He is a stalwart and has spoken what literate literate hindus believe that ram existed only in hindu mythology. Apollo,Mars,etc, their gods of yester years and prior to being enlightened by celestial religions and whose statues are found all over Europe existed only in greek mythology. No one reveres them now and it is only in India that mythology survives and is heavily subscribed to. When a great leader speaks out , a political game starts. Dirty politics and politicians are the bane of India. As for the likes of Karunanidhi ...May your tribe increase.
RE:Karunanidhi
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 12:42 PM Permalink
Tell us about the 4 apostles and the stories that don't fit with each other with reference to the Jesus's resurrection.
Why is there so much confusion and if one version is right, then others are wrong.
Why is it so becuase then the whole CRUX of christianity would fall apart wouldn't it?
At least get the story straight.
Hinduism is a faith not a religon (or religious institution) which just brainwashes its poor subjects with fear of "eternal hell" or a promise (never verified) of Heaven, so that then they can use FEAR to manipulate you to do their bidding.
why are you afraid to challenge your religion?
Are you afraid that you will "rot in hell"?
I can give you detailed explanations about ALL aspects of Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma but when somebodies actions are guided by fear they cannot understand that they are indeed the children of one great Lord, and not seprate from them.
So, my firend, realize your true nature, and don't spend your Human birth denigrating the "Ultimate Truth" or who know what you will be born as next time and how many maore biths and deaths you will have to undergo to have a Human birth again.
Try your best to see the Lord in you. Not somewhere in "heaven or Hell"
what is so surprising about Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus? Allah has created mankind, earth, skies, air, water, mountains etc etc then what is so difficult for him to create a human from a virgin womb. Allah just have to say 'Be and it happens'. Remember God is the Creator the most Powerful.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by Good Muslim on Sep 17, 2007 07:24 PM Permalink
What should we call Krisha then. How many marriages and affairs did he had? 2. What about Draupadi with 5 husbands. What shall we call that? 3. What about agni pariksha that sita had to give? Isn't that supressing chaste woman? 4. What about loosing draupadi in gambling? What shall I name the character of the pandavs? 5. What about devadasi traditions in temples. Shall I call it prostitution or worship. 6. What about Sati? 7. What is Lingum? Do you really worship that?
These are facts from your books. Please prove me that I am wrong.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by vishnu kartha on Sep 17, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
wonderful answer abinav. iam impressed. some time ago sashi tharoor had written an srticle in Indian Express on why the term Hindu fundamentalism is irrelevent.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by indiansoul on Sep 17, 2007 01:01 PM Permalink
First answer
Yes moon was split into two.This was a prophecy announced even before the advent of Prophet muhammed pbuh.CHAKRAWATI FARMAS KING OF MALABAR, INDIA and many others were a proof to it.The incident relating to King Chakrawati Farmas is documented in an old manuscript in the India Office Library, London, which has reference number: Arabic, 2807, 152-173. It was quoted in the book %u201CMuhammad Rasulullah,%u201D by M. Hamidullah: %u201CIn Malabar, South-West Coast of India, that Chakrawati Farmas, one of their kings, had observed the splitting of the moon, the celebrated miracle of the Holy Prophet (pbuh) at Mecca, and learning on inquiry that there was a prediction from vedas of the coming of a Messanger of God from Arabia (Detail given bellow), he appointed his son as regent and set out to meet him. He embraced Islam at the hand of the Prophet, and when returning home, at the direction of the Prophet, died at the port of Zafar, Yemen, where the tomb of the %u201CIndian king%u201D was piously visited for many centuries.%u201DThe old manuscript in the %u2018India Office Library%u2019 contains several other details about King Chakrawati Farmas and his travel.for more information visit http://aymenn.wordpress.com/2006/11/12/moon-splitting-a-miracle-of-prophet-muhamadpbuh/
RE:Karunanidhi
by Gururaj S on Sep 17, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
What kind of evidence is this? I saw the link, but its a post on a site supporting Islam. Is there any 'scientific' proof? All that Nasa quote is gibberish. Notice further nonsense in that link - "The Hindu scriptures identify the greatest Prophet to come mentioning details of his birth, events of his life, his followers, etc. Some even give his Arabic name or its equivalents!"
