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RE:IMRAN PATEL
by Reuben on Sep 15, 2007 03:00 AM  Permalink
Hey illuvaj...stop and listen to what imran is telling. He has a point. Dont be blind.

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RE:IMRAN PATEL
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 03:02 AM  Permalink
BUT my question is what is the problem in speaking JAI HIND. I posted a comment in which i played a trick of saying it is in our anthem, had he known this that it is not in anthem he would have replied me very fast

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RE:RE:IMRAN PATEL
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 03:13 AM  Permalink
People have other things to do...I am not a PAID Blogger.

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RE:IMRAN PATEL
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 03:02 AM  Permalink
Hahahahaha...

National Anthem Never says "JAI HIND"...



Here is a translation...



! Dispenser of India's destiny, thou art the ruler of the minds of all people.

Thy name rouses the hearts of Punjab, Sindh, Gujarat, the Maratha country,

in the Dravida country, Utkala (Orissa) and Bengal;

It echoes in the hills of the Vindhyas and Himalayas,

it mingles in the rhapsodies of the pure waters of Jamuna and the Ganges.

They chant only thy name.

They sing only the glory of thy victory.

They seek only thy auspicious blessings.

The salvation of all people waits in thy hands,

O dispenser of India's destiny!

Victory, Victory, Victory, Victory to thee.

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RE:RE:IMRAN PATEL
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 03:03 AM  Permalink
read my previous message u paki, U TOOK LONG TIME?????????????????????????

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RE:RE:RE:IMRAN PATEL
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 03:14 AM  Permalink
I wanted to give you some DATA...I do not like to say things without FACTS.



Nice Try.

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Indian Constitution 101 - Article 1
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:52 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

1. Name and territory of the Union.%u2014(1) India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States.

(2) The States and the territories thereof shall be as specified in the First Schedule.

(3) The territory of India shall comprise%u2014

(a) the territories of the States;

(b) the Union territories specified in the First Schedule; and

(c) such other territories as may be acquired.

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RE:Indian Constitution 101 - Article 1
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 03:07 AM  Permalink
say JAI HIND

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Surprising!
by on Sep 15, 2007 02:49 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Its surprising how the tone of the article changed from something sensible to religious overtones!

Heck it shocked me even more when i sat down reading the messages!

No wonder everyone mocks India, heck for all i care go ahead and destroy the setu, whats the use when educated morons in this country go ahead and write such articles and more baffoons come up with such messages about Hindus and Muslims.



it is this very nature of us Indians that gives the politicians enuf reasons to play the Trump card of religion.



Why do we have to discuss about what muslims are and what are Hindus. Hell, its a discussion about the setu which is nothing but a natural wonder connecting the two lands of India and Sri Lanka.



Although there is a house that debates about the benefits of removing to the Navy and Merchant ships, there is a lobby that is right in arguing about it being a natural wonder.

Yet it is a shame that there is even a lobby that is discussing who raped Sita and how many wives did Prophet have!



Cmon people of India, you are educated citizens, be better than this and stop giving a shameful name to our country!



-Adnan Khalid

-for those who are wonderin, am a Muslim myself.

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Message for Anonymuncle
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:46 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

It does not matter what you say. If patriotism was so cheap and just verbal, we would be doing great. But that is far from the truth. I want our nation to progress. I am in favor of all illegal structures constructed that hinder our progress.



There is a middle ground to this problem. Best solution is to do a "Suez Canal".



Have a small section carved out, suffient for NAVY/Merchant ships to cross (Taking into consideration the Future demand).



There can be monuments (Private, No government Money) built on either side for the Hindus to practise their faith.



What say you ?

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RE:Message for Anonymuncle
by Vishnu Sharma on Sep 15, 2007 03:00 AM  Permalink
Take a look at this map
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_east_and_asia/sri_lanka_pol00.jpg
Expand on it Please !

You will see the thin strip of land ending at Dhanushkodi

Couple of miles before Dhanushkodi you will see that the land is thinnest.

Dig a Canal there !!!!
It will not be a major feat.
A Simple feat of Engineering which will take 2-3 years. This canal will be 0.6 miles wide.
Which is wide enough for ships to pass.

That is all there is to it.
You will be preserving RAM SETU and also accomplish the objective of cutting a passage from PALK STRAIT to the GULF OF MANNAR.



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RE:Message for Anonymuncle
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 03:03 AM  Permalink
There is a middle ground...I agree.



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RE:IMRAN PATEL SAY JAI HIND IS AGAINST INDIAN CONSTITUTION
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:50 AM  Permalink
Read the constitution...I can guarantee you that you have never read it.



Article 1 of the constitution says,



1. Name and territory of the Union.%u2014(1) India, that is Bharat, shall be a Union of States.

(2) The States and the territories thereof shall be as specified in the First Schedule.

(3) The territory of India shall comprise%u2014

(a) the territories of the States;

(b) the Union territories specified in the First Schedule; and

(c) such other territories as may be acquired.





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RE:IMRAN PATEL SAY JAI HIND IS AGAINST INDIAN CONSTITUTION
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:53 AM  Permalink
is our army against constitution??



