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RE:Garbage
by devarajan k on Sep 14, 2007 02:59 PM  Permalink
What is crap ? It is just a piece of news. If you feel something is not factual, just mention it.
Why are you injecting communal passion into it.

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A joke
by Vinay Joshi on Sep 14, 2007 02:41 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Musharraf's wife is harried to hear that Benazir Bhutto wants to see Mr. Musharraf without his uniform. hehehe

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RE:A joke
by rajesh on Sep 14, 2007 04:55 PM  Permalink
!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE:A joke
by Madan Kumar on Sep 14, 2007 10:52 PM  Permalink
LOL !

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good
by beessmilla on Sep 14, 2007 02:28 PM  Permalink 

good that people realised what it is

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another cr@p
by jxl ch on Sep 14, 2007 02:26 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

another piece of cr@p from B. Raman...i think he is suffering from hallucinations

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RE:another cr@p
by suhas natyan on Sep 14, 2007 04:03 PM  Permalink
may be u r even big.
READ the columns carefully, u need brain to write and brain to read.

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RE:another cr@p
by VG on Sep 14, 2007 03:24 PM  Permalink
Okay, remove the crap part and tell all of us what the truth is. You seem to be a very knowledgeable person!

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RE:another cr@p
by Ramachandra N on Sep 14, 2007 02:37 PM  Permalink
Yes. It is very obivious who is hallucinating.
You cannot even write your name properly

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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:00 PM  Permalink
I am expressing my views as a Layman...
ie. Looking at the context of Indian subcontinent only.
Four Stages of Islam in the sub continent of India,Pakistan,Bangladesh and now Nepal.
First Stage :INFILTRATION

      First migration wave to target non-Muslim society.
      Appeal for humanitarian tolerance from the target non-Muslim society.
      Characterized by professed tolerance of others and their beliefs.
      Attempts to portray Islam as a peaceful religion and Muslims as victims of misunderstanding and racism.
      Images of women and children used to portray Muslims.
      Establishment of mosques as power bases (today globally funded by Gulf countries oil revenue). (Mosques are       safe havens for Jihadi recruitment and subversive projects).
Muslim leaders promote large push for increased Muslim births in target non-Muslim society to increase       native Muslim population.
Misrepresentation of their intentions or aims as a cover up for clandestine operations.            


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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:02 PM  Permalink
Second Stage :CONSOLIDATION OF POWER
Establishment and recruitment of fundamentalist Jihadi cells.
Efforts to convert alienated segments of the population of target non-Muslim society to Islam.
Revisionist efforts to Islamize history.
Efforts to destroy all evidence of incriminating historical evidence and sources that reveal true character       of Islamism.
Intellectual Jihad to discredit non-Muslim culture.
Assault on cultural assumptions and icons of the non-Muslim world, such as democracy, law and science.
Increased dissemination of anti-western propaganda and anti-western psychological warfare.
Efforts to recruit allies who share similar goals (Communists, socialists, anti westerns activists,              anti-globalists, anarchists).
Alliances with the enemies of the Western society particularly anti capitalism leftists. "The enemy of my        enemy is my friend"


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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:04 PM  Permalink
if you want to explain with examples then just scan whole messages.

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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:20 PM  Permalink
good introduction to Islamic history is hard to find, and readers interested in the world's second-largest religion can rejoice at finding this one. Esposito, professor of religious studies at Georgetown University, has brought together a fine cadre of scholars for this anthology. Fifteen articles cover almost every subject that might interest a novice in the field: philosophy, science, art, architecture and histories of Islamic empires and civilizations. The art (100 b&w photos and 200 four-color illustrations) comes fast and thick, adding a great deal to the text. A particular virtue of the book is its extension of Islamic history into the present day, with articles focusing on colonialism, American and European Muslims and 20th-century Islamic revivalism. The book is not perfect, of course, and some of its faults are serious. Only one contribution is dedicated to religious belief and practice as such, and it is one of the weaker articles in the collection. Also, although Sufism is of paramount importance in Islamic history, there is no essay dedicated to the mystical branch of Islam, and the activities of Sufi orders form only a part of several of the historical articles. That said, this valuable and near-comprehensive tome would be a welcome addition to many libraries' shelves. (Nov.)
Copyright 1999 Reed Business Information, Inc.