I have never come across anyone speak of any such thing in Hindu scriptures. Any learned men around who knows if any Hindu scripture spoke of arrival of the prophet - please give details, we will be glad to read it...
RE:RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by indiansoul on Sep 17, 2007 01:04 PM Permalink
To your second question....How do u explain that Christ was born to a virgin mother.....??
HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THE BIRTH OF KARNA IN MAHABHARATA..HE WAS ALSO BORN TO A VIRGIN MOTHER.
God the almighty is greatest of all.For he who has created this universe and a man from a clot, this small thing of creating a man from virgin is not a big deal.
RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by Good Muslim on Sep 17, 2007 07:23 PM Permalink
What should we call Krisha then. How many marriages and affairs did he had? 2. What about Draupadi with 5 husbands. What shall we call that? 3. What about agni pariksha that sita had to give? Isn't that supressing chaste woman? 4. What about loosing draupadi in gambling? What shall I name the character of the pandavs? 5. What about devadasi traditions in temples. Shall I call it prostitution or worship. 6. What about Sati? 7. What is Lingum? Do you really worship that?
These are facts from your books. Please prove me that I am wrong.
RE:Karunanidhi
by mariappan on Sep 17, 2007 12:05 PM Permalink
yes his tribe has to increase so that anyone can have 4 wives and that too one can knock off a party worker's wife and make his own, and the progeny of his each wife will carve out fiefdoms in the state and if anyone makes a comment the whole city will be burnt.
RE:Karunanidhi
by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 01:52 PM Permalink
prophet of islam by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 01:46 PM | Hide replies
prophet had sex with a baby because allah told him to do. prophet has looted people because allah told him to do prophet has raped many women becaquse allah told him to do prophet killed many people because allah told him to do.
RE:RE:RE:Karunanidhi
by Good Muslim on Sep 17, 2007 07:09 PM Permalink
Couple of facts. 1. Muhammad married a widow aged 40 when he was 25. He remained married to her until she died. 2. Muhammad re-married when he was 48 and most of his marriages were with older women either widowed or divorced. The purpose of the marriages was to form friendships between tribes who were fighting with each other. 3. Muhammad married Ayesha when she was 9. Again this was a norm in arabia at that time. Even today, in some deserts this is a norm. Also keep in mind that women in deserts mature early.
Reminder: Multiple marriages was a norm at that time. Muhammad was not doing an extraodinary thing by marrying more than one women.
But I do want to respond to your claim: 1. You called Muhammad as womanizer. What should we call Krisha then. How many marriages and affairs did he had? 2. What about Draupadi with 5 husbands. What shall we call that? 3. What about agni pariksha that sita had to give? Isn't that supressing chaste woman? 4. What about loosing draupadi in gambling? What shall I name the character of the pandavs? 5. What about devadasi traditions in temples. Shall I call it prostitution or worship. 6. What about Sati? 7. What is Lingum? Do you really worship that?
These are facts from your books. Please prove me that I am wrong.
Now I invite you to Islam, a religion that calls to worship Allah alone who created this earth and the heavens. If you don't accept the invitation you will end up in hell under a sever torment. Mak
RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by SSCD on Sep 17, 2007 11:13 AM Permalink
Why have you forgotten the brutalities done by Mulla Mulayam during first Karseva. Weren't they human? Didn't they have the right to live? just because they were Hindus?
While you talk about Gujarat carnage, Why don't you think about Godhra train carnage? Why do you think life of a Hindu is cheaper than that of a muslim?
Why hindus like you have developed this inferiority complex? Why are you hell-bent on shooting at your own foot?
Division of India, Sikhs killing by in New Delhi-84, Akshardham temple attack in Gujrat, Raghunath Temple attack, Samjuta exp attack, Diwali blast in new delhi, Mumbai blast and so on ... Can you please let me know who is responsible for all those acts?? Why don't you go and ask Punjabis and Sindhis about the turmoil they went through during partition? The innumerable loss of lives that happened in name of Islam and Islamic state?
