HONG KONG, China (CNN) -- The global "war on terror" can't be won if people are living in "desperate" conditions, Archbishop Desmond Tutu told CNN.
Archbishop Desmond Tutu says "war on terror" will be thwarted by poverty, disease and ignorance.
"You can never win a war against terror as long as there are conditions in the world that make people desperate -- poverty, disease, ignorance, et cetera," the Nobel laureate said.
Tutu is in Hong Kong, where he is due to give a lecture on conflict resolution, reconciliation and forgiveness.
He said the disparity between the rich and poor in parts of the world causes instability and insecurity, but added that he was hopeful the relationship between the two was becoming clear.
"I think people are beginning to realize that you can't have pockets of prosperity in one part of the world and huge deserts of poverty and deprivation and think that you can have a stable and secure world," he said.
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by Danial Fakih on Sep 18, 2007 11:11 AM Permalink
Vargheese, U guys remain stupid & things will go worsen. OK as u say I Condemn Terrorist,kill him when u see any muslim on the road coz he believed to be a terrorist. But is it going to change the mind set of the terrorist ?Then will these so called terrorist will hv hope to live,will hv food to eat,will hv education to read & understand Quran & Gita..Abay unko is zindagee say kuch attraction to ho na chahiyee..Aur eik baat Yeh Muslim tumharay Achooton ke trha nahee hain kee chup chap baith jayea gain..U will hv more Dawood Ibrahim to handle..Abay Ghaday baray akharoo main likh ya chotain main...
When a muslim was arrested both the family members of the accused and the political secularists including Media start saying `Innocents are arrested' When crores of muslims are there why police arrest those suspects only, if there is no priliminary evidence or discloser by the fellow terrorists/accused.
In india who are blasting bombs. are they coming from Pak/Bangla. Most of the terrorists are Indian Muslims only. even for the Pak/Bangla terrorists local muslims only are sheltering and accomodating.
RE:arrests of Muslims for terrorism
by Danial Fakih on Sep 17, 2007 10:50 AM Permalink
Raja ,Think man than write, If police can catch all crores.... as muslim believe, they will catch all..there is no iota of doubt they r catching the innocent only ..coz they don't hv guts to catch the real..but its not gonna help..coz those who r really culrit will make another blast to happen..People hv to think out of there biases.
RE:arrests of Muslims for terrorism
by Saif khan on Sep 20, 2007 03:57 PM Permalink
Hi Raja Gopal, if the indian muslims are terrorist then how u can move freely between them, And Indian police of no use, they always arrest innocent muslim guys, and last thing the india is safe due to the patriotic muslim, if they can destroy world trade or pentagon then india is nothing for them, they can destroy india in a day if indian muslim cooperate them........... so plz dont't talk rubbish here...... In hydearbad only 42 people are dead while in guzarat more then 42000 people are dead and r burnt alive... so who r the terrorist??? go n arrest the shiv sena n bajrang dal terrorist first.
RE:arrests of Muslims for terrorism
by on Sep 20, 2007 08:25 PM Permalink
It is fact that most of the muslims are not anti india but only few of them are into this anti india, anti-hindu ideology. But because of the closeted community ideology that it harps thruout, the islam as community is not upcoming though there was lot of development. When we have a government run schools/ why some of them rush to madaraasaas. I also has muslim friends who are educated and in career but they dont support terrorism but those uneducated / unemployed / majahab pro muslims are taking to this war path. Though it is good to say your religion is great you cant say other religious people cant live on earth... invasive attitude being in india bred and paid by majority tax payers is not right. Muslims as terrorists should be killed/ eradicated from the very place of earth then alone humanity can survive and you as a muslim shouldnt worry about this unless you are terrorist.
It almost seems like the police have no clue as to who did these blasts and are interrogating everybody at will. But I also think the police react in extremes, before the blasts they should maintained a moderate monitoring of the muslim community for extremsists, they didnt do that. Now that the blasts have happened they are on the other end of the spectrum trying to take a tough stand to find clues and the culprits.
Here is this responsible young man studying hard to make something of his life and helping sick people. Terrorist throw bombs and run away and innocent people have to suffer. That is why it is very important for moderate muslims to stand up aginst such people to protect their own also.
