AM Permalink
what other religion - muslims and chritians are hindus only.because of people like dmk.anna dmk they shifted their religion. we should expose their weakneess in other religions.
RE:How would you feel
by Anurag Shrivastava on Sep 17, 2007 08:58 AM Permalink
I hold no brief for the Hindus are doing that as you can see from my earlier posts - but they are doing that because their Gods have been abused for the last 1000 years , their temples smashed and missionaries with the help of British aggressive converting tribals and dalits. You should be happy this is only happening only as other civilizations have reacted far more violently. For one thing - a total ban on conversions ( even for Hindus marrying people from other religions )from Hinduism should cool down tempers. Religion - as they should go off the table - as far the country is concerned. Conversions are a cancer that is eating up this country's civilization.
RE:How would you feel
by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 10:12 AM Permalink
FALSE RELIGIONS by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 10:00 AM | Hide replies
HOW COME VIRGIN MARY GIVE BIRTH TO JESUS. HENCE CHRITIANITY IS A FICTION STORY.
HOW CAN ALLAH TELL PROPHT MOHAMMED TO MARRY A CRAWLING BABY. TO RAPE 6 YRS BABY AISHA. TO KILL MILLIONS OF PEOPLE. SO IT IS A GIMMICK PLAYED BY WOMENISER,RAPISTS AND MURDERER PROPHET MOHAMMED. HE MADE FALSE CLAIM OF ALLAH MESSENGER TO FOOL HUMANITY
RE:How would you feel
by Sunny Armageddon on Sep 17, 2007 11:05 AM Permalink
The Virgin birth of Jesus Christ Peace be upon him is also believed in all the three celestial religions i.e Christanity, Islam and Judaism, which form the major chunk of the populace. Secondly the Holy prophet Mohammad, may peace be upon him was never told by Allah to marry Aisha. She was not 6 years old as you have written and to dispel your propaganda, all the religions propagate peace and peaceful co-existence. But there are few rabid pockets of followers in every religion including yours like VHP, Bajrang Dal etc . I can't ask you to stop this propaganda for you as is evident from your nick, have a perverted mind filled with hatred towards other religions. Could be another victim of the years of hatred counseling you all recieve at the hands of these political organizations. In one word the likes of you can be summed up and this " Pathetic "
RE:How would you feel
by nitin pawar on Sep 17, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
Mr Bismilla, Comment with conscious mind bcoz u r commenting on very sensitive issues,religious characters. Sunny n Good muslim r right to say so. Science always wants to dominate religion n so makes comments,investigation,archeology survey etc., on the religious characters/centres(like JESUS,Mohammed prophet etc) to test their existence on the earth.THE WEST tests its major religions based on their historical proof,science,existence on earth etc.But for the WEST, EAST is mythology.We need to prove ourselves
RE:How would you feel
by Good Muslim on Sep 17, 2007 11:18 AM Permalink
Beesmilla,
Whom are you referring to by crawling baby? There is nothing like this in the biography of Muhammad. I think you are being brainwashed. You should get your facts from authentic books and not from somebody's fantasies.
Also, what is so surprising about Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus? Allah has created mankind, earth, skies, air, water, mountains etc etc then what is so difficult for him to create a human from a virgin womb. Allah just have to say 'Be and it happens'. Remember God is the Creator the most Powerful.
Sense has dawn upon cenre and they are trying different alignment. I want the canal to be built but without breaking Ramar Sethu. If it can be done. Why fight?
RE:Why fight?
by Arun karthick on Sep 17, 2007 04:14 AM Permalink
Project cannot be changed at any cost.It will lead to lot of cost and pollution poroblems.
RE:Why fight?
by Ford Eals on Sep 17, 2007 04:29 AM Permalink
Dude, this "ram sethu" was formed millions of years ago. I think Rama is supposed to have existed arounf 5000 years ago. While I agree, withdrawing the petition questioning Rama's existence was a right thing to do (although I don't beieve he ever existed), I do not think we should stop destruction of the Sethu.
