To our Motherland has to be protected from Leftists and pseudo secularists and assert oour Identity - NAME OF INDIA SHOULD BE CHANGED TO OUR ORIGINAL NAME 'BHARAT' -
Tell me people - What if the government dares to make the same comments on ALLAH (which can also be a possibility, and so is the case with any other Mythological leader)? Is this fair? Then why are we taking the shit?
What is required for progress should be done. But not this way where the general public is taken for granted.
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by Abhishek Jain on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
If Allah was a god (means a human being) where is his photo? Why do are you afraid of showing his photo to the world? Or is it just your imagination that he exists?
I see you've asked this question so many times, looks like you are thirsting for knowledge. Well, the reason is that though Ram was God Vishnu incarnate, his role was to live like a human. Hence he is called "Purushottam". And like a true human, he used whatever resources was available. He had the help of his friends - the Vanars - and he didn't have the tools to build a boat or a ship. Since stones were abundantly available, the vanar sena built a bridge.
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by secret secret on Sep 13, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
If Allah is God, why doesn't he use his power to kill all evil-doers and eliminate poverty? Why does he leave it to humans?
Take it easy, dude. There are logical points against any god of any religion. God doesn't stand to logic. Most people do not have the guts to question God's functioning and the rest do not get the answers anyway.
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by pradeep ja on Sep 13, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
This shows u r third rate mentality.. u r questioning the identity first u question u r own...first find out u r own loop holes then try to comment on other ok...Dont try to use such light words on it...
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by Raghavendra Raichur on Sep 13, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
Hi Mohammed, To understand that learn or listen Ramayana. It is not all the Vanaras have put the stone to make the bridge, but it two brothers who had boon that whatever they put in water that will float. So that two Vanara brother's put the stone to make the bridge. Others broght the stones.
Why Ram not made bridge ? It is similar like allah is god for u & who does n't have the shape. If ur god doesn't have shape(physical) & how do you have it. One more thing if God only does everything why it is use of others ? If u ans for the following question will give whether Ram is god or not.
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by raman thakur on Sep 13, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
Sir, wanted to give you a befitting reply to this comment. Anyhow Ramadan Kareem to you ( in case you noticed there is Ram in it too. But you would not understand for one who does not have respect for others will never be able to understand.
RE:Was Ram a God ?
by kathiresan murugavel on Sep 13, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Dear Sir, He was God and he lived as a human, even Jesus Christ is a God but he was put to death, ok
Jai Sriram ! A great victory indeed ! But there is need for introspection . Each and every religion in the world has got its myths, legends and irrational stories or events believed by followers. Unless this belief hurts others it should not be challenged or hurt . Our political parties would do well to keep this in mind . Many things , otherwise true, can not be proved in a science laboratory . Unless a great man or superman called Ramchandra had really existed in remote antiquiry a five thousand yearold legend or tradition could not have lived on for more than five thousand years since the days of the Rig Veda. It is also well known that ninety percent of Indian history is still unknown . I congratulae Sonia Gandhi for intervening in the matter so promptly and deciding to have the scndalous affidavit withdrawn. The problem in such issues is compounded by the followers of 'Stalin school of falsification and forgery' in history writing and interpreting . Thanks , Madam Gandhi !
This shows the inaptitude of the UPA Government and legality safeguarded and looked after by Mr H.R.Bhardwaj Union Law Minister. Hindus have been deprived of their Lord Rama worshiped in every heart and mandir. Lord Rama save us from them.
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by sumit gupta on Sep 13, 2007 04:03 PM Permalink
because here not only rama to cross the ocean but also for entire sena to cross the ocean, this is known by every hindu,& ithink you have to go through it, if you want to comment on this post
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by kshama srikrishna on Sep 13, 2007 04:22 PM Permalink
Assuming that you have asked an honest question , i am making an attempt to clear your doubt. Rama, being a god did not require any support to get his work done. But, in this avatar he took a vow that he would be human in all ways and would stick to dharma, satya etc. He could have killed Ravana from indian shores but he did not choose to do so. Apart from various other objectives of HIS avatar he also wanted to show mankind how to lead a life on the right path.Devas wanted to contribute and help rama in his noble endevour to anhilate evil. They were born as vanaras. So he took their help. Now regarding the bridge , there were several instances to prove the requirement of the bridge inorder to show many important lessons which occured during the building process, like- destroying sagar raj's ego, demonstrating nala's skills, demonstrating the power of Rama Nam, Clearing Hanuman's doubt, Squirel's contribution, The power of faith so on so forth...
