RE:Be an indian than an aryan.
by SEEK on Sep 18, 2007 10:25 PM Permalink
Read about the semitic religious beliefs:
1.Allah- an old man in a dirty robe who can speak only Arabic and who claims to be the God of the Universe..
2.Mother Mary- Gave birth as a virgin and put the blame on God and poor Joseph had to take mother and son package in marriage.
3.Yesu-a good man who lived the life of an ordinary human,but Church made him superhuman by denying him his wife,son so that Peter could have the throne and all the succeeding Popes can have a life of prosperity,very little spirituality( how differently Jesus lived!!!!)
4.Mohmmed-believed in an eye for an eye and a head for a head till he crushed all the rival tribes.Then suddenly one fine morning,a book named Koran landed on his hands from nowhere .From that day started the spread of falsehood around the world.
First of all Rama and Ramayana is a story and its a myth.
1.According to the period Mentioned by ramayana, at the same period there were no islands in indian ocean. Infact indian subcontinent was stretched deep below till the current MADSAGSCAR country of AFrican continent. Later due to the geographical changes indian subcontinent was shrinked and islands were formed in indian ocean. (If you dont know this, better read the geography of the earth.) This clearly shows that there were no Rameswaram islands and srilankan islands during the period mentioned by ramayana. So Ramayana is a story.
2. Thos who still believe in ramayana, let me tell one thing. Great Rama and his army build a bridge from Rameswaram island to Srilanka.This is according to Ramayana story. ok. Then how did Rama went to Rameswaram island from Indian mainland?. Where is the bridge between Indian mainland and rameswaram island?. Rama bridge between rameswaram and srilanka is clearly a myth.
So dont live in myth. Be alert and active. Let us not spoil our future generation with these kind of myths. Lets take india to a developed nation and not to the stone age period
RE:To Fanatics - Try to defend this if you can
by srinivasan mv on Sep 19, 2007 03:28 PM Permalink
Hurreh!! Ramayana happened some 10,000 years back. So many changes have taken place and how do u know that Indian subcontinent was stretcheddeep below till the current Madagascar country of African continent. Are you more than 10,000 years old. On what document are you relying? Some crook would have written something and you are relying on that.
Why do you call people's faith as fanaticism? What do you call the Christians and Muslms then? In fact, Hindus never tried to kill people and convert them to their faith. I think it is time that they revise their strategy.
RE:To Fanatics - Try to defend this if you can
by Marco Polo on Sep 18, 2007 10:12 PM Permalink
Rameshwaram an island????? I never heard of it.I think it is part of mainland. The other doubts you have are only to disprove the existence of Rama.What will you gain from that,some Vatican money?
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy: Continues.
by Tamil Arasan on Sep 19, 2007 12:09 AM Permalink
dai fool, what aggression you are taking about, if Brahmins ill treated us then you scold Brahmins, not our great Hindu dharma, since our dharma passed many centuries one can expect some unwanted addition in its great voyage, now we need reform not destruction, never ever think about it then we all will be wiped out. What you think about India, we as a nation differ in many things but Hinduism is the unifying code, destruction to Hinduism is destruction to India.
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy: Continues.
by Tamil Arasan on Sep 19, 2007 12:10 AM Permalink
dai fool, what aggression you are taking about, if Brahmins ill treated us then you scold Brahmins, not our great Hindu dharma, since our dharma passed many centuries one can expect some unwanted addition in its great voyage, now we need reform not destruction, never ever think about it then we all will be wiped out. What you think about India, we as a nation differ in many things but Hinduism is the unifying code, destruction to Hinduism is destruction to India.
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy: Continues.
by siddarth swamy on Sep 19, 2007 04:55 AM Permalink
Mr. Tamil Arasan... Hindu dharma= Brahmin dharma. Don't be a sycophant to Brahmins.
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy: Continues.
by Perv Sharma on Sep 19, 2007 08:08 AM Permalink
Siddarth U R a Bigger Sycophant -- If U Agree Hindu Dharma is wrong what R U doing first of all with a Hindu NAme DEAR SWAMY ?
Hinduism only allows U to convert to any religion of one's following ? PRiest don't declare Death sentences - the court's don't rule death sentences like many other ISLAMIC NATIONS - including UR FRIENDLY NEIGHBOUR PORKISTAN ?
IF U want to convert to ISLAM then decide whether U want to be SHIA or a SUNNI ? IF U become SHIA the SUNNIS will blow away UR MOSQUE withing no time as is being proved in PORKI, IRAQ, etc,. BUT REMEMBER IT IS ONE WAY TRAFFIC IN ISLAMIC COUNTRIES - TRY to COnvert from ISLAM and U will be slaughtered like a GOAT ?
IF U want to become CHRISTIAN - then a protestant or a CATHOLIC - well DEAR POPE has announced Protestants are not christians and only CATHOLICS Are TRUE Christians - think and then join .
