RE:Denying Ram is saving India...!!!
by Atul on Sep 14, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
I have written somewhere in this forum that little knowledge is worse than having no knowledge at all. You need to study religion, mythology, theology, philosophy, history, quanum physics, molecular biology, anthropology. Once you have done that over a period of 50 years then please feel free to comment on Hindu religion or for that matter any other religion.
RE:Denying Ram is saving India...!!!
by zaheen usmani on Sep 14, 2007 11:43 PM Permalink
You are right people of differnt country used to worshipp the brave person of his country and made them god, as they used to do so before islam in arab but Islam finished all these folly and made human free from millions of small god
RE:Denying Ram is saving India...!!!
by Middle Road on Sep 14, 2007 11:46 PM Permalink
Sure. Let's abandon the superstitious Hindu faith. Let's all follow a progressive faith and look for Mary's image in a tree or a piece of bread.
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by Atul on Sep 14, 2007 11:29 PM Permalink
Dear Ashok,
You are blessed that you see God in 'Nirakar roop'. You have the traits of a Raj yogi. But there are for those who worship Lord in 'sakar roop' they are Bhaktas. They believe in Ram roop. We must respect them also. God is not just in living but ininanimate objects for them.
RE:RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 14, 2007 11:39 PM Permalink
I respect him all the time ..... I stopped going to temple where people belive that he is living there....... HE CAN NOT LIVE BETWEEN THOSE HYPROCITIC BELIVERS SITTING RIGHT NEAR THE TEMPLES.... AND THIS IS THE PROBLEM IN OUR RELEGION ONLY...... people cheating bakhtaas right infront of god and in the name of god.... I never see this sitiuation around a church or masjid.... why??? we become more hippcratic.....
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by Libran on Sep 14, 2007 11:36 PM Permalink
So you behave based on what others do? Just because Poojaris behave badly, you think God is questionable or Ram does not exist?
So on a similar basis, one can say the way politicians behaving we should not have faith in Govt and democracy and finally self rule - So invite foreigner to rule India?
Again, I respect that you are in search of formless God. Again you say, you find that in Small Kid. IF some one else finds god in temples, that is their way.
Again,
Following is just my opinion: I can understand if you don't understand me:
Nothing = everything.
Formless = every form.
So I find the formless God in every form that I can conceive and/or perceive.
RE:RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 14, 2007 11:42 PM Permalink
I am not objecting someone else belief..... I am tellling most of the people are not worshiping the god in real sense....1000 of people I have seen who treat being releigous is glamour thing.
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 14, 2007 11:52 PM Permalink
God did not just only made ram setu..... he made good humans ....he made water he made air, gave wisdom, he created nature..... what r u doing with them just polluting them..... then dont we feel sorry about it??? whole earth is god made.... then why we bomb this earth with nuclear bombs....???..
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 14, 2007 11:45 PM Permalink
By looking that young boy on road to hospital I belive rama must also have pleaded those BJP and RSS activists to let the boy go to hospital through their trafic blockade whivch happend during protest in andhrapradesh...... blocking roads and damaging public property is a mindless protest..... even god will curse them
RE:RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 14, 2007 11:47 PM Permalink
The boy dead due to delayed reach to hospital due to road blockade
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by V H on Sep 14, 2007 11:59 PM Permalink
Ashok, I am glad you are going through introspection that lot of us have already gone through. Beauty of Hinduism is such that you are allowed to think and worship formless GOD.
Now to the question of VHP and Bajrang Dal, they are political backlash for the mindless rulers from Congress for past 60 years trying to divide the country based on caste and religion. Make these rats disappear, VHP and Bajrang Dal will disappear automatically. People like you will not stand a chance against the onslaught of Jihadists and Missionaries. VHP and Bajrang Dal are the soldiers for high class people like you!!