Why don't you read about massacre of Hindus by Moplas in Kerala?
Why have Hindus like you have developed this perverted notion of secularism? Why muslims have to be always specially treated? Why do they have to be always served like invited-guests at the cost of native Hindus? Just to win their confidence, Congress supported Khilafat movement (which had not idealogical similarities with Congress' own philosophy) and the same favoritism has continued over generations. Still, if they have the feeling that they are not native, then this problem is never ever going to be fixed!!
RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 11:27 AM Permalink
Ah our Commie friend arrives
What about the Nandigram carnage in West Bengal, under CPM?
What about the murders of many Hindu spporters in Kerala unde this CPM rule?
What about the fact that Pinnaryai Vijayan showed upto defend the padres and nuns at Murinjoor after they were found to have murdered nearly 100 innocent people who went to this "healing centre" for help.
Little bit of hypocrisy, Comrade.
How many murders has the "party" done to save the "common man"
How many people have died in terrorist attacks in Bharat.
It should not be that difficult to count should it, Comrade
RE:RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by Sunjey L on Sep 17, 2007 11:02 AM Permalink
Your message is irrelevant to this article, so please say something relevant to this thread or get you butt outta here!!
RE:RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by vishnu kartha on Sep 17, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
the word muslim is so much associated with terrorism these days. there is not a single place in earth where there is a muslim population and they live peacefully. if they dont find anybody from other faith, then they kill each other. they just cant live without drinking blood. they are the draculas of this era.
RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by k kkk on Sep 17, 2007 11:37 AM Permalink
shadevan, They will use knife to kill a pregnant lady and will take the kid out and will shout "Bhrat MAHATA hi jay". That is the culture what hinduism taught ??
RE:RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 12:43 PM Permalink
@ kkkk
Did you forget about the Crusades or did the Padre not teach you about it
RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by mariappan on Sep 17, 2007 12:06 PM Permalink
yeah you should know it better because thats what your grand father did during the moplah riots
RE:Babri Masjid demolition and Gujarat Carnage were the two examples of BJP's brutality. UP CD distribution and fake encounters are feathers on their golden cap.
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 11:54 AM Permalink
Tell me were there to try to put back the peices of the innocents blown up in hte Mumbai blasts.
Did you help sort out which peice belonged to whom.
Were you able help re-attach the limbs of those that were lost.
I don't condone vilence but I resve the the right to DEFEND myslef whatever maybe the cost.
So, don't think that all will just take whatever you dish out.
Its feels like crying seeing all these blunders going on in a great nation like Hindustan. Its easy for people like me sitting outside the nation and passing comments, but indeed things have gone beyond all the limits. Questioning the very existence of RAM is like bombarding world 's most ancient and third largest faith with one nuclear bomb and finishing our species. No one could ever dare to do that even when we were ruled by foreign invaders for last one thousand yrs. Its true that no one can harm you untill you are are willing to be harmed. All the hindus of congress and tamil govt have no right to belong to the most peaceful and cherished still mystic religion in the world. At one time I started thinking that there is no point voting for any party and stopped voting in elections. I thought that the whole system is so corrupt that I can't even think whom to vote for. But now , its time to rethink . All of you rediff readers who voted for congress last time, realize what huge damage have you done to yourself. Realise that this is the only power a common person has in India which can change fortunes of the whole nation. I know BJP is no better and is also full of some greedy politicians. But no one in that party can even think to that extent. Even muslims should realise that congress is doing all this to appease you guys and get votes. They don't have any soft corner for you. Once they find they have a better votebank , they would switch on to that. Now is the time for ind
RE:RAM IS INDIA
by on Sep 17, 2007 10:47 AM Permalink
Now is the time for india's biggest industries like bollywood, ambanis, infosys, tatas to jump in and voice their views. Isn't it their moral duty to give back some thing to the nation where they got everything. The whole nation should get united to overpower this anti-hindu offensive. RAM is truly one such word which is perhaps the first and last word out of a hindu mouth. RAM is not only focal of Hindus but also center pillar for other offshoot religions like Budhism, Jainism and Sikhism. Can Sikhs question their own Sri Guru Granth Sahib which idolises RAM in every page? Politicians should be taught that some things are beyond politics and they can't play dirty games like that. This is the only option we have to turn things over. BJP should know that no Godhra should be repeated and no aftermaths of Godhra should be repeated either. This is not how India became a great nation. No indira gandhi should come back and neither bhindrawala. This is not the first time Congress played anti hindu card Remember, the whole 370 article on kashmir due to which no person outside of J&K can buy any land or set anything up there... Has anybody forgotten the killings of innocent Sikhs after Indira Gandhi was killed and the culprits are still roaming around... Appeasement of illegal immigrants from bangladesh who eat away indian's jobs and spread terrorism ...