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RE:Check this wat people say
by ann on Sep 16, 2007 08:26 AM Permalink
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RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sameer on Sep 16, 2007 08:40 AM Permalink
subahanallah,kudos well done bro ,u proved sau sunaar kee ek lohar kee by shutting up all these bigots.
RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 03:55 PM Permalink
contiiiiiiiiiii 2. Not all 'fundamentalists' are the same
One cannot paint all fundamentalists with the same brush. One cannot categorize all fundamentalists as either good or bad. Such a categorization of any fundamentalist will depend upon the field or activity in which he is a fundamentalist. A fundamentalist robber or thief causes harm to society and is therefore undesirable. A fundamentalist doctor, on the other hand, benefits society and earns much respect.
3. I am proud to be a Muslim fundamentalist
I am a fundamentalist Muslim who, by the grace of Allah, knows, follows and strives to practise the fundamentals of Islam. A true Muslim does not shy away from being a fundamentalist. I am proud to be a fundamentalist Muslim because, I know that the fundamentals of Islam are beneficial to humanity and the whole world. There is not a single fundamental of Islam that causes harm or is against the interests of the human race as a whole. Many people harbour misconceptions about Islam and consider several teachings of Islam to be unfair or improper. This is due to insufficient and incorrect knowledge of Islam. If one critically analyzes the teachings of Islam with an open mind, one cannot escape the fact that Islam is full of benefits both at the individual and collective levels.
RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 03:56 PM Permalink
contttttttt According to Webster's dictionary 'fundamentalism' was a movement in American Protestanism that arose in the earlier part of the 20th century. It was a reaction to modernism, and stressed the infallibility of the Bible, not only in matters of faith and morals but also as a literal historical record. It stressed on belief in the Bible as the literal word of God. Thus fundamentalism was a word initially used for a group of Christians who believed that the Bible was the verbatim word of God without any errors and mistakes. According to the Oxford dictionary 'fundamentalism' means 'strict maintenance of ancient or fundamental doctrines of any religion, especially Islam'. Today the moment a person uses the word fundamentalist he thinks of a Muslim who is a terrorist. 5. Every Muslim should be a terrorist Every Muslim should be a terrorist. A terrorist is a person who causes terror. The moment a robber sees a policeman he is terrified. A policeman is a terrorist for the robber. Similarly every Muslim should be a terrorist for the antisocial elements of society, such as thieves, dacoits and rapists. Whenever such an anti-social element sees a Muslim, he should be terrified. It is true that the word 'terrorist' is generally used for a person who causes terror among the common people. But a true Muslim should only be a terrorist to selective people i.e. anti- social elements, and not to the common innocent people. In fact a Muslim should be
RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
contiiii But a true Muslim should only be a terrorist to selective people i.e. anti- social elements, and not to the common innocent people. In fact a Muslim should be a source of peace for innocent people.
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by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
contttiiiiii 6. Different labels given to the same individual for the same action, i.e. 'terrorist' and 'patriot' Before India achieved independence from British rule, some freedom fighters of India who did not subscribe to non-violence were labeled as terrorists by the British government. The same individuals have been lauded by Indians for the same activities and hailed as 'patriots'. Thus two different labels have been given to the same people for the same set of actions. One is calling him a terrorist while the other is calling him a patriot. Those who believed that Britain had a right to rule over India called these people terrorists, while those who were of the view that Britain had no right to rule India called them patriots and freedom fighters. It is therefore important that before a person is judged, he is given a fair hearing. Both sides of the argument should be heard, the situation should be analyzed, and the reason and the intention of the person should be taken into account, and then the person can be judged accordingly.
RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
contiiii WAS ISLAM SPREAD BY THE SWORD? Question: How can Islam be called the religion of peace when it was spread by the sword?