Question one - What does arrest of shankracharya has to do with Muslim reservations?
Question 2 - what does Kashmir Hindu refugees have to do with illegal migrant detention act?
Muslim or Islam has nothing to do with either existence of Rama or Rama setu. We have nothing to do with the report. We have right to vote like anybody else in India. Which we should. Now 11% of Muslim cannot make a big difference in any election. Anybody who gets elected gets elected by majority of Hindu votes. Most if not all the parliament members in government are Hindus. Muslims are just scapegoats used by our so called leaders to sell hate and violence. And Mr. Tarun Vijay you are doing a very fine job helping them out. The reports the whole ram setu issue, Babri Masjid and all the political propaganda is just to create differences between Hindu and Muslims. At the end we as common people will be loser and out politicians will win no matter who dies and who suffers.
RE:Just stop selling hatemongering
by Aalsi on Sep 17, 2007 03:46 AM Permalink
Why do you need to pose a question here?Why do you want to defend your faith and your beliefs?They are your own.So why do you want to justify them infron of people who will not understand or appreciate your point of view.Just read the differing views and accept or reject them.
It is question of Ram setu.They Dravidian parties lead by Karunanidhi are making noise.Congress led govt filed an affidavit in the SC and now they have withdrawn it.As a hindu,I have sn unshakable faith.It does not matter what congress does or someone else does.My beliefs are stronger than Ram setu or any other structure that is associated with Lord Ram.
Taliban destroyed the bamiyan buddha statue,in Afghanistan.Congress is destroying Adam's bridge.
Forget about the faith aspect,the dredging and the dynamites are destroying the eco system.It will lead to problems later on.It is not going to be benefitial in any way in the future.Local fisherman will suffer,whether they are Hindus or muslims, or for that matter whether they are Aryans or Dravidians.
RE:Just stop selling hatemongering
by Arun karthick on Sep 17, 2007 04:12 AM Permalink
where were u peoples hiding when NDA announced this project in 1998. why crying suddenly.
RE:Just stop selling hatemongering
by Aalsi on Sep 17, 2007 04:58 AM Permalink
FYI,I am not even staying in India for last 5 years.My contention is not religious but ecological.I hate congress,BJP,sang parivar,AIADMK ,the left parties and the DMK.They will ruin India beyond any hope.
Yes,as a hindu,I did feel awkward,when Govt said that they do not have a proof about existence of Ram.But my feelings were not hurt,to make me abuse people of other faith.I do not get so low,as some of the other people do.
A person can either believe in god or not.But then we have very few people who do not believe in god.But those who do,they fight amongst each other for the superiority of their faith.And get down on insulting the beliefs of other people.
RE:RE:Just stop selling hatemongering
by Gururaj S on Sep 17, 2007 05:27 PM Permalink
Hammad, you are right - the politicians use Muslims to pocket a fixed chunk of votes, they divide Hindus to create another sizable chunk of votes.
You will also realize Muslims also play into the hands of politicians by playing up their religious expressions in violent ways - be it the case of a cartoonist, or a writer in a faraway land, or a lady author from Bangladesh. In most cases without even reading what is said the muslim mass is incited, and a mob is ready to lynch the lady in Hyderabad. Not even one secular politician stands up in her defence. Isn't Muslim on the street then showing the world what their religion of peace really is?
Your q2- Kashmir Hindu refugees were creation of the Kashmiri Muslims and an insensitive goverment at the centre and state level that did nothing to stop the massacre of Pandits and their forced eviction. The illegal migrants act refers to prevent influx from Bangladesh (primarily, Muslims) in to Assam and other NE states. The influx is so significant to alter demographics in certain areas and they establish their own party (MUF) which won a good number of seats.
As long as the Muslims do not show that they cannot be taken for granted by the politician, as long as they do not widen their horizon and mix freely, we will continue to witness this kind of tamasha.