RE:RE:RAM IS INDIA
by on Sep 17, 2007 10:49 AM Permalink
Reservations on the basis of religions rather than on economic basis... Nehru was okay even if he would be prime minister of new delhi, it was the Iron Man viz Sardar Patel(who would have been the first prime minister of india had Gandhi not backed Nehru) who led those times to build a stable and strong India from a conglomerate of 565 princely states... Rechanging the history books which were changed to factual history(mughals were invaders and not tourists although they stayed back and became part of the community)
Wise congressmen like Manmohan Singh would now be realising the gross error they committed by joining this party but now they are also part of the same game. Its feels like crying seeing all these blunders going on in a great nation like Hindustan. Its easy for people like me sitting outside the nation and passing comments, but indeed things have gone beyond all the limits. Questioning the very existence of RAM is like bombarding world 's most ancient and third largest faith with one nuclear bomb and finishing our species. No one could ever dare to do that even when we were ruled by foreign invaders for last one thousand yrs. Its true that no one can harm you untill you are are willing to be harmed. All the hindus of congress and tamil govt have no right to belong to the most peaceful and cherished still mystic religion in the world.
RE:RE:RE:RAM IS INDIA
by on Sep 17, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
At one time I started thinking that there is no point voting for any party and stopped voting in elections. I thought that the whole system is so corrupt that I can't even think whom to vote for. But now , its time to rethink . All of you rediff readers who voted for congress last time, realize what huge damage have you done to yourself. Realise that this is the only power a common person has in India which can change fortunes of the whole nation. I know BJP is no better and is also full of some greedy politicians. But no one in that party can even think to that extent. Even muslims should realise that congress is doing all this to appease you guys and get votes. They don't have any soft corner for you. Once they find they have a better votebank , they would switch on to that. And we Hindus have the history of being forgettable and support those who are actually our enemies . In a country of hindu majority party like BJP has never won on its own. Ya , its right if we think we are secular, but does secular means anti-hindu?
RE:RE:RE:RE:RAM IS INDIA
by on Sep 17, 2007 10:51 AM Permalink
Nowhere in present world can any govt of any country think of breaking down religious structure on the name of development . Even US can't think of bringing down anything like that, on the other hand US is the biggest donor of funds to groups which support christian conversions on the name of prosperity. Just yesterday Condoliza Rice came up with a report that religion is not freely practised in some Indian states. This is because Indian have put brakes on their plan to convert Hindus to Christians. Sounds so weird that the worlds biggest religion is trying to convert people to christanity by providing money to poor people. Second biggest religion is doing the same thing forcefully and by killing innocent people, Whereas the third biggest religion is full of people who are not happy with themselves and converting themselves to the other two or becoming slaves to the other religions .Some of us are atheists. But hindus won't understand all this , the are beyond these small things. Some day some politician will say destroy temples, erase holy river Ganga from Indian map, these guys will say it should go ahead for development. People like me don't need any proof to believe that this is truly KALYUGA. We get the proof everyday and that is why another avtaar of the immortal would soon take place. Recently a temple has been downed in new delhi. Where is hinduism going? Wake up and stand against these foreign forces.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RAM IS INDIA
by on Sep 17, 2007 10:53 AM Permalink
Where is hinduism going? Wake up and stand against these foreign forces. If you can't do something by urself, atleast vote and elect those who can protect you to some extent... WAKE UP AND EXCERCISE YOUR RIGHT BEFORE THESE POLITICIANS THROW YOU OUT of YOUR RELIGION AND CULTURE AND EVEN YOUR COUNTRY
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:RAM IS INDIA
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 11:33 AM Permalink
The Hindus are their own worst enemies.