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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 02:50 PM  Permalink
What a joke...
We still have the remnants of the Saraswati-Sindhu Civilization in a land swearing by an alien Arabic culture, a direct insult to our common ancestors who gave such wonderful urbane settlements such as Mohenjadharo, Harrappa,KotDiji,Lothal,etc. ,while the contemporary Bedouins of Arabia around the same time wouldn't have had a proper lingo to communicate with each other,maybe a little better than apes. I don't want to denigrate the apes comparing them with arab ,maybe bandicoots/tasmanian devils ?Or even worse. It is an insult that pakistanis have abandoned their rich cultural heritage to adopt a cruel,violent and barbaric arabic culture.


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RE:RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by lipsa mohanty on Sep 14, 2007 03:02 PM  Permalink
Its not that hard :

1996 : Madrid Bombings .... Muslims
1999 : Bombings............ Muslims
2001 : WTC................. Muslims
Terrorism in Kashmir....... Muslims
Terrorism all over the world... Muslims


So You see its not that difficult. Its bullshit what you are writting

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RE:RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:27 PM  Permalink
By J. A Magill (Sacramento, CA USA) -

Esposito produces an excellent readable history of Islam and its powerful impacts on Western Civilization. Espositio gathered a large number of scholars, each to produce a different chapter covering issues like math, philosophy, politics, etc. While no single volume could cover so vast a subject, the reader is left with what is almost certainly the best introduction to Islam.
While many people, unfortunately, have bought Karen Armstrong's Short History of Islam, this text is far superior in almost every way. Not only is it more thorough and better written, it also deals with Islam from within as well as from without. Islamic culture is examined not from the perspective of an outsider with rose colored glasses, but from several distinguished and Muslim and non-Muslim scholars with a firm background in the subject.

There is not doubt that no single volume could do all of Islamic history justice. However, this book with its rich photographs and strong prose, is probably as good an introduction as you could get under a single cover.



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RE:RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:35 PM  Permalink
How many videos from youtube do you want me to post and on what topic dude? ;)

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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by Ravi Thunoli on Sep 14, 2007 03:32 PM  Permalink
that shows what ur who is unfit to live in this civilised world

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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by Vinay Joshi on Sep 14, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink
No doubt Islamic scholars in the past have done good work. But please do take pains to mention that they did that after they had travelled to India and learned about philosophy, spirituality, mathematics (Advanced, including geometry), Irrigation, civilization, etc. ...

The scholars themselves acknowledge the fact, but most prefer to hide or muzzle this fact. And from Islamic scholars did the Europenas benefit.

Sadly now though none exist. Whoever do are terrorists and fundamentalists. It now makes sense to dismantle the Islamic religion and it would do well for muslims to convert to other religions. Because it looks like fundamentalists are winning everywhere. Very soon, we would have burqa clad ladies everywhere and destruction of everything good about life, if musilm fundamentalists are left unattended.

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RE:RE:RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:31 PM  Permalink
By Erica (toppear@nwi.net) -

A huge and absolutely beautiful book, so sensitively illustrated that you'll spend hours combing the pictures before you even dip into the text. The many essays detail out the rise of Islam and its accompanying culture, and it's the first general survey I've seen to cover sub-Saharan Africa as well as Eurasia, the Far East, and the Indian sub-continent. As good as the text is, though--and as fun---it's those pictures that make this book superb. From lone minnerets on the Xinjiang plains to the gorgeous mud-brick mosques of Djenné, the architectural dictates of Islam have produced some of the most striking and functional buildings our species has ever come up with. It gives me a great sense of communion with the Moslem world, whatever our ideological differences. The pictures in this Oxford History are sensitive and at times poignant...a close-up of a gorgeous tiled pillar, with the tile flaking off with age, revealing superb brickwork underneath comes to mind.
Those who like me know little of the Moslem world will appreciate the very readable text, with its slightly shaming details (the Moslems came up with the idea of a Hospital/dispensary as an adjunct to the mosque.....and their brilliant textiles were carried off by returning crusaders who had little appreciation for how difficult they were to make!)

As a scholarly text, "The Oxford History of Islam" may indeed have some holes---I wouldn't know. But as an introduction to the addictive

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RE:RE:RE:RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:32 PM  Permalink
As a scholarly text, "The Oxford History of Islam" may indeed have some holes---I wouldn't know. But as an introduction to the addictive beauties of Islamic art, and as an overview of the Moslem explosion throughout the world (including some Eurasian places you've never heard of!) I can't think of a better selection than this. You'll never want to part with it.