Answer: It is a common complaint among some non-Muslims that Islam would not have millions of adherents all over the world, if it had not been spread by the use of force. The following points will make it clear, that far from being spread by the sword, it was the inherent force of truth, reason and logic that was responsible for the rapid spread of Islam.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
contiii 7. Islam means peace
Islam is derived from the word 'salaam' which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world. Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:11 PM Permalink
contiii 8. East Coast of Africa . Similarly, Islam has spread rapidly on the East Coast of Africa . One may again ask, if Islam was spread by the sword, 'Which Muslim army went to the East Coast of Africa ?' 9. Thomas Carlyle. The famous historian, Thomas Carlyle, in his book 'Heroes and Hero worship', refers to this misconception about the spread of Islam: 'The sword indeed, but where will you get your sword? Every new opinion, at its starting is precisely in a minority of one. In one man's head alone. There it dwells as yet. One man alone of the whole world believes it, there is one man against all men. That he takes a sword and try to propagate with that, will do little for him. You must get your sword! On the whole, a thing will propagate itself as it can.'
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
contiii 1. Islam means peace. Islam comes from the root word 'salaam', which means peace. It also means submitting one's will to Allah (swt) . Thus Islam is a religion of peace, which is acquired by submitting one's will to the will of the Supreme Creator, Allah (swt). 2. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace.
Each and every human being in this world is not in favour of maintaining peace and harmony. There are many, who would disrupt it for their own vested interests. Sometimes force has to be used to maintain peace. It is precisely for this reason that we have the police who use force against criminals and anti-social elements to maintain peace in the country. Islam promotes peace. At the same time, Islam exhorts it followers to fight where there is oppression. The fight against oppression may, at times, require the use of force. In Islam force can only be used to promote peace and justice.
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by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:07 PM Permalink
contii 3. Opinion of historian De Lacy O'Leary.
The best reply to the misconception that Islam was spread by the sword is given by the noted historian De Lacy O'Leary in the book 'Islam at the cross road' (Page 8):
'History makes it clear however, that the legend of fanatical Muslims sweeping through the world and forcing Islam at the point of the sword upon conquered races is one of the most fantastically absurd myth that historians have ever repeated.'
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
contiii 7. Islam means peace
Islam is derived from the word 'salaam' which means peace. It is a religion of peace whose fundamentals teach its followers to maintain and promote peace throughout the world. Thus every Muslim should be a fundamentalist i.e. he should follow the fundamentals of the Religion of Peace: Islam. He should be a terrorist only towards the antisocial elements in order to promote peace and justice in the society.
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
6. More than 80% non-Muslims in India . The Muslims ruled India for about a thousand years. If they wanted, they had the power of converting each and every non- Muslim of India to Islam. Today more than 80% of the population of India are non-Muslims. All these non-Muslim Indians are bearing witness today that Islam was not spread by the sword. 7. Indonesia and Malaysia . Indonesia is a country that has the maximum number of Muslims in the world. The majority of people in Malaysia are Muslims. May one ask, 'Which Muslim army went to Indonesia and Malaysia ?'
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:12 PM Permalink
contiii 10. No compulsion in religion. With which sword was Islam spread? Even if Muslims had it they could not use it to spread Islam because the Qur'an says in the following verse: 'Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from error' [Al-Qur'an 2:256] 11. Sword of the Intellect. It is the sword of intellect. The sword that conquers the hearts and minds of people. The Qur'an says in Surah Nahl, chapter 16 verse 125: 'Invite (all) to the way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious.' [Al-Qur'an 16:125]
RE:RE:RE:RE:RE:muslim is terorist by zakir naik
by sabi haq on Sep 15, 2007 04:08 PM Permalink
contiii 4. Muslims ruled Spain for 800 years. Muslims ruled Spain for about 800 years. The Muslims in Spain never used the sword to force the people to convert. Later the Christian Crusaders came to Spain and wiped out the Muslims. There was not a single Muslim in Spain who could openly give the adhan, that is the call for prayers. 5. 14 million Arabs are Coptic Christians.
Muslims were the lords of Arabia for 1400 years. For a few years the British ruled, and for a few years the French ruled. Overall, the Muslims ruled Arabia for 1400 years. Yet today, there are 14 million Arabs who are Coptic Christians i.e. Christians since generations. If the Muslims had used the sword there would not have been a single Arab who would have remained a Christian.