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by sami on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
Dear Brother Mohamed - I urge you to refrain from making such statements , faith requires no proof & no answers , there are many things in islam too , for which we might have no answers-but we beleive in them , same goes for our hindu brothers , lets respect each other religious sentiments.
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by on Sep 13, 2007 04:09 PM Permalink
yes exactly right said mr mohammed riyaz..if same theory goes why did allah need some followers to preach n expand holy religion..he can do if by himself..afterall he is a god.
RE:RE:Why bridge was built ?
by HImmat Negi on Sep 13, 2007 04:31 PM Permalink
Mohmad was busy making childrens, marrying his own grand daughter. How could he had time to preach himself. He had many brainless to this job
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by Rajesh Verma on Sep 13, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
Of Course he was god But He did not do anywork in form of God.And a person can't fight with thousands of soldiers alone.So,due to this reason he had taken help of monkeys. You are a sick person & your knowledge is limited about that so you are saying as so. We don't think to laugh any religion but you does. It is your mental sickness.
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by Analyst on Sep 13, 2007 04:06 PM Permalink
I dont think you are matured enough or learned enough to listen my answer.. but would be for many like you. Lord Rama's personality was so rich and enlightened that even monkey's can see and follow him. If you really know, he has gone far beyond building ships, he conceptualised aeroplane (udan khatola). And my question would be ... who you call god and why ?
RE:Why bridge was built ?
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
if Mohammad was God, y did he travel by foot - y did he not order a Merc -- stay away from this debate -- go fight christans
Man has made god, not the other way round. Religion is also man made. It is strange that people are fighting like this. All religions, Hinduism, Islam, Christainity are just based on fantastic stories, serpents talking, virgins giving birth, flying chariots, monkeys flying and Man-written so called holy books. All religions have their foundation and basis from these books of fables(Koran, bible and Gita). Before you all start fighting, think for a moment...What is more probable? That religion and God really does not exist...Or whether you choose to follow a fantastic book written 1000's of years ago. I am an atheist, don't believe in your Ram, Christ or Allah and yet I am not struck down by lightning(LOL), I am infact very successful. If God existed would he not punish me? The very fact that human beings believe that god can be happy, be pleased, will get annoyed and punish, tests human beings..itself shows that this god is very incompetent, like a child whining for attention! Please follow the path of true science NOT MAGICAL STORIES
RE:Religion
by venkat kumar on Sep 13, 2007 04:20 PM Permalink
If god is not there, how the Enire Universe has been created. How the planets are rotating without hitting each other. How perfectly the nature has variety of colours, shapes etc. How our own Body which has thousands of scientific priciples designed. Till now as far as I understand the MAN (SCIENTISTS) HAS ONLY UNDERSTOOD LESS THAN 1% OF THE SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES OF NATURE AND CREATION. Then how can it be a non existence of Some Super Power which has created everything controlling them properly.I agree that all the gods different faiths are one and the same and reach the same final destination of realising one-self internaly, seeing the god in everyone (including animals), everywhere and helping the mankind. When it comes to the question of hurting the sentiments of hindus such as destroying the Ram sethu, why u people are now certainly act Smart and imposing the non-existence of god. WHAT R U GOING TO LOOSE IF U CHOOSE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT WHCIH WILL NOT DISTURB RAM SETHU. WE R NOT AGAINST SETHU CANAL PROJECT, BUT ALIGNMENT CHOSEN WHICH WILL DESTROY THE RAM SETHU, WHICH IS ATTACHED WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF CRORES OF PEOPLE. RESPECT THE SENTIMENTS PEOPLE FIRST THEN LET US TALK ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD, WHICH IN MY OPINION WHICH HAS TO BE REALISED (LIKE IN ANBE SHIVAM MOVIE). ONLY SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM IS CHOSING THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT THEREY PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED AND BENEFIT THE PEOPLE AS CLAIMED BY POLITICIANS AS WELL AS WITHOUT HURTING THE SENTIMENTS OF HINDUS.