IS ANYWHERE IN CONSTITUTION IT IS WRITTEN THAT U SHOULD NOT SAY "JAI HIND"



IF U R INDIAN THEN WHY U R NOT SAYING JAI HIND????

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RE:IMRAN PATEL SAY JAI HIND IS AGAINST INDIAN CONSTITUTION
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:58 AM  Permalink
Does it say anyplace that you SHOULD say "JAI HIND" ?

Does it say (LAW or Constitution) that an INDIAN needs to say "JAI HIND" ?



Free yourself from these shallow and symbolic patriotism. Pay your takes (Income and Sales)...Do not bribe cops...That will do much good to India that this "JAI HIND"

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RE:people who cant speak JAI HIND r??
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:50 AM  Permalink
People who do not follow the constitution are FALSE Citizens.

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RE:RE:people who cant speak JAI HIND r??
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:54 AM  Permalink
yes like you

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RE:people who cant speak JAI HIND r??
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:59 AM  Permalink
Read the constitution first.

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RE:RE:RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by Chatrapathy on Sep 15, 2007 02:35 AM  Permalink
Ok say Jai Bharat....



Bharat is also an anicient Hindu rulers mentioned in Mahabharat

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RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:38 AM  Permalink
I say Bharat because that is what the constitution of India says and that is what we MUST follow as citizens.



For your sake...JAI BHARAT.

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RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:41 AM  Permalink
NOT FOR MY SAKE

BUT for our country sake

for longliveness of INDIA



SPEAK Jai Hind



IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION

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RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:36 AM  Permalink
Jai Hind is a salutation most commonly used in India in speeches and communications pertaining to or referring to patriotism towards India (also known as Hind). It means roughly "Victory to India" or "Long live India". The Indian freedom fighter Dr.Champakaraman Pillai, introduced the salutation. It has since captured the imagination of Indians and has been immortalised by Subhash Chandra Bose as the battlecry of the Indian National Army.



Famous Freedom Fighter Sri Ramchandra Moreshwar Karkare of Gwalher Madhya Bharat, from inspiration of Netaji S.C.Bose, had written and published a Drama-(Natak)in Hindi, a very popular book, Jai Hind.



Currently army and paramilitary soldiers in India use this salutation to address the officers of superior rank.



IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION



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RE:RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:40 AM  Permalink
I have the right NOT to say JAI HIND. I want to use JAI BHARAT as my salutation.



I believe JAI HIND does not make sense as it is NOT in agreement with the Indian Constitution.

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RE:RE:RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:42 AM  Permalink
WHOLE OF INDIAN ARMY USE THIS EVEN I U CANT PAKI

IS OUR ARMY AGAINST CONSTITUTION??????????

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RE:Message for iluvtaj ...
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:51 AM  Permalink
Thats the best argument you have ?

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RE:ignore antiindian people
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:32 AM  Permalink
It sad that your patriotism is limited to "Jai Hind". Which itself is flawed as there is no country called "Hind"

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RE:ignore antiindian people
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 02:37 AM  Permalink
Jai Hind is a salutation most commonly used in India in speeches and communications pertaining to or referring to patriotism towards India (also known as Hind). It means roughly "Victory to India" or "Long live India". The Indian freedom fighter Dr.Champakaraman Pillai, introduced the salutation. It has since captured the imagination of Indians and has been immortalised by Subhash Chandra Bose as the battlecry of the Indian National Army.



Famous Freedom Fighter Sri Ramchandra Moreshwar Karkare of Gwalher Madhya Bharat, from inspiration of Netaji S.C.Bose, had written and published a Drama-(Natak)in Hindi, a very popular book, Jai Hind.



Currently army and paramilitary soldiers in India use this salutation to address the officers of superior rank.



IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH RELIGION



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RE:ignore antiindian people
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:42 AM  Permalink
Just for the record, Shubash Chandra Bose was brave but lacked strategic thinking...He wanted INDIA to align with the Japanese and Germany to fight against the allied forces. Remember what happened to Japan and Germany after WW-II.



Thank god India did NOT choose that route.

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RE:ignore antiindian people
by slicktiger on Sep 15, 2007 02:56 AM  Permalink
forget Subhashji for a sec. what is your strategy here? why can't you say Jai Hind ?

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RE:ignore antiindian people
by iluvtaj on Sep 15, 2007 03:06 AM  Permalink
yes slicktiger i am asking him why he cant say "JAI HIND"

Will you hesitate in saying JAI HIND??

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JAi Shri Ram
by Chatrapathy on Sep 15, 2007 02:29 AM  Permalink  | Hide replies

JAi Shri Ram



Hara Hara Mahadev

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RE:JAi Shri Ram
by mainst on Sep 15, 2007 04:32 AM  Permalink
kali sita ka gora ram

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RE:Hidden agenda
by imran patel on Sep 15, 2007 02:25 AM  Permalink
STOP making such claims. For if they turn out to be true, people will start worshipping you and you SHIT will become national Heritage.

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RE:Hidden agenda
by why smart on Sep 15, 2007 02:46 AM  Permalink
Your IP address will give clue about dawood Ibrahim , since you are his S**T

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