Just the British did, they make you fight based on caste or region or tradition, if not something else, sit back and fan the flames then when it is burned up, come in like bottom feeding scavengers and destroy what is left.
RE:RAM IS INDIA
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 12:04 PM Permalink
@kkkk or wahtever you hide behind
Hinduism is a faith not a religon (or religious institution) which just brainwashes its poor subjects with fear of "eternal hell" or a promise (never verified) of Heaven, so that then they can use FEAR to manipulate you to do their bidding.
why are you afraid to challenge your religion?
Are you afraid that you will "rot in hell"?
I can give you detailed explanations about ALL aspects of Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma but when somebodies actions are guided by fear they cannot understand that they are indeed the children of one great Lord, and not seprate from them.
So, my firend, realize your true nature, and don't spend your Human birth denigrating the "Ultimate Truth" or who know what you will be born as next time and how many maore biths and deaths you will have to undergo to have a Human birth again.
RE:RAM IS INDIA
by dinesh kumar on Sep 17, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
what are the examples of muslim appeasement that u can show?
that is the myth number 1.
do u know that kashmir has a separate constitution?
the myth number 2 is that u confuse a disputed territory of kashmir with what is happening inside the country.
do u know that the majority of the people who vote in our country are hindus?
the myth number 3 is that the congress is disrespecting hinduism.why should it do that when the majority of the people who vote are hindus.
this problem arose because the same politicians who started this project ,now want to stop it for political reasons.for their benefit,they have dragged a matter of faith into a court of law.the govt can only say that it does not possess evidence,because it does not have evidence that is acceptable in a court of law.
the hindus are the majority in our country ,the bjp tries to make them feel insecure so that people move towards the bjp.
the bjp is guilty of making the hindus feel insecure and inferior in a country where we are the majority.
as long as u confuse politics and religion,neither will our country develop nor will hinduism benefit.
vote for the bjp if u find that it will provide good governance not because it has fooled u with its stunts.
RE:RAM IS INDIA
by mariappan on Sep 17, 2007 12:13 PM Permalink
anyway this country's development has not helped the hard working people but only the faith healers from abroad, starting from benny hinn to who knows maybe the pope too.
For your information bjp did not ask the government to say ram is a myth in the court, and the court case was filed by subramaniam swamy who was a secularist as late as 7 years ago.
Do you know the reason why Sita was kidnapped and seperated Rama?
Version 1: As per Shiv Maha Puran 5.2.3 when Visnu tries to subdue Narada's ego by making his face look like a monkey Narad curses him "You too would suffer due to separation from your wife, during your incarnation of Ram and the monkey would come to your help."
Version 2: As Shiv Maha Puran 2.126 Vishnu takes the guise of Vrinda's husband and lives with her for a long time. One day, she came to know about the real identity of the person, who was impersonating as her husband. Realizing that her chastity has been breached, she cursed lord Vishnu by saying that just as he had played a deceitful trick with her in the same way somebody would deceitfully abduct his wife and he too would wander in her search. After cursing lord Vishnu, Vrinda embraced death by entering into the fire.
RE:REASONS WHY SITA WAS KIDNAPPED
by SSCD on Sep 17, 2007 10:55 AM Permalink
these are out of context quotation and hence don't stand a chance as an argument.
There has been lot of mud-slinging going around on these message boards. Why can't we be more constructive?