RE:Religion
by venkat kumar on Sep 13, 2007 04:19 PM Permalink
If god is not there, how the Enire Universe has been created. How the planets are rotating without hitting each other. How perfectly the nature has variety of colours, shapes etc. How our own Body which has thousands of scientific priciples designed. Till now as far as I understand the MAN (SCIENTISTS) HAS ONLY UNDERSTOOD LESS THAN 1% OF THE SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES OF NATURE AND CREATION. Then how can it be a non existence of Some Super Power which has created everything controlling them properly.I agree that all the gods different faiths are one and the same and reach the same final destination of realising one-self internaly, seeing the god in everyone (including animals), everywhere and helping the mankind. When it comes to the question of hurting the sentiments of hindus such as destroying the Ram sethu, why u people are now certainly act Smart and imposing the non-existence of god. WHAT R U GOING TO LOOSE IF U CHOOSE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT WHCIH WILL NOT DISTURB RAM SETHU. WE R NOT AGAINST SETHU CANAL PROJECT, BUT ALIGNMENT CHOSEN WHICH WILL DESTROY THE RAM SETHU, WHICH IS ATTACHED WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF CRORES OF PEOPLE. RESPECT THE SENTIMENTS PEOPLE FIRST THEN LET US TALK ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD, WHICH IN MY OPINION WHICH HAS TO BE REALISED (LIKE IN ANBE SHIVAM MOVIE). ONLY SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM IS CHOSING THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT THEREY PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED AND BENEFIT THE PEOPLE AS CLAIMED BY POLITICIANS AS WELL AS WITHOUT HURTING THE SENTIMENTS OF HINDUS.
RE:Religion
by venkat kumar on Sep 13, 2007 04:32 PM Permalink
If god is not there, how the Enire Universe has been created. How the planets are rotating without hitting each other. How perfectly the nature has variety of colours, shapes etc. How our own Body which has thousands of scientific priciples designed. Till now as far as I understand the MAN (SCIENTISTS) HAS ONLY UNDERSTOOD LESS THAN 1% OF THE SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLES OF NATURE AND CREATION. Then how can it be a non existence of Some Super Power which has created everything controlling them properly.I agree that all the gods different faiths are one and the same and reach the same final destination of realising one-self internaly, seeing the god in everyone (including animals), everywhere and helping the mankind. When it comes to the question of hurting the sentiments of hindus such as destroying the Ram sethu, why u people are now certainly act Smart and imposing the non-existence of god. WHAT R U GOING TO LOOSE IF U CHOOSE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT WHCIH WILL NOT DISTURB RAM SETHU. WE R NOT AGAINST SETHU CANAL PROJECT, BUT ALIGNMENT CHOSEN WHICH WILL DESTROY THE RAM SETHU, WHICH IS ATTACHED WITH THE SENTIMENTS OF CRORES OF PEOPLE. RESPECT THE SENTIMENTS PEOPLE FIRST THEN LET US TALK ABOUT THE EXISTENCE OF GOD, WHICH IN MY OPINION WHICH HAS TO BE REALISED (LIKE IN ANBE SHIVAM MOVIE). ONLY SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM IS CHOSING THE ALTERNATE ALIGNMENT THEREY PROJECT WILL BE COMPLETED AND BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE AS CLAIMED BY POLITICIANS AS WELL AS WITHOUT HURTING THE SENTIMENTS OF HINDUS.
RE:RE:Religion
by Imran on Sep 13, 2007 05:01 PM Permalink
Sir the argument by design to prove god is useless. If u are asking who created this big universe, I will ask you who created god. Can u answer
RE:Religion
by Imran on Sep 13, 2007 04:13 PM Permalink
Sir I agree with u in everything u said. Looks like we are the only 2 guys with sense on this forum. Believe me we have reached a higher level of intelligence when we shed religion and its stupid beliefs. To be thoroughly religious, one must, I believe, be sorely disappointed. One's faith in God increases as one's faith in the world decreases. The happier the man, the farther he is from God. GEORGE JEAN NATHAN
RE:Religion
by ravikiran on Sep 13, 2007 04:14 PM Permalink
Has your true science understood the entire creation. In Hinduism god is not who punishes when he is not praised. You do not even understand the tip of the iceberg of Hindu philosopy.No where it says you will be struck by lightning . You dumb head. I am also a science student and I know how many of the great theories are based on assumptions.Science has only uncovered a tiny fraction of the material world. Be happy in your ignorace
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by avinash sharma on Sep 13, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
at least ha was not a child rapist like mohammed, who raped 9 year old ayesha.
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by Raghavendra Raichur on Sep 13, 2007 04:40 PM Permalink
What a stupid question. It is like why u fool ppl cut the Bakri Bloddy violence(terrorists) ppl ?