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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:03 PM  Permalink
STAGE THREE: OPEN WAR WITH TARGET NON-ISLAMIST SOCIETY'S LEADERSHIP AND
CULTURE

      Large-scale destruction of population, assassinations, killings, bombings.
      Intentional efforts to spread chaos in the target country to undermine its government and culture.
      Acts of barbarity and fierceness as a deliberate policy intended to foster submission of opponents.
      Open and covert efforts to cause economic collapse of the society.
      All opposition, no matter what kind, is challenged and either eradicated or silenced.
      Widespread ethnic cleansing with Islamic militias.


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RE:New Book on the Shelf!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:04 PM  Permalink
STAGE FOUR: ISLAMIC THEOCRACY
      All non-Islamic human rights cancelled.
      Freedom of speech and the press eradicated.
      All Religions other than Islam are forbidden and destroyed.
      Enslavement and genocide of non-Muslim population.
      Destruction of all evidence of non-Muslim culture, groups and symbols in country


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Someone Wanted to send a Msg!
by hakeem on Sep 14, 2007 02:16 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Whoever wanted to send a message has sent it and in a very powerful way!

Do not mess with us!

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RE:Someone Wanted to send a Msg!
by justlookhistory on Sep 14, 2007 03:13 PM  Permalink
hakeem have u gone through Sir Aurobindo work,Tagore work,Swami Vivekananda book,Dr.Abdul Kalam books.....They are the modern think thanks.Can u see the world in broader perspective..

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RE:RE:Someone Wanted to send a Msg!
by Ramachandra N on Sep 14, 2007 02:39 PM  Permalink
Yes, The message is traitors are everywhere. Agreed Hakeem?

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RE:Someone Wanted to send a Msg!
by vijay sharma on Sep 14, 2007 05:22 PM  Permalink
yes i totally agree with you Hakeem......the message was indeed very powerful.....it only meant that we "one day we will destroy ourself, please don't help us...........so don't mess with us...... we are weak and illitrate....."

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RE:Enjoy what you get as war booty
by speekingthetruth on Sep 14, 2007 05:33 PM  Permalink
Why are Bothered about why Lord Shiv cut of His sons head? If your are so intrested Pray to him may with his grace you will get the Knowledge or just search the web.

We are not hear to Preach our Religion Like you intend to withour any one remotly keen doing any thing with Islam and its Evil Preachings

If you what to preach your religion, Please look for another foram!
Fearing your own god is no way to lead a life my friend , One with true Respect and Devotion will you be able to connect with your god not with Fear!
Fear will not forgive you!
We will fear no Alla and his evil terrorists since we know he uses fear to propergate his religion and subdue his people!


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RE:Enjoy what you get as war booty
by vijay sharma on Sep 14, 2007 05:27 PM  Permalink
Allah is always Mericiful and He's great.....no doubt for that..........but atleast try to follow him and follow his sayings...... but why follow religious fanatics/bigots.........these people misinterpret what GOD says........... if u still can't understand that all religions teaches same......then we can;'t do anything for that..............

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RE:Enjoy what you get as war booty
by speekingthetruth on Sep 14, 2007 05:40 PM  Permalink
Yes the Terrorist is All-Forgiving and All-Mercifull as long as you lick his ass!!

As a bonus you can keep the loot from the war and enjoy it at your leasure ie when your are not going for a war!

So moral of the story is you can do any crazy thing on earth possible like War, Terrisom, killing children and women, Convertion to Islam, Marrying 20 women and having 100 kids,

As long as alla is cool about it you guys are sage! WROONG.. !! Grow up dude! you are castrated!

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Q-A
by shekhar@asthana.com on Sep 14, 2007 02:10 PM  Permalink  | Hide replies

Q: How will it look like if Musharraf blows himself up on a dinner with Bush......

A: A great Blow Job

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RE:RE:Q-A
by ravikiran on Sep 14, 2007 06:58 PM  Permalink
There will be a bush fire

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RE:Q-A
by jebin p on Sep 14, 2007 02:27 PM  Permalink
May be it will happen if bush ask Musharraf to step down

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RE:Q-A
by ludmilla on Sep 14, 2007 02:23 PM  Permalink
great joke indeed!

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