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by ashok y on Sep 15, 2007 12:16 AM Permalink
Jihadists are just group of contact criminals and just using name of god...... what this VHP and others are doing you know ? they are making remaing people to suuport those murderars..... Congeress and co are oppertunistic pseudo seculars ..... an these BJP , VHP etc are oppertunistic so called our hindu care takers.... and on the other hand extreemist terrorist of the other relegion..... where every thing is going?? can u imagine
RE:It is good if one have complete faith in god
by V H on Sep 15, 2007 12:31 AM Permalink
Ashok. Dont be naive. Denmark, USA and other Western world used to talk like you until they got the real doze from these terrorist. Read whats happening in Denmark and France after Van Gogh murder. How the backlash is making them take right turn? Is that unbiased?
If anybody is supporting jihadist, who bomb and kill people, there is no justification whatsoever. You are able to justify these people supporting jihadist...and yet you are not able to extend same support for VHP and Bajrang Dals, who have seen violence and destruction on Hindus throughout last 1000 years
RE:Denying Ram is saving India.....!!!!!
by AMRESH GUPTA on Sep 14, 2007 11:34 PM Permalink
idiot.....u r an idiot of the biggest degree...jus becoz something is old..doesn't mean its useless...y the hell shud i move on if the epics like ramayana,gita still has so many thing to teach me..some good things...jus give me a single reason....if ur mother is old..will u change her u moron....many thngs still relevant to us...nd u know actually we need those qualities like duty and dharma more in today's context...jus see the moral degredation of west or whoever u r praising....
RE:Denying Ram is saving India.....!!!!!
by Libran on Sep 14, 2007 11:44 PM Permalink
Hindus also know what is Mythology and what is history. They called Mythology as Puranas. They knew Ramayana and Mahabharatha are history. That is why Ramayana and Mahabharatha are not included in the big list of 18 Puranas.
Also, why do you single out Hinduism. Mythology is in every religion. Mythology does not mean it is myth. It only means, we have no observable evidence now.
There are what can be considered supertition in other religion like belief in Ghosts, Friday the thirteenth fears etc.
So don't be a Hero by denigrating Hinduism. But remember onething. It is only Hinduism that can accommodate any belief. That is why it is mnay times repeated that it is a Dhrama and not a religion.
RE:RE:Ram is Myth!!!
by Atul on Sep 14, 2007 11:23 PM Permalink
In a court of law science like quantum physcis and molecular biology will also appear as a myth too. Those who dont understand it will say this is all hocus phocus. How you will show the judge an atom or a neutron, muon or a quark. Ask a supreme court judge about 'String theory' or :) May be you can ask him siRNA or a zincfinger or jumping genes. Most of those who talk about scientific theories proving or disproving existance of 'God' hardly understand science. Having little knowledge is worse than having no knwledge at all :)
Namaskar. On the one hand, you are complaining about Britishers. On the other hand, you are saying Ram & Lakshman as Rama, Lakshmana. Why name has be follow English Grammer? Britisher did it to Indian names only. They never changed Irish names e.g 'SEAN' pronounced as 'SHAWN' to spell it right or grammatically right. Don't we own names too. When you talk about India or Bharat, please refer the names as we pronouce in our languages.
RE:Denying Ram is denying India
by Human Value on Sep 14, 2007 11:16 PM Permalink
The Sanskrit name is Rama - the corrupted Hindi version is Ram. Hindi kills the vowels at the end of a word. Other languages would corrupt the Sanskrit names too (In Tamil it becomes Raman, In Telugu Ramam, etc.)
So what is yankeedoodle with his head stuck up some American's a** yelling about?
Ram setu is natural phenomenon formed by sediments and merine depositions which formed sandy mantle. Previously it has width of few hundred meters with direct contact with srilanka and belived that it slowly submerged due to rise in ocean level which happend. which indcates that it was neither constructed by any man or god rama. The deapth of sea is very low between india and srilanka at the region spanning few km width. This is classic phenomenon of errosion of soil at this low laying regions with collision of tides of arbaian sea and bey of bengal due to generation tides in opposite direction to each other. It is quite possible for progressive soil erosion spanning many thousend years which made this tip more narrower till early historical periods. and continued to errode completly and susequently sumerged in the sea at present
.....But it is wrong on the part of Govt. by telling there is ram never existed .... really hurts relegious sentiments.