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by sunil verma on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
you half minded fellow...as MOHAMMAD was prophet..then y did he used to run away from the mecca to madina..he might have saved lot of people no from mass destructon...LORD RAM has acted according to the people choice...like a true king who can defeat the RAVANA..n kept the ancient strategy...poor man understand..
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
if Mohammad was God, y did he travel by foot - y did he not order a Merc -- stay away from this debate -- go fight christans and save ur religion
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by rangdebasanti on Sep 13, 2007 04:04 PM Permalink
if he would have taken help of men, then some one would have detracted him like vibhishana. it was a very choice to have monkeys, who have more power, agility and will not question everything.
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by Seetharam on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
Hello riyaz u don't know about the history of these Epics, why u will drop Ur leg into these issues, please take care about yourself......
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by Ram Prasad on Sep 13, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
OK, If Allah is god, why did he put a rule for Men to have 4 wives, which has became a escapade for many to just marry & talaq????
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by Vinay Mhatre on Sep 13, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
Bola ek aur bola ,,,Tum logon ka dimag khali rehta hain... ANPAD JAAHIL LOG SAALE.
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by deepak deep on Sep 13, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Are Riyaz Mamu,
Am wondering how did one monkey go since those days.Now I found it, it has named itself M.Riyaz. Were u building ships those days or an engineer?, now ask ur allah why did he who is Sri Ram.
RE:RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by avinash sharma on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
what is your full name VS. why are u hiding? is there something to be ashamed of?
RE:Why bridge ? why not ship ?
by Sandip Dhara on Sep 13, 2007 04:02 PM Permalink
Thank you for your advice. Why don't you educate yourselves rather terroizing others for your better life? Why don't you write an mathematical equation of your Islamic faith for rationalizing your statements. Please don't question on someone's faith. Do your job and be a nice Indian.
RE:RE:RE:Ram never existed.
by PURUSHOTTAM KULKARNI on Sep 13, 2007 04:10 PM Permalink
If it is january 10 then how it can be chaitra masa?It has to be margashirsha only.Chaitra normally comes in March-april only. -P.D.KULKARNI
RE:Ram never existed.
by s h on Sep 13, 2007 04:18 PM Permalink
Hello V(very) S (sick) If you cannot beleive what you cannot see, how should i beleive that you have intelligence in your brain? Why dont you put it on table take a photograph of it and post it on Rediff Board. Where it is written in Koran that all modern convinient equipemnts which you people use to , not existing at time of Maha-mad,are permissible in islam. But why not electronic individual alaram for Azan? Why loud speakers only ? There lacs of VS - very sick people like you ? Stupid for sake of being naturally stupid
RE:Ram never existed.
by venkat kumar on Sep 13, 2007 04:26 PM Permalink
VERY VERY GOOD ANALYSIS. ALSO IT IS A PRACTICE OF MOST OF THE HINDUS TO KEEP THE JATHAKA OF LORD RAMA IN THE POOJA ROOM AND WORSHIP. EVEN MOST OF THE HUMAN BEINGS DON'T KNOW EVEN THE JATHAKA OF THEMSELVES.
RE:Ram never existed.
by nitin JAIN on Sep 13, 2007 03:58 PM Permalink
hey adam and eve theory was proved wrong .. so is it all christians themselves are clueless what to do and so they are questioning other religions
RE:Ram never existed.
by Muralidhar on Sep 13, 2007 04:01 PM Permalink
Ram existed in Treta Yuga. http://www.stephen-knapp.com/timings_of_the_four_yugas.htm
RE:Ram never existed.
by rangdebasanti on Sep 13, 2007 04:00 PM Permalink
how sure you are that whom you are calling as your father is actually your father? that's a trust; isn't it? don't try to evaluate a trust or belief; you may lose the meaning of living.
RE:Ram never existed.
by Vinay Mhatre on Sep 13, 2007 03:59 PM Permalink
First Let your mother prove that you have only one father ??? She will Also find it very difficult...
RE:Ram never existed.
by pradeep ja on Sep 13, 2007 04:16 PM Permalink
Kithne nichapan dikhtha hai tere is message mein ... question u r self whether jesus or Allah exsisted .. ther are so many documents to support .. but u people have only bible and khoran..did u saw the existance of jesus and allah ... we have faith in him and we should belive in him ... dont try to be too smart...