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy
by Perv Sharma on Sep 19, 2007 08:10 AM Permalink
U Already have Reservations IDIOT - 50% jobs - score 50% in 12th Science and become a DOCTOR or a Engineer what else Do U want ? 100% U already get free EDUcATIOn even into MEDICINES
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy
by Marco Polo on Sep 18, 2007 10:10 PM Permalink
I have no doubt about the glory and greatness of Tamil culture,but nobody is asking you to practise Hindu way of life.Whether you practise it or not,you automatically are part of it.We have the right to question Jesus,Mary,Muhammed,'Saint' Peter and all the middle eastern figures.What do you care?
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy
by JB on Sep 19, 2007 11:26 AM Permalink
It's true..Brahmins always wanted others to be poor...they wanted others to be socially and economically backward, without access to education, so that they can rule over them. Now that the brahmin superiority from the past ages has vanished, and is vanishing fast in some aread where it exists, they are just frustrated. Their threads, marks, and other brahminical symbols dont give them any superiority anymore.
It's really good that we are out of that system...!!!!... I'm really glad that I dont belong to any caste.
RE:The Brahmins Conspiracy
by Mak Kumar on Sep 19, 2007 03:13 PM Permalink
Looks like the poor guy is really frustrated. Couldn't you get through any of the entrance exams even after the reservations? or after getting through the entrance exams couldn't get through the job after further reservations?? Our sympathies are with you.But one advise, stop blaming others for your frustrations
RE:Denying Ram
by Marco Polo on Sep 18, 2007 10:05 PM Permalink
skumar,Italy cares two hoots for Sonia,that's the reason she decided to stay back in India.
Friends,why waste time and discuss about the disgusting terrorists' religion.We all know that we are not going to convert even when under their machine guns or sword and we have pledged that we will throw the Congress-DMK gang to Arabian sea after next election.So even they cannot bring down Hinduism anymore.They can swim,reach the barren Arabia and become slaves to the Saud family.Just imagine Sonia,Manmohan,Karunanidhi(if still alive considering his old age)working for the greatest islamic dynasty of the world.
Lets keep our faith and beliefs shining and forget about the terrorists and abusers and the crosssbearers.Lets protect our property from from the businessminded real estate owners(Xian church).
A brilliant exposition by Sri Tarun Vijay on this controversial topic. If only the Bajpeyi's govt during its tenure had made the case of Kashmiri Pundits more solid and taken steps to vitalise Hindu sentiments which form the core structure of this nation, the present generation politicians would not be craving for muslim and christian votes. After all no one cares for votes of Parsees or buddhists. Why. They are not so organised or in huge numbers. As for Babus of this govt. power, pelf and stability is all that they care for. This was the case during British days and it continues. Fortunately for the country, the judiciary has not sold its soul. That is how the game is being exposed. Thanks to 'rediffmail' that this debate is being given an intellectual level. We all know that religious beliefs are above common logic. Whether it is Rama building the 'setu' or a virgin giving birth to a boy, 'karna' style or God choosing to come in dream only to a person who hardly takes bath for paucity of water, out of about 500 million people inhabiting the earth then. Will the Govt of India officers ever dare to make any comment about these religious beliefs? If cancer could be cured by faith, no pope should die of cancer. Like wise if the dredging contract is given to parties loyal to Subrahmanyam Swami, Sri Karunanidhi will stop batting for the demolition work. What is required is to propogate the truth and realities among the masses, who will vote in the next election.
Indian science carries a black mark in the world. Here we have scientists, not presenting facts, but opinions without any research or evidence. This would not happen anywhere else in the world. I am willing to see evidence and make judgement based on that. But I know that there has been hardly any research on Indian ancient sites for 70 years, so how can any professional put their name on something that is speculation.
I have no problem in science facts defining history. I know that sites in Israel which have had more extensive research have not found all the evidence defined in the bible, but at least they try. For Indian scientists the job should be easier if the willingness was there, places and routes are better defined in The Ramayana. Let's carry out archaeological digs at the sites, and try and find evidence over the next 50 years or so. If no evidence is found, then make judgement - not now.
RE:Evidence
by Marco Polo on Sep 18, 2007 09:35 PM Permalink
Sir,there was some study carried out undersea on Krishna's Dwaraka and the findings were amazing.I think the results of such studies should be brought to all the people with the efforts of Govt or ASI.We get a lot of info about Arab History,Early Christian history ,Judaism in detail from thw web,History Channel,but when it comes to our History it is always a 'who cares' attitude.
RE:Evidence
by Raju Kumar on Sep 18, 2007 10:00 PM Permalink
Thank you, I will try and find it. Please watch 'The Story of India', it is a current BBC series that will probebly come on other channels. Michael Wood has also written a book.
This historian has researched not only in India, but Roman, Egyptian and Greek manuscripts to tell the factual-based story of India.