RE:REASONS WHY SITA WAS KIDNAPPED
by Sunjey L on Sep 17, 2007 10:59 AM Permalink
Pray tell me o wise one.. who bestowed the title of a "religious scholar" on you? Imam Buhkari or the Pope? hahahaha
RE:REASONS WHY SITA WAS KIDNAPPED
by k kkk on Sep 17, 2007 11:44 AM Permalink
plz clear my doubts, Ravana even did not not touch sita then why ram killed her? why ram doubted his wife and tested her virginity? squrells have 3 white lines at thier back then sita had three white lines at her back? ram sita marriage was done by vashisita the great then why both were seprated? one big doubt,
have any one proved the existance of ram???
or can anyone prove ? The aryans used ramayana and mahabrata to crush the lower caste hindus.Now the tragedy is the lower caste hindus are also shouting as ram is god .this is becoz of the brain wash.
ramyana is just an epic.ram is just a character. i donmt know why this sentimental idiots are woshipping him as god. if one actor is doing well in amovie will u worship him as god???
RE:RE:REASONS WHY SITA WAS KIDNAPPED
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 12:09 PM Permalink
@kkkk or wahtever you hide behind
I hope you get this message. You desperately need help. Please understand (i don't have much hope)
Hinduism is a faith not a religon (or religious institution) which just brainwashes its poor subjects with fear of "eternal hell" or a promise (never verified) of Heaven, so that then they can use FEAR to manipulate you to do their bidding.
why are you afraid to challenge your religion?
Are you afraid that you will "rot in hell"?
I can give you detailed explanations about ALL aspects of Hinduism or Sanatana Dharma but when somebodies actions are guided by fear they cannot understand that they are indeed the children of one great Lord, and not seprate from them.
So, my friend, realize your true nature, and don't spend your Human birth denigrating the "Ultimate Truth" or who know what you will be born as next time and how many maore biths and deaths you will have to undergo to have a Human birth again. I know that intelectually is difficult becuase of the brainwashing but try
RE:REASONS WHY SITA WAS KIDNAPPED
by linus on Sep 17, 2007 12:55 PM Permalink
Perhaps you are one of the unfortunates whose ancestors were raped and abused by upper castes. You probably are doubting the credentials of your lineage. Perhaps there is a element of upper caste blood/gene along with your lower caste. Perhaps you are now converted to a religion which looks down upon all other religions. You are talking about irrationality when the so called true scientific religions talk about a Virgin Mother ( now that is scientifically impossible ) and splitting the moon into half . So stop bothering and stop trying to rationalizes others faith. You wouldn't first place in case you knew what faith was all about ? You are just one hard headed moron who probably hates his own existence...!!
RE:The Taxonomy of Hindu gods
by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 01:54 PM Permalink
prophet of islam by beessmilla on Sep 17, 2007 01:46 PM | Hide replies
prophet had sex with a baby because allah told him to do. prophet has looted people because allah told him to do prophet has raped many women becaquse allah told him to do prophet killed many people because allah told him to do.
RE:The Taxonomy of Hindu gods
by mariappan on Sep 17, 2007 11:12 AM Permalink
JB the answer for your question lies here, figure it out.
But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare. That day will bring about the destruction of the heavens by fire, and the elements will melt in the heat.2 Peter 3:10-11
The first angel sounded his trumpet, and there came hail and fire mixed with blood, and it was hurled down upon the earth. A third of the earth was burned up, a third of the trees were burned up, and all the green grass was burned up.Revelation 8:7
A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur that came out of their mouths.Revelation 9:18
The LORD will cause men to hear his majestic voice and will make them see his arm coming down with raging anger and consuming fire, with cloudburst, thunderstorm and hail.Isaiah 30:30 In the fire of his jealousy the whole world will be consumed, for he will make a sudden end of all who live in the earth.Zephaniah 1:18
RE:The Taxonomy of Hindu gods
by Jeffrey Mittal on Sep 17, 2007 11:41 AM Permalink
JB is purposely misspelling them as he intent is mockery.
jb, tell about the 4 apostles and the stories that don't fit with reference to the Jesus's resurrection. Why is there so much confusion and if one version is right then others are wrong.
Why is it so becuase then the whole crux of christianity would fall apart wouldn't it?
At least get the story straight, before you jump like a monkey to their brainwashing
